VA VA - Ralph Leon Jackson, Blue Ridge Parkway Shooter, 4 May 2010

[jaejae]

I do not know who the offender is in the child rape case from Orange County and it is a horrible crime (understatement) and the offender needs to be caught. It cannot of course be an EAR/ONS case. However the DA involved in the genetic genealogy investigation in my opinion has been trying to seek the death penalty along with other DA's on an innocent man in the Golden State Killer case. It is my view that Joseph DeAngelo was not the offender and the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson and the FBI know this as they control his DNA although he is very likely dead now. Again to any lawyers reading my posts I believe Ralph Jackson was also the offender know as the NorCal Rapist and I think it would be morally wrong if a wrongful conviction was allowed in this case as I believe was condoned in the case of Mr Talbott in Washington particularly in light of what I consider to be the suffering of an innocent man in the Golden State Killer case which has gone on for far too long:

For first time in Orange County, DNA from a female family member leads to arrest – Orange County Register

I do no know who the offender is in Orange County case and as I say it is a horrible crime. It is my view however that LE in general do not understand the flawed genetic genealogy science they are using which often leads to innocent people being wrongly accused of crimes. Again to lawyers in cases like the NorCal Rapist case I would say the FBI's failure to correct the mistake in the Golden State Killer case for well over a year and their willingness to condone a wrongful conviction in the case of Mr Talbott sets a dangerous precedent. Also again I would urge privacy and innocent groups to look at the situation in these cases:

For first time in Orange County, DNA from a female family member leads to arrest | Marquart Law Group

 

[jaejae]

I have stated on this thread that I believe many innocent people have been wrongly accused of crimes through the use of what is termed investigative genetic genealogy. This must raise very serious privacy concerns and also concerns about the procedures of LE that has lead to them 'victimising' the wrongly accused in these cases. Here is an article about genetic genealogy and privacy. As far as I know this site is one which has not allowed LE free access to peoples DNA profiles:

23andMe Founder Anne Wojcicki Says Consumers With Privacy Concerns Just Need Time to Get Used to Genetic Testing

 

[jaejae]

Here is a report about a case where DNA genetic genealogy was used and the suspect plead guilty:

Detectives Used DNA From Straw to Catch Rapist in Alexandria

 

[jaejae]

Here is a report about a case where DNA genetic genealogy was used and the suspect plead guilty:

Detectives Used DNA From Straw to Catch Rapist in Alexandria

One would assume that this is the right offender in this case. I know though in many cases innocent men have been wrongly identified through the use of genetic genealogy and I believe the Washington State case was one and this is why it set a dangerous precedent that when this case came to trial the FBI in my opinion withheld evidence form his defence and again in my opinion this included the fact there was no valid DNA hit and the DNA at the crime scene was of another offender. It is my view innocent men have been presented with the frightening situation of LE confronting them convinced they have 'trillion to one' DNA hits when these DNA hits are not legitimate and therefore in the odd case not the one above innocent men may have been pressurised into pleading guilty. Also is you look the defence in the Washington case was originally not even that good and did not challenge the DNA hit and I believe it was likely the defendant was pressurised into a consensual intercourse defence even though there was no valid DNA hit and this was never going to wash with a jury. So what I am saying again is what I believe was the wrongful conviction in the Washington State case was because DNA evidence was withheld by the FBI and this sets a dangerous precedent because it encourages the continued use of genetic genealogy where other innocent people may be wrongly accused of crimes and it hampers the defence in other cases because the DNA evidence is given a false legitimacy. Also of course there is the possibility there may be other wrongful convictions where evidence is withheld from the defence.

 

[jaejae]

Here is a report about a case where DNA genetic genealogy was used and the suspect plead guilty:

Detectives Used DNA From Straw to Catch Rapist in Alexandria

Here is another report about this Virginian case:

DNA database search leads to suspect, guilty plea in 2016 Virginia rape

 

[jaejae]

If the Innocence Project read my posts I would like them to look at the case of Mr Talbott in Washington State where I believed the use of genetic genealogy was flawed and not challenged enough by his defence team at his trial and also at some other cases where investigative genetic genealogy has been used. Here though is an interesting article about a case they are involved in and the Golden State Killer case gets a mention:

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I say again I am in favour of victims of crimes getting justice and LE protecting people including myself but call be old fashioned but I like it to be the right person to be paying for terrible crimes.

