Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #3

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  • #161
still on the car:

"the Hook editor. Morgan's dad originally told us that Morgan's car and keys stayed in Harrisonburg. In preparing this cover story, State Police spokesperson Corinne Geller-- asserting a change in info-- told us the contrary scenario we put in this story above. So we spoke again this morning to Dr. Harrington, and he stands by his statement: that Morgan's car was never in Charlottesville. Messages left this morning with Ms. Geller have not been immediately returned, but we'll update as soon as she clarifies....

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seriously? LE & Morgan's dad cant get together on who drove to the venue and who had the keys?!! this is crazy.


this car story is giving me a serious headache
 
  • #162
Hmmmm....on the FB page! Charles Walton: A reporter e-mailed me about this because there has been so much confusion. She is with a reliable station but I cannot mention her name. Here is what she wrote:
..and I wanted to let you know Morgan and her friends drove HER car to JPJA. Her friends then drove it back to JMU where they spent the night Saturday night. The car is now sitting in Morgan's parent's driveway... I've seen it quite a few times in the past week. State police told me originally they thought her friends drove to the concert in one of their cars, but found out late last week that was incorrect.
about an hour ago
So Morgan's car was used to go to the concert?
 
  • #163
still on the car:

"the Hook editor. Morgan's dad originally told us that Morgan's car and keys stayed in Harrisonburg. In preparing this cover story, State Police spokesperson Corinne Geller-- asserting a change in info-- told us the contrary scenario we put in this story above. So we spoke again this morning to Dr. Harrington, and he stands by his statement: that Morgan's car was never in Charlottesville. Messages left this morning with Ms. Geller have not been immediately returned, but we'll update as soon as she clarifies....

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seriously? LE & Morgan's dad cant get together on who drove to the venue and who had the keys?!! this is crazy.


this car story is giving me a serious headache

That is crazy...but I will have to go with the State Police spokesperson and what I have seen reported on our local news - that MH's car was at the JPJ
 
  • #164
If Morgan's car is being seen at her parents' driveway, then that to me indicates it was not used the night she went missing. Wouldn't the car have been impounded by police? The person states they have seen it "quite a few times in the past week".
 
  • #165
That is crazy...but I will have to go with the State Police spokesperson and what I have seen reported on our local news - that MH's car was at the JPJ

Uggh I totally give up on the car thing
 
  • #166
"Dan and Gil Harrington, however, no longer believe there's any chance Morgan voluntarily disappeared. 'We've gotten past the she-ran-away-with-a-boy idea,' says Dan. 'But I wish this had been the case. ' "
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"No longer believe?" This is new for me. Did they initially believe that Morgan may have left of her own volition?

I agree it could sound weird, but my personal interoperation (and this is only based on what I thought when I read it) was that there was hope that she had just run away at first b/c in this type of situation it would be the best case scenario, but not that they had any evidence that this was the case just that they hoped/believed this was the case. Then as time went on (and as far as we know there was no activity on her bank accounts etc.) they started to accept that this may well not have a happy ending. Interoperating it as I did it did not sound as strange to me. But if the statement was interoperated differently (which it reasonably could be) then it would be a little weird.

Moving on to the subject of the parents' demeanor on TV. They are totally normal to me with their emotion. Im sure that they are crying their eyes out in private. They are likely the kind of criers who cannot speak once they lose it and that wouldn't help Morgan's minutes on television; And every moment and every appearance by the parents keeps her face out there.

I totally 100% agree with this and I would like to add from my personal experience of suddenly and unexpectedly losing a family member who was in their 20's I think you just never know how you will react until you are in the situation. The way I felt and acted was not inappropriate, but it was just totally different than I thought it would be. Furthermore unfortunately when the types of tragedies strike there is lots of things that HAVE to be taken care of no matter how distasteful they are. From watching some of my family members and other families in tragic situations I feel that there are some people who at first react in a very stoic manner and that this is absolutely necessary because these issue have to be dealt with and those that are highly emotional can't really deal with them. In the situation the Harringtons are in I think it is even much more this way because Morgan is missing and no one knows if she is alive or dead. I think they have to be this way and they know that for now they have to stay stoic and appear strong for Morgan if she is still out there somewhere and happens to see a newspaper or TV or whatever. There will be time for more traditional grieving later.
 
