VA VA - Ralph Leon Jackson, Blue Ridge Parkway Shooter, 4 May 2010

[jaejae]

I believe DeAngelo is guilty of most crimes attributed to him. I know you don't believe that. I might be wrong. It's not because I trust LE or DNA 100% I think if cops wanted to frame him they could have done it long before DNA was being given out like candy.
Jesse Bjerke as you said plead guilty and beyond that they had a clear timeline of his movements. That is one difference between cold cases and more recent ones. They were able to establish when he left work when he turned on and off his phone. His search history. DNA just led them to him. It can be useful when you are looking at someone who picks random victims.

Probably best just to differ on that and no to go into a long discussion What i am saying is there is no valid DNA hit in the genetic genealogy cases I mentioned above and others because the science is flawed. In my opinion the DNA hits are 'phoney' ones. If you have studied the case Mr DeAngelo is nothing like the offender people were looking for. He is the wrong height, the wrong age looks nothing like any of the composite sketches etc etc and was not even in right town for the East Area Rapist cases

 

[cherrymeg]

Probably best just to differ on that and no to go into a long discussion What i am saying is there is no valid DNA hit in the genetic genealogy cases I mentioned above and others because the science is flawed. In my opinion the DNA hits are 'phoney' ones. If you have studied the case Mr DeAngelo is nothing like the offender people were looking for. He is the wrong height, the wrong age looks nothing like any of the composite sketches etc etc and was not even in right town for the East Area Rapist cases

Ralph Leon Jackson seemed more like a mentally unstable man suffering from cancer and drug or alcohol abuse. Was he in the area? There can be multiple killers or rapists in the same area. I have doubts about Jackson. It's sometimes easier to lump crimes together when they might have different perpetrators. Especially with cold cases.

 

[jaejae]

Ralph Leon Jackson seemed more like a mentally unstable man suffering from cancer and drug or alcohol abuse. Was he in the area? There can be multiple killers or rapists in the same area. I have doubts about Jackson. It's sometimes easier to lump crimes together when they might have different perpetrators. Especially with cold cases.

Thanks for the post. It is probably best not to get involved too much but it is not for me to tell you what to do. That is what people might think about Jackson and in my opinion they are wrong I believe he is the best suspect in the Colonial Parkway Murders but sometimes people just dismiss him as mentally unstable and I would say none of those involved in his arrest and trial thought this was true and tell it to the mother of the lad he shot in the wheelchair. He shot that lad even though he was in a wheelchair to 'eliminate' him and then concentrate on the female victim that is not the act of an unthinking killer. The East Area Rapist liked a beer or two as did the man with a Budweiser T Shirt in Arizona and I would put money on Jackson having a Bull Tattoo which was the emblem of a military unit based out of Norfolk Virginia and I would also bet he was stationed at Mather Airforce base in the 1970s and I am not a betting person. As I say though he is not the best case to get involved with. Also do you really commit your first crime aged 56 and to me it as just an amazing fact he was caught so close to how after committing so many other crimes. He in my view was again amazingly a very mobile killer with a fixed base and he was only always visting other states outside of Virginia. Cheers.

 

[Nadal]

Ralph Leon Jackson seemed more like a mentally unstable man suffering from cancer and drug or alcohol abuse. Was he in the area? There can be multiple killers or rapists in the same area. I have doubts about Jackson. It's sometimes easier to lump crimes together when they might have different perpetrators. Especially with cold cases.