 

[jaejae]

Here is a recent article about ParaBon Labs and genetic genealogy. As I have said it is my belief that ParaBon Labs have actually been involved in many cases where innocent people have been wrongly identified as the offender in serious crime cases and in my opinion this includes the Washington State case of Mr Talbott where I believe knowledge of his evidence was not divulged by the FBI to his defence team. This has set a dangerous precedent in my opinion and allowed ParaBon Labs to continue to use investigative genetic genealogy in other cases where innocent men may wrongly have been accused of crimes:

https://www.bizjournals.com/washing...local-company-is-helping-catch-cold-case.html

 

[jaejae]

Here is a recent article about ParaBon Labs and genetic genealogy. As I have said it is my belief that ParaBon Labs have actually been involved in many cases where innocent people have been wrongly identified as the offender in serious crime cases and in my opinion this includes the Washington State case of Mr Talbott where I believe knowledge of his evidence was not divulged by the FBI to his defence team. This has set a dangerous precedent in my opinion and allowed ParaBon Labs to continue to use investigative genetic genealogy in other cases where innocent men may wrongly have been accused of crimes:

https://www.bizjournals.com/washing...local-company-is-helping-catch-cold-case.html

ParaBon Labs are a private company and they will need to be held to account for any mistakes they have made because I believe they do not understand the genetic genealogy they are using and the flaws in the science they apply to it:


Then in 2018, when the notorious Golden State Killer was caught using a technique called genetic genealogy, the local company upended its entire business. It had been waiting to go live with a genetic genealogy service of its own, and that was a signal to make the move.


Steven Armentrout.

https://www.bizjournals.com/washing...local-company-is-helping-catch-cold-case.html

 

[jaejae]

Here are a couple of blogs about the use of DNA databases and privacy and one makes reference to the new guidelines brought in by the US Department Of Justice that come into effect on the 1st November this year:

Balancing Technology with Data Privacy: DataforGood

This blog also mentions the use of genetic genealogy to solve crimes. To me the debate has not really started as the real issue is in my opinion LE, genealogists and private companies have been accessing these databases and through flawed science actually accusing innocent people of crimes they did not commit with all the negative consequences this has on their lives and that of their families:

Diane Dimond: If You Share Your DNA, Should You Expect Privacy?

 

[jaejae]

Here are a couple of blogs about the use of DNA databases and privacy and one makes reference to the new guidelines brought in by the US Department Of Justice that come into effect on the 1st November this year:

Balancing Technology with Data Privacy: DataforGood

This blog also mentions the use of genetic genealogy to solve crimes. To me the debate has not really started as the real issue is in my opinion LE, genealogists and private companies have been accessing these databases and through flawed science actually accusing innocent people of crimes they did not commit with all the negative consequences this has on their lives and that of their families:

Diane Dimond: If You Share Your DNA, Should You Expect Privacy?

Here is part of one of the above blogs and as I say this is simply not true and in my opinion there have been many mistakes. In the Golden State Killer case where a man has been detained for over a year in my opinion the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson. I also believe the case of Mr Talbott in Washington State was a wrongful conviction and the FBI are aware he was innocent as they are in my opinion aware that the man held in the Golden State Killer case is innocent:
Imagine a day when hardly anyone is able to get away with murder. Think about that. If there were a way to almost guarantee a killer would be discovered and punished, wouldn't the murder rate go into freefall decline?

Frivolous thinking, you say? Well, consider the forensic crime-fighting advances that have been developed in recent years.

Homicides considered to be unsolvable are now being solved. Years-old cold cases are becoming red-hot again. Advances in DNA science allow creative genealogists to use DNA in all sorts of amazing ways to identify both the nameless dead and long-sought violent crime suspects. Guilty parties are being identified, spontaneous confessions are being given and survivors are finally getting answers.

https://www.noozhawk.com/article/di...e_your_dna_should_you_expect_privacy_20191019

 

[jaejae]

Here is part of one of the above blogs and as I say this is simply not true and in my opinion there have been many mistakes. In the Golden State Killer case where a man has been detained for over a year in my opinion the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson. I also believe the case of Mr Talbott in Washington State was a wrongful conviction and the FBI are aware he was innocent as they are in my opinion aware that the man held in the Golden State Killer case is innocent:
Imagine a day when hardly anyone is able to get away with murder. Think about that. If there were a way to almost guarantee a killer would be discovered and punished, wouldn't the murder rate go into freefall decline?

Frivolous thinking, you say? Well, consider the forensic crime-fighting advances that have been developed in recent years.

Homicides considered to be unsolvable are now being solved. Years-old cold cases are becoming red-hot again. Advances in DNA science allow creative genealogists to use DNA in all sorts of amazing ways to identify both the nameless dead and long-sought violent crime suspects. Guilty parties are being identified, spontaneous confessions are being given and survivors are finally getting answers.

Diane Dimond: If You Share Your DNA, Should You Expect Privacy?

I have been trying to stop all people of being wrongly accused of crimes and this blog is the perfect example of how dangerous in my opinion it was for the FBI to condone a wrongful conviction in the Washington State case;

Privacy advocates warn that the family tree procedure amounts to Big Brother "genetic surveillance." In response, new federal rules for familial DNA searches are now being developed, funded by Department of Justice grants.

It still puzzles me, though, that anyone would want to stymie an investigator searching for a serial rapist or murderer. No one should get away with such crimes.

Coupling DNA advances with DNA genealogy has been called the biggest crime-fighting breakthrough in recent history. To restrict this innovation and risk leaving violent criminals on the loose is madness.