  • #167
How are they going to find the girl, if they can't even decide who's car they were driving? :banghead:
 
  • #168
still on the car:

"the Hook editor. Morgan's dad originally told us that Morgan's car and keys stayed in Harrisonburg. In preparing this cover story, State Police spokesperson Corinne Geller-- asserting a change in info-- told us the contrary scenario we put in this story above. So we spoke again this morning to Dr. Harrington, and he stands by his statement: that Morgan's car was never in Charlottesville. Messages left this morning with Ms. Geller have not been immediately returned, but we'll update as soon as she clarifies....

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seriously? LE & Morgan's dad cant get together on who drove to the venue and who had the keys?!! this is crazy.


this car story is giving me a serious headache

:doh:

Unbelievable. This is absolutely insane. How could Morgan's dad and LE *still* be in disagreement over the car? It boggles the mind. Although I suppose if he thinks they didn't have her car, it makes it easier to not blame them for not doing anything. If he believed that they did have the car, and never bothered to hook up with her again to make sure she got home and got her car back, that would make them seem like pretty insensitive friends.

I give up! :HBwhiteflag:
 
  • #169
Ok if LE is stating it was indeed her car driven that night, it makes me even MORE confused and perplexed why her friends left her there......not only left her there, but drove home in HER car.

This whole thing is just not right. There is absolutely NO reason her friends would leave her there, especially driving her car and especially "as they supposedly said" didn't know for sure where she was.

I'm more than convinced now....her friends hold the key to this tragedy. None of us are so dumb and naive we don't see through this facade of inconsistences and untruths.

Poor Morgan....God Bless her.
 
  • #170
Thanks MBLover for your friend's input. I feel what she has to offer very, very important. Thanks to you as well for posting what you have.

You are most welcome!
 
  • #171
There seems to be an unusually high degree of confusion and discrepancy surrounding this whole case.Can't LE be more clear and forthcoming or is there truly so little that is actually known?I can't believe that clear concise info from LE plus 150k reward can't shake out some solid clues.
 
  • #172
:doh:

Unbelievable. This is absolutely insane. How could Morgan's dad and LE *still* be in disagreement over the car? It boggles the mind. Although I suppose if he thinks they didn't have her car, it makes it easier to not blame them for not doing anything. If he believed that they did have the car, and never bothered to hook up with her again to make sure she got home and got her car back, that would make them seem like pretty insensitive friends.

I give up! :HBwhiteflag:

If they thought/knew that she had friends in town, they might have assumed that she was spending the night with them, and would catch up with them/possibly pick up her car the next day.
 
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I wouldn't doubt this at all. Tailgating is pretty common in that area during bigger shows, it was nearly a festival during the Grateful Dead.

What really strikes me as odd is that her friends just left, even if they did wait a few hours, the didn't notify anyone? My friends would have never left me, especially if they could not phone me.

bbm

And there it is.

I cant get beyond that part either. If she, "..had a ride," why wait at all?

OR if you're going to wait b/c she's "around" and said, " OR I''ll meet you at the car" then why not page her on the PA system?

How many "hours" is "enough" hrs?

If they had no confirmation from MH via cell phone saying, "YES I HAVE A RIDE" in an out-of-townn situation, why not lean toward the safe side and call SOMEONE?

sheesh.
 
  • #175
still on the car:

"the Hook editor. Morgan's dad originally told us that Morgan's car and keys stayed in Harrisonburg. In preparing this cover story, State Police spokesperson Corinne Geller-- asserting a change in info-- told us the contrary scenario we put in this story above. So we spoke again this morning to Dr. Harrington, and he stands by his statement: that Morgan's car was never in Charlottesville. Messages left this morning with Ms. Geller have not been immediately returned, but we'll update as soon as she clarifies....