For the record i found out the Ralph Leon Jackson jaejae and me thought was in the military from the 1963 register is not him so that also takes away the military tattoo (which there's no evidence he had anyway) that the VR allegedly had because there's no evidence he was in the military. He most likely wasn't because it would've likely been mentioned in court or in articles. I don't know how i mixed things up but i thought Ralph was born in 1943 meaning he'd have been 19-20 in 1963 but he was actually born in 1953 meaning he was 10 at the time of that military register. The Ralph Leon Jackson in the register was also of the rank of Major in 1963, you don't get that rank until like your late 30s or 40s. The Ralph Leon Jackson Sr i found from Missouri was born in 1926 so he'd have been 37 in 1963, it was likely him. His son Ralph Leon Jackson Jr. is also not "our" RLJ because he was born and died in 1949, again don't know how i missed that. I don't know the story there but my guess is they are uncle and cousin of our RLJ, maybe the Patriarch of the family was called Leon Jackson so that became a common middle name for relatives, that happens in some families including a friend of mines. Regardless there's no evidence Ralph Leon Jackson was ever in the military.

jaejae doesn't want to discuss this and i'm respecting his wishes, just thought you should know since you've been following this too.

 

[Nadal]

a Bull Tattoo which was the emblem of a military unit based out of Norfolk Virginia

Is this what you're talking about - VFA-37 - Wikipedia

So you're claiming he was in the Navy? It was stationed in Virginia Beach for the record, it only deployed from Norfolk once. Regardless there's no evidence he was in the Navy either, just making sure i have the right thing.

I also just found out the bull tattoo on the Visalia Ransacker was described by a child under hypnosis. So yeah i don't even think that claim is credible even if there was evidence of RLJ being in the Navy. He also said it was a black bull with white horns, the one on that insignia has a black bull with black horns, so if you believe the hypnotised child it doesn't match anyway.

 

[jaejae]

I am in favour of criminals being caught but I like it to be the right offender. In my view investigative genetic genealogy has actually misidentified innocent men as suspects in some serious crime cases including the Golden State Killer case and also in the case of Mr Talbott in Washington State where the FBI are aware of the fact there was no valid DNA hit. The argument for the use of genetic genealogy needs to be a balanced one with all the facts known:

DNA Website's Privacy Policy Change Spells End to Cold Case Arrests

 

[jaejae]

I am in favour of criminals being caught but I like it to be the right offender. In my view investigative genetic genealogy has actually misidentified innocent men as suspects in some serious crime cases including the Golden State Killer case and also in the case of Mr Talbott in Washington State where the FBI are aware of the fact there was no valid DNA hit. The argument for the use of genetic genealogy needs to be a balanced one with all the facts known:

DNA Website's Privacy Policy Change Spells End to Cold Case Arrests

Here is another report about genetic genealogy in relation to identifying possible offenders in crime cases. Not sure why April Tinsley would be described as a lady as she was a child who was the victim of a terrible murder:

CeCe Moore, a number one specialist in utilizing DNA proof and household bushes to establish felony suspects — a technique generally known as investigative genetic family tree — is dependent upon GEDmatch for her work. After getting into a suspect’s DNA profile into the positioning, she evaluations the outcomes and assesses the probability of legislation enforcement with the ability to decide the suspect’s identification. She then scores every case from 1 to five, 1 being a positive factor and 5 an extended shot.

“I’m giving much more fives than I used to,” mentioned Moore, who helped clear up a number of circumstances utilizing GEDmatch earlier than the positioning modified its phrases of service, together with the 1987 killing of a younger Canadian couple, the 1988 homicide of an 8-year-old Indiana lady and the 1992 rape and strangulation of a Pennsylvania schoolteacher.

Police had been cracking chilly circumstances with a DNA web site. Then the nice print modified. – 44Post

 

[jaejae]

Here is another report about genetic genealogy in relation to identifying possible offenders in crime cases. Not sure why April Tinsley would be described as a lady as she was a child who was the victim of a terrible murder:

CeCe Moore, a number one specialist in utilizing DNA proof and household bushes to establish felony suspects — a technique generally known as investigative genetic family tree — is dependent upon GEDmatch for her work. After getting into a suspect’s DNA profile into the positioning, she evaluations the outcomes and assesses the probability of legislation enforcement with the ability to decide the suspect’s identification. She then scores every case from 1 to five, 1 being a positive factor and 5 an extended shot.