Diane Dimond: If You Share Your DNA, Should You Expect Privacy?

 

[jaejae]

I have been trying to stop all people of being wrongly accused of crimes and this blog is the perfect example of how dangerous in my opinion it was for the FBI to condone a wrongful conviction in the Washington State case;

Privacy advocates warn that the family tree procedure amounts to Big Brother "genetic surveillance." In response, new federal rules for familial DNA searches are now being developed, funded by Department of Justice grants.

It still puzzles me, though, that anyone would want to stymie an investigator searching for a serial rapist or murderer. No one should get away with such crimes.

Coupling DNA advances with DNA genealogy has been called the biggest crime-fighting breakthrough in recent history. To restrict this innovation and risk leaving violent criminals on the loose is madness.

Diane Dimond: If You Share Your DNA, Should You Expect Privacy?

Again I ask lawyers and human rights groups to read my posts and note that at the moment the ethical debate is wrongly stacked in favour of those arguing for the use of investigative genetic genealogy because in my view the mistakes made through the use of genetic genealogy have yet to be exposed. This is the responsibility of the FBI who had so far appeared to take very little action to stop other innocent people being wrongly accused of crimes even though the know Mr DeAngelo in the Golden State Killer case is innocent and of course Mr DeAngelo is still incarcerated in my opinion for crimes he did not commit as we head to the start of another year.

 

[jaejae]

Here is a report which is about a case that involved genetic genealogy:

'I'm going to keep fighting for what's right': Investigator on a mission to solve cold cases

 

[jaejae]

Here is another case where there has been an arrest after the use of investigative genetic genealogy:

DNA links Montgomery County teen to violent 2017 rape in Norristown Farm Park

 

[jaejae]

Here is another case where there has been an arrest after the use of investigative genetic genealogy:

DNA links Montgomery County teen to violent 2017 rape in Norristown Farm Park

I am in favour of the capture of violent criminals and do not know who the offender was in the 2017 rape case mentioned above and it cannot be Ralph Leon Jackson. However these cases are inspired by the use of the genetic genealogy in the Golden State Killer case where I believe there was a mistake and the wrong man identified as the offender as the actual offender was Ralph Jackson. If the lawyers in the NorCal Rapist case read this thread it is my opinion that Ralph Jackson was the offender in the NorCal Rapist cases and as such you could view them as an extension of his East Area Rapist crimes. In my opinion the same scientifically flawed genetic genealogy procedures were used to wrongly accuse an innocent man Mr Waller in this case. It is my view that it would again set a very dangerous precedent if a wrongful conviction would occur in this case which came as a direct result of Sacramento LE's mistakes in the Golden State Killer case which in my view has lead to the tremendous suffering of an innocent man and his family through no fault of theirs and simply because of the case they are caught up because of the mistakes of LE which appear very difficult to admit to:

And for two years, Montgomery County District Attorney Kevin R. Steele had obsessed over the case. He and his staff, Steele said Monday, began to “think outside the box.” They posted a $10,000 reward. They consulted with prosecutors in California who caught the “Golden State Killer.” And they submitted their only clue, the attacker’s DNA, to strenuous testing at a lab.

DNA links Montgomery County teen to violent 2017 rape in Norristown Farm Park

 

[jaejae]

Here are details of another case where genetic genealogy has been used to identify a suspect in a serious crime:

Forensic genealogy solves 1984 cold case murder of Traci Hammerberg in Ozaukee County

 

[jaejae]

Here is another report about this Virginian case:

DNA database search leads to suspect, guilty plea in 2016 Virginia rape

Here is an interesting report about this case:

Genetic Genealogy Leads to Rape Conviction

 

[cherrymeg]

Here is an interesting report about this case:

Genetic Genealogy Leads to Rape Conviction

This seems like a win. I'm for getting rapist off the street.

 

[jaejae]

This seems like a win. I'm for getting rapist off the street.

I agree with you and there seems some collaborating evidence and a confession in this case. But as you know I do not believe genetic genealogy has identified the right offender in all cases. In my opinion one of these is the NorCal Rapist case and another that little old case called the Golden State Killer case which has had some influence on the use of investigative genetic genealogy. As I say though agree with what you said

 

[cherrymeg]

I agree with you and there seems some collaborating evidence and a confession in this case. But as you know I do not believe genetic genealogy has identified the right offender in all cases. In my opinion one of these is the NorCal Rapist case and another that little old case called the Golden State Killer case which has had some influence on the use of investigative genetic genealogy. As I say though agree with what you said

I believe DeAngelo is guilty of most crimes attributed to him. I know you don't believe that. I might be wrong. It's not because I trust LE or DNA 100% I think if cops wanted to frame him they could have done it long before DNA was being given out like candy.
Jesse Bjerke as you said plead guilty and beyond that they had a clear timeline of his movements. That is one difference between cold cases and more recent ones. They were able to establish when he left work when he turned on and off his phone. His search history. DNA just led them to him. It can be useful when you are looking at someone who picks random victims.