Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #8

[Janeumayer]

Is it even true that there were extra tickets?

Not that we know of.

 

[Walker]

Not that we know of.

We don't know, but say that there were extra tickets in the car. (Someone couldn't make it that night). Morgan would have been more likely to leave thinking that she would have no trouble at all going right back in. We don't know, though.

 

[Ghostmaster]

I need some help from the female members that post here please. Maybe you can help me with this line of thinking. I have seen many posts by females here and elsewhere about Morgan always looking great when it comes to her hair, makeup and clothing. Even in a casual situation when others are dressed down, she’s dressed up. We all know what Morgan was wearing that night, but does anyone know what the other girls were wearing the night of the concert? Was Morgan “dressed to kill” compared to them? If so, it might mean she had plans to be elsewhere that night. Also in the same line of thinking, several women have commented on how important it was to her to always look great in any situation, hence the makeup, cloths, etc. Could a 20 year old girl be so worried or so vain about a cut on her face as to leave the JPJ arena and not want to return because she didn’t want to be seen? There is no reason for my asking other than curiosity, especially when it comes to how the others were dressed that night. It may be I’m just thinking like a guy here and way off base that those things might be important.

 

[Walker]

Per Walker "I also spoke with current JMU student, Northside High School graduate, and close friend of Morgan Harrington, Sarah Snead. Snead told me she was one of the three people in Morgan’s car on the way to the Metallica concert, and one of the two people in the car on the way back from the concert to JMU."



Walker now I am confused. Are you saying that only three people were in Morgans car going to the concert and two going home. I thought Morgan, two friends and the boyfriend of another friend were there. Per your post it would make three going and one missing on the ride home. Would that be the unidentified boyfriend?

So are you thinking Morgan never even went to the concert?

That quote was actually from a reporter. My theory is maybe Morgan's party traveled in two cars that evening from JMU to the concert. Maybe there was a fifth companion. Possibly more than five?

 

[Walker]

Walker you do bring up a very good point, and give a very strong possible theory to back it up.
Say the boyfriend of one of Morgan's girlfriends, is the one who left, taking into consideration your theory as a possibility. Perhaps he had Morgan's keys and had got into a fight with his girlfriend who was there. Maybe Morgan was sent outside to mediate the situation? When she got outside, he was gone along with the her car. She couldn't get back inside and finally supposedly one of her girlfriends inside the arena text her.
Morgan attempts to get back inside to no avail.

Would it be possible that the "boyfriend" who attended this concert with them was not one of the other girl's boyfriends at all. But that, he was indeed Morgans? Maybe her parents didn't like him so the girlfriends were helping cover for Morgan, saying to LE that he was one of theirs and not Morgan's boyfriend.
Just throwing some possible scenarios out there..

Walker, this theory of yours is quite impressive! Please do elaborate more upon it.
Also, what is your take on why we've not heard the name of the "boyfriend" that was them that night mentioned?
Others have brought it up, and it is a good question. We know the names of the girls who went, yet it seems as for their male companion, they have neglected to mention his name..

Say if Morgan and her date were an inter-racial couple, might they attract negative attention, enough to make him want to leave early?

Picture of Morgan with unidentified guy:

 

[lilacwine]

We don't know, but say that there were extra tickets in the car. (Someone couldn't make it that night). Morgan would have been more likely to leave thinking that she would have no trouble at all going right back in. We don't know, though.

but the possibility of there being extra tickets gets very speculative that it confuses things.

I really think Mr. Harrington confirmed he bought 4 tickets that were used by Morgan, the two females and one male that rode down together.

If that's the case then to think there might be extra tickets skips too many steps.. in my opinion... into speculation.

I mean there could have been scalpers outside too and she could have thought she'd get back in that way... but it's just a few too many dots away from what we have ... again in my opinion... and causes ... at least me... confusion.

