Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #11

[Indianagirl]

I'm having trouble understanding why some believe Morgan never made it to the concert? Both LE and the Harringtons' know more than we do. Both have stated Morgan made it to the concert. Multiple witnesses have stated seeing her there. I understand eye witness isn't 100% and some make honest mistakes. However, I doubt all of these witnesses that claim to have seen Morgan were mistaken. LE very well could have proof positive evidence (other than eye witness accounts) that she was infact at the concert that we don't know about. In any event, all involved in the investigation are saying she was at the concert, so why is that so hard to believe?

Is it because, so far, the only thing placing Morgan at the concert is eye witness accounts? I'm just trying to understand the doubts. TIA.

 

[italianangel2411]

Even more spooky , nobody has definately said she was in the building...
I am thinking this:

She and her friends took that route near the farm where she was later found dead.
They perhaps had smokes and drinks.
Went up to that location followed by another car full of males.
Perhaps feeling safe MH decided to stay and party while her friends went along to the concert.
When she did not show later they panicked and all this became the mystery it is today..
again...
I have gut feeling she never made it to the concert.
The people she accepted the ride with never intended to get her there...
foul play indeed.

So let's say there was a meeting in this area?
They were supposed to hang out and party.
It got out of hand and this is the end resault..
what does that theory seem to you?

Till I read or see proof she was at the concert to begin with I am saying she never made it to the place..
she and her friends met males and partied here she did not go to the concert I bet..
what driving route did the bunch of them take anyway?
has LE questioned all of them about time they left?
Approximate time of arrival to the concert?

Why didn't all of them go to the bathroom at once like all friends do in a group?And wait for everyone?

F I S H Y story

not that they have done anything wrong by not waiting for her, but nonetheless, MH is dead and they are alive because they stuck together as a group...:rose:

I agree with you about the bathroom and friends thing. I also can understand your theory but at the same time..we have witnesses placing her at the concert and her own family went to the bridge to say goodbye to her and that was her last sighting there. I don't think her family would say goodbye at the bridge if they felt she was never there. I think you have a great theory though and I don't think she would miss the concert she was so excited about going to see.

 

[Waddles]

See that "X" of trees located on the far left margin in that map you linked? Morgan's body was found to the left of that location, off the map, and closer to the Blandemar Estates.

Oh I see now thanks p7byrd!
I had viewed a map from another site with the wrong spot of where her body was found -it was very very close to that but on the other side of the trees

 

[italianangel2411]

I believe her parents know a lot more than we do and from what they said yesterday, it seems she was killed that night. Even mentioning the possibility that she died before the concert was over doesn't indicate hypothermia to me at all. MOO

I agree with you!! her parents they thought she was dead before the concert was over because they can tell she has been there for a long, long time.

 

[rickh]

hope LE is focusing on people around MH possible they already have good suspect but need to physically tie person to her.I hope and pray thats so. justice for MH.

 

[italianangel2411]

I'd actually be quite shocked if she hadn't been sexually assaulted, as I can't think of any other reason for someone to kill her and dump her in that field. If the camera hasn't been found, I also have a feeling his picture may have been on the camera or as you said, possibly he photographed his crime. MOO

Thanks. I completely agree with you that she was more than likely sexuall assaulted. How terrible to to end your life in such a way.

 

[italianangel2411]

AFAIK, a phone without a battery will not ping. Interesting about pics staying on a camera though.

purposely taking a battery out of a cell phone in order to make sure it doesn't ping to be located equals pre-meditation!

 

[italianangel2411]

respectfully snipped:


and they're keeping it quiet as to not let the perp know what they have on him! I hope they have that camera!

although i think if they had the camera..they would already be a arrest if the perp took pictures of the crime or if he was on the camera and they had the camera
I do not think they will find the camera until they find the perp bc i think the perp is so sick that he is keeping the camera to remember what he did to her and i hope they find it when they find this perp

 

[Indianagirl]

purposely taking a battery out of a cell phone in order to make sure it doesn't ping to be located equals pre-meditation!

If that were the case, why not just get rid of the whole phone? Why just take the battery, and leave the phone to be discovered as if it had been tampered with?

 

[italianangel2411]

If that were the case, why not just get rid of the whole phone? Why just take the battery, and leave the phone to be discovered as if it had been tampered with?

WHY you ask? Because this is a SICK SICK person that killed Morgan! It sounds like he is fiddling with LE by taking the battery out of the phone on purpose acting like he is smarter than LE. I think it was done on purpose.

 

[GourmetSoy]

I'm having trouble understanding why some believe Morgan never made it to the concert? Both LE and the Harringtons' know more than we do. Both have stated Morgan made it to the concert. Multiple witnesses have stated seeing her there. I understand eye witness isn't 100% and some make honest mistakes. However, I doubt all of these witnesses that claim to have seen Morgan were mistaken. LE very well could have proof positive evidence (other than eye witness accounts) that she was infact at the concert that we don't know about. In any event, all involved in the investigation are saying she was at the concert, so why is that so hard to believe?

Is it because, so far, the only thing placing Morgan at the concert is eye witness accounts? I'm just trying to understand the doubts. TIA.