“I’m giving much more fives than I used to,” mentioned Moore, who helped clear up a number of circumstances utilizing GEDmatch earlier than the positioning modified its phrases of service, together with the 1987 killing of a younger Canadian couple, the 1988 homicide of an 8-year-old Indiana lady and the 1992 rape and strangulation of a Pennsylvania schoolteacher.

Police had been cracking chilly circumstances with a DNA web site. Then the nice print modified. – 44Post

Again I address any lawyers or privacy groups who may be reading this thread and state in my view CeCe Moore and ParaBon labs have actually wrongly identified a number of innocent people as being the offenders in serious crime cases through the use of genetic genealogy and this should be factored into the debate and the campaign by individuals to encourage others to enter their DNA into databases for them to use:

She mentioned she understood why GEDmatch’s house owners made the choice, however the outcome was permitting some violent criminals to stay free for longer than they might have been with the total energy of genetic family tree. She pleaded along with her viewers to take DNA exams and add their profiles into GEDmatch.

“We don’t need this very helpful instrument to slide out of our fingers,” Moore mentioned.

Police had been cracking chilly circumstances with a DNA web site. Then the nice print modified. – 44Post

 

[jaejae]

Here is another article about genetic genealogy and LE access to databases. I want to see serious cases solved but in my view possible misidentifications of innocent men as offenders in serious crime cases needs to be entered into the debate about what access LE should have to peoples DNA and DNA databases:

Cops Can't Solve Cold Cases Because DNA Website Changed Policy

 

[jaejae]

Here is another article about genetic genealogy and LE access to databases. I want to see serious cases solved but in my view possible misidentifications of innocent men as offenders in serious crime cases needs to be entered into the debate about what access LE should have to peoples DNA and DNA databases:

Cops Can't Solve Cold Cases Because DNA Website Changed Policy

Here is part of the above article:

"There are cases that won't get solved or will take longer to solve," Lori Napolitano, the chief of forensic services at the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, told NBC News.

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Cops Can't Solve Cold Cases Because DNA Website Changed Policy

 

[jaejae]

Here is part of the above article:

"There are cases that won't get solved or will take longer to solve," Lori Napolitano, the chief of forensic services at the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, told NBC News.

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Cops Can't Solve Cold Cases Because DNA Website Changed Policy

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As I say if any concerned people are reading my posts LE have in my opinion actually misidentified many innocent people as suspects in these cases and the conviction of Mr Talbott in Washington was a wrongful one because not all the evidence about the DNA was made available during his trial. This and any possible suffering to innocent men and their families in my view needs to be factored into the ethical debate and of course it also has implications on the campaign by LE and genealogists etc to get innocent citizens to enter their DNA into databases they appear to want access to.

 

[Nadal]

the conviction of Mr Talbott in Washington

Why would his defence claim he had consensual sex with her if the DNA was bogus?

Talbott did not testify during the trial, and the jury rejected the suggestion from his lawyers that he had sex with Van Cuylenborg but did not kill her or her boyfriend. It’s still unknown how Talbott encountered the pair.

 

[jaejae]

Why would his defence claim he had consensual sex with her if the DNA was bogus?

Talbott did not testify during the trial, and the jury rejected the suggestion from his lawyers that he had sex with Van Cuylenborg but did not kill her or her boyfriend. It’s still unknown how Talbott encountered the pair.

I actually think it is a very serious situation. My point is that is only the FBI who are aware these genetic genealogy hits are not actual hits. If you think you have a billion to one DNA hit against you then you have to make a a defence if you are lawyers and this was not a good one. A consensual sex defence was never going cut it with a jury and quite rightly. My point is the science is flawed and there is no scientifically valid DNA hit and it is the FBI who know this as in the Golden State Killer case. Thanks

 

[Nadal]

I actually think it is a very serious situation. My point is that is only the FBI who are aware these genetic genealogy hits are not actual hits. If you think you have a billion to one DNA hit against you then you have to make a a defence if you are lawyers and this was not a good one. A consensual sex defence was never going cut it with a jury and quite rightly. My point is the science is flawed and there is no scientifically valid DNA hit and it is the FBI who know this as in the Golden State Killer case. Thanks

How is the science flawed? Please give us specifics mate.