 

[lilacwine]

I need some help from the female members that post here please. Maybe you can help me with this line of thinking. I have seen many posts by females here and elsewhere about Morgan always looking great when it comes to her hair, makeup and clothing. Even in a casual situation when others are dressed down, she’s dressed up. We all know what Morgan was wearing that night, but does anyone know what the other girls were wearing the night of the concert? Was Morgan “dressed to kill” compared to them? If so, it might mean she had plans to be elsewhere that night. Also in the same line of thinking, several women have commented on how important it was to her to always look great in any situation, hence the makeup, cloths, etc. Could a 20 year old girl be so worried or so vain about a cut on her face as to leave the JPJ arena and not want to return because she didn’t want to be seen? There is no reason for my asking other than curiosity, especially when it comes to how the others were dressed that night. It may be I’m just thinking like a guy here and way off base that those things might be important.

OKay from my experience as a female .. and I also teach high school (girls not much younger than Morgan) In my opinion.... her mother didn't think the outfit extra dressy for the concert and she's probably seen what Morgan wears to concerts before, so I don't think the outfit indicates that at all.

Secondly, I've seen some photos of her that look casual with little make up. and just t-shirts etc.. I don't think she is as obsessive about her appearance as people might think. I think.. she has a figure that looks good in anything and has beautiful skin.

If she were so upset about the cut on her face.. I think she'd seek medical attention from the arena... first aid station or go back to her friends for help.. I do not think she left the arena for this.

Also, as a female... if my friend were just going to the bathroom shortly before the headline band was going to play... I'd go too because I wouldn't want to go when Metallica was playing. I find it VERY strange neither of her friends went... not suggesting anything nefarious... but I think most girls would go to the restroom with a friend.. not for protection... but just because it's pretty common for girls to go together. Especially with this timing

 

[Walker]

but the possibility of there being extra tickets gets very speculative that it confuses things.

I really think Mr. Harrington confirmed he bought 4 tickets that were used by Morgan, the two females and one male that rode down together.

Do you have a link? This statement would conflict with Sarah Snead's statement; but who knows?

Snead's statement:
http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/state...ch_effort_for_morgan_harrington_begins/60473/

If that's the case then to think there might be extra tickets skips too many steps.. in my opinion... into speculation.

I mean there could have been scalpers outside too and she could have thought she'd get back in that way... but it's just a few too many dots away from what we have ... again in my opinion... and causes ... at least me... confusion.

The possibility of an extra ticket outside is only a very small detail anyway.

 

[Javabean]

Hey guys,

I just read some posts on readthehook and a person who claims to have met Morgan a few times migt have some insight on some of the things we've been wondering about. Of course, this would have to be taken with a grain of salt, but the poster seems sincere:

From Roanoke November 19th, 2009 | 2:41 pm
dakota, i only met morgan a few times at school. because it was in a school setting, her behavior at the concert does not match her behavior when i met her. this was some years ago, though. she was a junior in high school, so it was about four years ago. however, i always got the impression that she was a smart girl with her head on straight. i knew she was into a few things that some people might consider “bad,” but nothing that would cause her to act the way she did at the concert. i agree with you. i also think that her behavior may have been caused by some date rape drug.

As well as why Moran may have changed schools:

From Roanoke November 19th, 2009 | 3:42 pm
dakota, i have no clue why morgan changed schools her senior year. a friend told me that she did it because she didn’t live in the correct school district, and her parents were paying tuition for her to go to a roanoke county school. but the news has mentioned “the harrington’s ROANOKE COUNTY home.” so what my friend told me can’t be the actual reason. some say it was because she got in trouble with alcohol or something of that sort. but i don’t believe this to be true either. she was an education major at tech. i’m also majoring in education and it’s foolish to major in education if you have possesion or underage drinking charges because it makes finding a job next to impossible after graduating college.

Linked from http://www.readthehook.com/blog/ind...fore-hitching-morgan-harrington-caused-worry/

 

[debirlfan]

It's still on my mind. I seriously wonder why LE has not released a photo of the following items: t-shirt, skirt, handbag, and boots. Why not post: photos similar to the items Morgan was last seen wearing. Do you recall seeing a person wearing this attire?

I don’t believe it would jeopardize any future witness accounts.

I agree that it's time to release exact photos of what she was wearing - I can understand that at first, they were trying to weed out incorrect sightings - but at this point, if they don't have a lot more than they're saying, then it's time to put the photos out there and try to jog someone's memory.