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seriously? LE & Morgan's dad cant get together on who drove to the venue and who had the keys?!! this is crazy.


this car story is giving me a serious headache

I'm back to wondering if the friends were truthful in the beginning. I think it's quite possible they told LE and Morgan's parents someone else's car was driven to C'Ville because they thought they'd get in trouble for driving her car but recently realized they needed to fess up to the truth...thus the change in info.

Just a thought...
 
  • #176
Eyespeeled - I like your thinking...but my theory differs. So I am going to dump mine here and see what we can come up with together. The more brains the better, right?

I think Morgan and her friends had some type of tiff. Maybe she wanted to go smoke and no one would go with her. Fine...she stomps off and goes to smoke, but inadvertantly walks out the wrong door - and there were no signs or guards to tell her about the no readmittance policy. So - now she is outside and angry. She sits on the steps and smokes a cigg to calm down and then she gets up to go inside. That is when she is told that there is no reentry. Now she is really mad! She goes back to sit on the steps and call her friends. (This could be when the couple saw her on the steps and made some comment about her shirt and she said "F*&^ you!" to him.) Morgan calls her friends and they can't really hear her and she is frustrated because they don't seem to understand her frustration so she angrily yells, "Never mind - I'll find my own ride home!" (Not really serious, but saying it more in anger than anything else). She goes back to sit on the steps and try to figure out what to do...how to get back in...why she has such lousy friends...etc. A male approaches her and asks why she is outside. Being trusting and friendly she explains the situation. He tells her he is arriving late because his friend didn't show up and he has an extra ticket in his car...if she would be interested. Of course, she is! She has waited 6 months to see Metallica. So - she walks from the arena with him to the parking area across from the arena. As they get the end of the parking lot (across the road from the RV lot) - she gets nervous. He sees it as his opportunity - he drags her across the road to the RV lot and assaults her. She fights, screams, yells, but no one is around so it is all in vain. Then he moves his car from somewhere (or has it in the RV lot) and puts her inside. From there - he had over 12 hours to take her somewhere and...who knows from there.

I cant envision her - even if how high the moon (and we dont know that) I cannot envsion her going to some dude's car who says he has an extra ticket. If someone indeed had an extra ticket, it does them NO GOOD in the car; and wallking into the venue they could perhaps unload it on someone for a few bucks. And even if some dude DID have an extra ticket in the car, I can only see her saying, "Great I'll wait here while YOU GO GET IT."

moo
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I hope LE has searched inside the arena.
 
  • #179
So let's assume that her friends all had impaired judgment that night. Even so, friends DO NOT just leave someone behind without making sure that their formulated plan actually worked out the way they thought it would. The ONLY WAY I could see them justify just leaving without her is that this type of behavior was a normal pattern for Morgan. Is it possible that she went to several shows/events/concerts with them and frequently left the group and found another way home? If she did this successfully several times and it was normal behavior for her, they may have not thought twice about leaving without her or without contacting her. Just my 2 cents.
 
  • #180
I have a question, I’ve heard the theory that maybe she just ran off being offered up here. I think that this would be an entire possible scenario. As weird as it sounds to most of us sometimes people just run away. In my mind I feel like this unlikely however for one reason. I today’s digitally connected world I think it would be very difficult for someone of her means are resources to just disappear without a trace. With no hits of any of her bank accounts not credit cards no evidence on her computer etc. I know a lot of people like say things like in ‘any major city you can buy a fake identity yada yada yada’ I don’t know if it is true that this information can be had, but I firmly believe that the average person can’t get this type stuff without significant effort. I think it is a TV fantasy that you can go to a shady area of town and ask around and in a few days have a new identity. Maybe if you had connection to organized crime or the underworld in some area’s you could get it but not otherwise. Now I suppose it has only been 2 weeks so maybe someone could have been helping her out and hiding her, but I think it would have been really hard to plan this out without leaving some trace of this.

So do you think she just ran off? Like I said I would think that it would be entirely possible, but I think it would be almost impossible for her to do it without leaving significant evidence that this was are real possibility and nothing we have heard suggest that they have found any of this kind of evidence. Honestly I really hope she just ran off b/c in this situation I think that is the best case.
 
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