Also the bull tattoo thing is definitely wrong, please address this:

Is this what you're talking about - VFA-37 - Wikipedia

So you're claiming he was in the Navy? It was stationed in Virginia Beach for the record, it only deployed from Norfolk once. Regardless there's no evidence he was in the Navy either, just making sure i have the right thing.

I also just found out the bull tattoo on the Visalia Ransacker was described by a child under hypnosis. So yeah i don't even think that claim is credible even if there was evidence of RLJ being in the Navy. He also said it was a black bull with white horns, the one on that insignia has a black bull with black horns, so if you believe the hypnotised child it doesn't match anyway.

 

[jaejae]

How is the science flawed? Please give us specifics mate.

Also the bull tattoo thing is definitely wrong, please address this:

Is this what you're talking about - VFA-37 - Wikipedia

So you're claiming he was in the Navy? It was stationed in Virginia Beach for the record, it only deployed from Norfolk once. Regardless there's no evidence he was in the Navy either, just making sure i have the right thing.

I also just found out the bull tattoo on the Visalia Ransacker was described by a child under hypnosis. So yeah i don't even think that claim is credible even if there was evidence of RLJ being in the Navy. He also said it was a black bull with white horns, the one on that insignia has a black bull with black horns, so if you believe the hypnotised child it doesn't match anyway.

Sorry we will have to beg to differ as you know and I will never change my conclusions. I do not think this is the best place to discuss it all as at the moment LE state they have an offender in the Golden State Killer case and although I do not think he is the actual offender he has been held for well over a year. I actually think children are good witnesses at times and better than some adults. LE at the time like Larry Crompton felt the girl was a reliable witness. Here is a page at the late Michelle McNamara's crime blog:

The other day a reader got in touch with me with an interesting possibility about the tattoo. What struck him right away, he said, was that tattoos were relatively rare among young people in the 1970s. But they were popular with sailors. In fact, he said, he recalled that the Naval squadron VFA-37 had adopted the Schlitz Malt liquor bull as its mascot.

The unit is based in Norfolk, Virginia, the tipster wrote, but he noted that there’s a major Naval Air Station just west of Visalia (Lemoore), in California. He speculates that the offender was a naval rating working on a flight deck serving the squadron.

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PS. People expect me to be superhuman with knowing how the science is flawed but I suspect it is something to do with the way the Siemen and the processes that are used to make the DNA fit into certain processes.

 

[Nadal]

Okay jaejae, best of luck.

If anyone reads jaejae's posts and even briefly entertains them, please, please PM me and we'll talk about it.

 

[jaejae]

Okay jaejae, best of luck.

If anyone reads jaejae's posts and even briefly entertains them, please, please PM me and we'll talk about it.

Cheers. No need to turn funny. I am right though and one day people will listen to me.

No luck needed its called research and detective work.

 

[Nadal]

Cheers. No need to turn funny. I am right though and one day people will listen to me.

Not trying to be funny i'm being serious, Do you want to debate Ralph Leon Jackson? I'm more than willing to if you are?

 

[Nadal]

If you want to discuss your suspect then send me a message. I'm more than listening to you, i've familiarized myself with your suspect and am willing to discuss him with you.

 

[jaejae]

Here are a couple more reports about the use of genetic genealogy by LE and access to other peoples DNA through databases. As I say it is a serious point to me that the case that inspired LE to use all this genetic genealogy the Golden State Killer case in my view was one where an innocent man was wrongly accused of the crimes:

Should police be able to use DNA databases to solve cold cases?

Advanced DNA testing and Advanced, Open-Minded Approaches to Solving Cold Cases.