 

[debirlfan]

If she were so upset about the cut on her face.. I think she'd seek medical attention from the arena... first aid station or go back to her friends for help.. I do not think she left the arena for this.

I keep hearing "cut on the chin" - are we sure she had a cut on her chin? Is there any chance she might have had a bloody nose that dripped or smudged onto her chin?

Wild speculation here, but could she have gotten a bloody nose doing coke? If so, it would explain why she wouldn't go to a first-aid station, and perhaps why she might have gone outside to get cleaned up. (She could have even gone to the car - either with another key, or perhaps the car wasn't locked.)

 

[secret_agent_mom]

I'm sorry I haven't been on today. I have had a terrible migraine. I am trying to catch up so forgive me for not quoting.

The Blue light phone that is in the parking lot by the baseball field behind what they call the RV lot was broken. We took a pic there. It is here: http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/tracynb/For%20Morgan/Morgan010-1.jpg

 

[mark00]

I'm sorry I haven't been on today. I have had a terrible migraine. I am trying to catch up so forgive me for not quoting.

The Blue light phone that is in the parking lot by the baseball field behind what they call the RV lot was broken. We took a pic there. It is here: http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/tracynb/For%20Morgan/Morgan010-1.jpg

Incredible. When was this photo taken? Approximately how far from the RV lot is this phone located?

 

[secret_agent_mom]

Say if Morgan and her date were an inter-racial couple, might they attract negative attention, enough to make him want to leave early?
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Respectfully snipped.

Even if Morgan met someone of a different race, I don't think she would have had any problems. I have bi-racial children and have never had any problems at all in Charlottesville. I think because it is a college town and home to a major medical center - there are lots of inter-racial couples. I see lots of races together and know many mixed children and couples. I have never heard of any problems with race in the area. In my experience, Charlottesville is a very open minded and accepting area. There are many gays, races, socio-economic groups and all seem to live pretty much in harmony. I can't think of any instances of hate crimes in that area...and very little gang activity in/near the campus area. Most of the gang activity I am aware of has happened right in the city area and not over by the campus. IMHO, of course.

 

[secret_agent_mom]

Incredible. When was this photo taken? Approximately how far from the RV lot is this phone located?

This picture was taken on October 25th.

I edited the pic with the location of where the purse was found to show you where the box is located. Orange arrow indcates where the box is. P - represents the purse.

The map is here:http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/tracynb/For%20Morgan/2009-11-22202000.png

Since we are talking about this area again. I would like to mention that when we were there - there was lots of construction going on. There were big dumpsters and piles of dirt. We even saw a shovel out near one of the smaller piles of dirt.

 

[secret_agent_mom]

I keep hearing "cut on the chin" - are we sure she had a cut on her chin? Is there any chance she might have had a bloody nose that dripped or smudged onto her chin?

Wild speculation here, but could she have gotten a bloody nose doing coke? If so, it would explain why she wouldn't go to a first-aid station, and perhaps why she might have gone outside to get cleaned up. (She could have even gone to the car - either with another key, or perhaps the car wasn't locked.)

The report was that the injury to her chin happened when she fell up/down a step while taking pictures of the band. I don't think it was a result of her doing coke. It is possible, however, that she went to look for a first-aid station, to the bathroom or maybe even outside to get cleaned up and get herself together.

 

[MeoW333]

Contradictory info has been presented about Morgan's party; how many people, how many cars, and how many tickets that her father paid for. However, at this point in time, we have reports that at least two female companions, and at least one male companion were present that night.

Link: http://www.readthehook.com/blog/ind...fore-hitching-morgan-harrington-caused-worry/

Quote: "A male who traveled to the concert with the three women from Harrisonburg has never been publicly identified, and while police and the Harrington family have declined to name him, he is not considered a suspect, says Virginia State Police spokesperson Corinne Geller, who said on November 13 that Morgan had her thumb out to hitch a ride."

However, one of the girls offered a seemingly contradictory statement.

Link: http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/state...ch_effort_for_morgan_harrington_begins/60473/

Quote: "From Scott Leamon, in the field
WSLS Reporter
[email protected]

...