I'm not sure what I think either way, I guess leaning more to she was at the concert at least outside if she never made it in. I could be wrong but I think those that are doubting that she made it there could be thinking those eye witness accounts were actually spottings of D instead of MH. Top it off with no pics or video of her there and I see where the doubt comes in. Maybe those that have that theory will elaborate on that more for you. I can see where you're coming from though, especially if they know more than what they're saying about the concert. Very likely.

 

[GourmetSoy]

purposely taking a battery out of a cell phone in order to make sure it doesn't ping to be located equals pre-meditation!

Agreed! He knew what was going to happen to her before they left that lot. At least that he wasn't wanting to get caught!

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

I'm having trouble understanding why some believe Morgan never made it to the concert? Both LE and the Harringtons' know more than we do. Both have stated Morgan made it to the concert. Multiple witnesses have stated seeing her there. I understand eye witness isn't 100% and some make honest mistakes. However, I doubt all of these witnesses that claim to have seen Morgan were mistaken. LE very well could have proof positive evidence (other than eye witness accounts) that she was infact at the concert that we don't know about. In any event, all involved in the investigation are saying she was at the concert, so why is that so hard to believe?

Is it because, so far, the only thing placing Morgan at the concert is eye witness accounts? I'm just trying to understand the doubts. TIA.

Yes, that is pretty much it for me. The reason I don't believe the eyewitness accounts is that there is the other girl, Dee S. who looks so much like Morgan, that when that video was released (the discussion on this is on the first or second thread here, IIRC) even Morgan's father wasn't sure if it was her or not - and then Dee came forward and said it was her. What I find just astounding that Morgan is not on any of the video/cameras from the arena.

I could be wrong, but, I would really like to see one image of her - either on the arenas camera or on someone's camera showing her at the arena. The other thing I can't get past is the friends supposedly knowing from Morgan supposedly telling one of them on the phone that she would find a way home, but, they waited after the concert for _________ amount of time at the car - I used a blank as I have heard/read various times and honestly don't know how long they waited. The other thing I find weird, is Morgan called her Dad that afternoon to tell him they made it to pick up the friends, so why didn't she call him when she got to Char.. ? Just seems weird. Sorry if this is spacey sounding, I hurt my hand and between trouble typing and pain pills, this isn't probably my best effort.

 

[GourmetSoy]

If that were the case, why not just get rid of the whole phone? Why just take the battery, and leave the phone to be discovered as if it had been tampered with?

Maybe the same reason he left her in a field instead of burying her? Maybe he's toying with LE or he's really just that stupid.

ETA: italianangel, I think we we're on the same page

 

[rickh]

agreed! He knew what was going to happen to her before they left that lot. At least that he wasn't wanting to get caught!

i agree thats why i belive this was planned.there also may have been contact on this phone to the perp that he erased before he dumped it keeping the battery

 

[italianangel2411]

Yes, that is pretty much it for me. The reason I don't believe the eyewitness accounts is that there is the other girl, Dee S. who looks so much like Morgan, that when that video was released (the discussion on this is on the first or second thread here, IIRC) even Morgan's father wasn't sure if it was her or not - and then Dee came forward and said it was her. What I find just astounding that Morgan is not on any of the video/cameras from the arena.

I could be wrong, but, I would really like to see one image of her - either on the arenas camera or on someone's camera showing her at the arena. The other thing I can't get past is the friends supposedly knowing from Morgan supposedly telling one of them on the phone that she would find a way home, but, they waited after the concert for _________ amount of time at the car - I used a blank as I have heard/read various times and honestly don't know how long they waited. The other thing I find weird, is Morgan called her Dad that afternoon to tell him they made it to pick up the friends, so why didn't she call him when she got to Char.. ? Just seems weird. Sorry if this is spacey sounding, I hurt my hand and between trouble typing and pain pills, this isn't probably my best effort.

I hear what you mean..but we just need to go off by what the Harrington's and LE are saying. That bridge is the supposely last place she was last seen. They might of pictures from her friends cameras if they had theres with them..I read that they were being analyzed and their friends gave their cameras to LE. I don't think this for a fact but I did read it on findmorgan.
I can certainly understand where your thinking is. I wish we knew more information..especially from her friends.

 

[Natal]

If that were the case, why not just get rid of the whole phone? Why just take the battery, and leave the phone to be discovered as if it had been tampered with?

More likely the battery had been removed at some point prior, and the phone then dropped accidently or during a struggle.

 

[Indianagirl]

i agree thats why i belive this was planned.there also may have been contact on this phone to the perp that he erased before he dumped it keeping the battery

Phone records could substantiate any contact Morgan had that night. Erasing it from the phone doesn't erase it from phone records.

 

[panthera]

by looking at the map i would say she was brought in from blandemar road side.too much risk the other way.person definetly knows area.probably doesnt live close by.would draw to much attention to themselves.i still believe this was a well thought out plan.not just a something went wrong.just my thoughts

From the location of where she was found I am thinking it was planned even so much as someone purposely going to the concert arena with the intent of trying to pick up a beautiful, young woman ~ assuming the perp had never met Morgan before. MOO

 

[italianangel2411]

Phone records could substantiate any contact Morgan had that night. Erasing it from the phone doesn't erase it from phone records.

I think that text messages can be used as well to figure out where Morgan was.