I also spoke with current JMU student, Northside High School graduate, and close friend of Morgan Harrington, Sarah Snead. Snead told me she was one of the three people in Morgan’s car on the way to the Metallica concert, and one of the two people in the car on the way back from the concert to JMU."

However, earlier the possibility that Morgan's party arrived in two cars at the concert was mentioned. Two cars could account for this discrepancy.

That's odd that Snead would say that. That would imply that the boyfriend didn't go along in their car. Which goes against all the other info we have of him going with them, however it fits in with this media "black out" of naming him at all for whatever reason..
If they see no reason to name him if they don't see him suspect, then they really do need to name him so we can do a background check on him.
They name the 2 girls who went with Morgan, why not name the one's "boyfriend" as well?

That above witness account who claims to have seen Morgan with 4 guys is disturbing!

 

[MeoW333]

This picture was taken on October 25th.

I edited the pic with the location of where the purse was found to show you where the box is located. Orange arrow indcates where the box is. P - represents the purse.

The map is here:http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/tracynb/For Morgan/2009-11-22202000.png

Since we are talking about this area again. I would like to mention that when we were there - there was lots of construction going on. There were big dumpsters and piles of dirt. We even saw a shovel out near one of the smaller piles of dirt.

It seems like it would be far from where the purse and sighting #5 were to where the BLP phone is even if it worked.. There seems to be less BLP phones clustered in the area of the arena than other areas..

 

[Cardinal47]

I need some help from the female members that post here please. Maybe you can help me with this line of thinking. I have seen many posts by females here and elsewhere about Morgan always looking great when it comes to her hair, makeup and clothing. Even in a casual situation when others are dressed down, she’s dressed up. We all know what Morgan was wearing that night, but does anyone know what the other girls were wearing the night of the concert? Was Morgan “dressed to kill” compared to them? If so, it might mean she had plans to be elsewhere that night. Also in the same line of thinking, several women have commented on how important it was to her to always look great in any situation, hence the makeup, cloths, etc. Could a 20 year old girl be so worried or so vain about a cut on her face as to leave the JPJ arena and not want to return because she didn’t want to be seen? There is no reason for my asking other than curiosity, especially when it comes to how the others were dressed that night. It may be I’m just thinking like a guy here and way off base that those things might be important.

As the mother of several daughters I can tell you there are some that like to groom and some that are not that interested. Some are big with doing their hair and keeping every hair in place. Others just get a cut now and then and don't worry. One of my daughters had a friend that needed 2 hours to get ready for any event with her hair and makeup. Another friend, an only child, still had her perfect outfit set out every morning by her mother. The conclusion is that all girls are different in their needs and grooming habits.

You know I am still not convinced that the girl with the cut was Morgan. I think a lot of girls going to a concert like that were dressed like Morgan because that was "concert style". I personally think a lot of the sightings of Morgan..weren't her. Case in point would be when everybodn blogging thought the video of Dee up front in the black outfit and blonde hair was Morgan..even her mother and father had differing opinions as I remember.

If one did get a cut I think they would go into the bathroom and put a papertowel with water on it for a minute or two. If it did not stop bleeding then perhaps a trip to first aid.

Also I have a hard time seeing Morgan drinking and getting high. She just doesn't seem like that kind of girl from what I have read on different blogs. Oh I am sure she could lift a beer at times, being sociable, like the others did but all this talk of drugs and drinking...I don't think so.

A long time ago I was told by my mother "The Acorn Never Falls Too Far From The Tree" Morgans family are so nice, respectful and kind to one another. I like to think of Morgan being a lot like them.

All of the above is just my humble opinion.

 

[MeoW333]

Do you have a link? This statement would conflict with Sarah Snead's statement; but who knows?

Snead's statement:
http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/state...ch_effort_for_morgan_harrington_begins/60473/



The possibility of an extra ticket outside is only a very small detail anyway.

What if Sarah Snead was lying to protect the boyfriend?
Do we know whose boyfriend he is..?
Would the other girls lie to "protect" him for some reason?
He seems awfully "protected" in general, his name isn't even mentioned..