VA - (Trigger warning) Explosive allegations made about Fairfax County, VA school system

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So it wasn't a school employee who transported her, but the boyfriend? Huh.

jmo
Yup. but....the social worker make the appointment and arranged payment. (per referenced article).
 
  • #102
Yup. but....the social worker make the appointment and arranged payment. (per referenced article).
What refernced article? Please link or indicate which post. There have been many referenced articles and the conversations are long. Thanks.
 
  • #103
@teeby The article stated the hospital visit was how her guardian found out. Her boyfriend took her to the clinic and hospital. This must have been terrifying for both. My heart goes out to this young girl.
Moo


Second and Third trimester (after 12 weeks) abortions require dilation and evaluation (D and E), pose more complications as pregnancy progresses and additional procedure cost. Heavy bleeding is a common side effect.

I saw that but I thought her parents had met her at the hospital or been contacted by the hospital or something like that -- I don't think they would treat and discharge a child without making contact with her parents/guardian at all? Obviously in an emergency they will just do what needs to be done medically speaking, but when things are a little more stabilized, I have to think they would want to contact the parents, if only to get permission to bill the insurance. I assumed the hospital had learned in that process that the parents/guardian didn't know about the abortion.
 
  • #104
I saw that but I thought her parents had met her at the hospital or been contacted by the hospital or something like that -- I don't think they would treat and discharge a child without making contact with her parents/guardian at all? Obviously in an emergency they will just do what needs to be done medically speaking, but when things are a little more stabilized, I have to think they would want to contact the parents, if only to get permission to bill the insurance. I assumed the hospital had learned in that process that the parents/guardian didn't know about the abortion.
Do you have a link? Thanks.

jmo
 
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  • #106
This is the article that we are discussing
Thank you. There have been several links on the thread so it's difficult to know unless it's specifically referenced.
 
  • #107
What refernced article? Please link or indicate which post. There have been many referenced articles and the conversations are long. Thanks.
The original article I posted.

 
  • #108
This is the article that we are discussing
I had missed the part where the teenage girl "almost died".

She almost died and that Perez and the girl's guardian/uncle didn't contact CPS and authorities I find mindboggeling.
Instead Perez played whac-a-mole with the school for 3 years.
Perez surely didn't have any concern that other girl's lives could also be put in danger.

imo
 
  • #109
Chair Cassidy Demands Answers on Fairfax County School Officials Allegedly Coercing Children to Get Abortions Against Their Will

 
  • #110
Chair Cassidy Demands Answers on Fairfax County School Officials Allegedly Coercing Children to Get Abortions Against Their Will

Whoa - so this is the first we are hearing the abortion was against the student's wishes. The social worker wasn't even there! Teh student's "adult" boyfriend took her!

Those are highly questionable allegations at this point. I've read several interviews given by Ms. Perez and this idea of forced abortion has never before been suggested by anyone. I don't doubt the social worker was trying to help students that came to her with their pregnancy scares. She may have even encouraged abortion as the best outcome. But I don't believe, in these alleged instances, that anyone was forced to do anything.
 
  • #111
I had missed the part where the teenage girl "almost died".

She almost died and that Perez and the girl's guardian/uncle didn't contact CPS and authorities I find mindboggeling.
Instead Perez played whac-a-mole with the school for 3 years.
Perez surely didn't have any concern that other girl's lives could also be put in danger.

imo
I agree that Ms. Perez was not concerned other students were in danger. If she thought there was actual danger, she should have screamed it from the rooftops. That is very different from trying to get the administration to react to your allegations.

I absolutely believe there is a student that had an abortion with the assistance of the social worker. It may not be the only student she has helped obtain an abortion; she may be known to the students for this (total speculation; I don't even believe it).

But Perez clearly wasn't trying to stop it or she would not have taken three years to bring the information to the attention of someone outside the school.

I like to think the social worker did what she thought was best for the student. I know that's naive, but someone please explain to me why she would arrange an abortion for the student if she didn't think that was the option the student wanted? The student that wrote the note claiming to have had an abortion wasn't complaining as far as I could tell - just documenting her statement at Ms. Perez's request, I assume.

I think it's also convenient the student and guardian in question have apparently been deported. I haven't read anything about the currently location of the 2nd student mentioned.
 
  • #112
I know that's naive, but someone please explain to me why she would arrange an abortion for the student if she didn't think that was the option the student wanted?
Humans have a tendency to human fairly often. In short, one does not need to be, say the proverbial religious fundamentalists to start imposing their beliefs on others.

This imposing of beliefs can be done via steered or slanted religious teachings directed at a vulnerable person, or.... steered or slanted say, counseling directed at a vulnerable person.

I have no idea if that occurred here. I am firmly convinced, however, that a human having the profession of 'social worker', or having socio political beliefs "A" instead of say, "B" has the exact same potential to "human" in regards to fairness as anybody else.
 
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  • #113
09.23.2025

'Chair Cassidy Demands Answers on Fairfax County School Officials Allegedly Coercing Children to Get Abortions Against Their Will'​

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Read the full letter here or below:

Dr. Reid:

"I am writing to request information regarding the stunning allegations that school officials at Fairfax County’s Centreville High School arranged and paid for abortions for a minor student and attempted to do the same for another student, all without parental consent. As Chairman of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions (HELP), I am committed to ensuring parents are empowered with timely access to information necessary to protect their children from the threat of serious harm. If these reports are true, they represent a betrayal of Fairfax County parents and families and warrant comprehensive oversight by the HELP Committee to determine how this could have occurred and who must be held accountable.

On August 5, 2025, it was reported that, in 2021, a school social worker at Centreville High School “arranged and bankrolled abortions at Fairfax Healthcare Center without so much as a phone call to [the girls’] parents.”1 One 17-year-old girl ultimately had an abortion, while another student who was five months pregnant fled from the abortion clinic in fear after being pressured to have an abortion.2 Both of these young girls allege that the school social worker, Carolina Diaz, pressured them into having abortions and told one of the girls that she “had no other choice.”3 On top of the already horrific situation of a school official pressuring minor students to obtain abortions, it is alleged that school funds were used to pay for the abortion.4 Let there be no mistake: a school official pressuring minor students to obtain covert abortions using school funding is illegal and, if proven, requires concrete action by your school board to hold the perpetrators accountable.'



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  • #114
I agree that Ms. Perez was not concerned other students were in danger. If she thought there was actual danger, she should have screamed it from the rooftops. That is very different from trying to get the administration to react to your allegations.

I absolutely believe there is a student that had an abortion with the assistance of the social worker. It may not be the only student she has helped obtain an abortion; she may be known to the students for this (total speculation; I don't even believe it).

But Perez clearly wasn't trying to stop it or she would not have taken three years to bring the information to the attention of someone outside the school.

I like to think the social worker did what she thought was best for the student. I know that's naive, but someone please explain to me why she would arrange an abortion for the student if she didn't think that was the option the student wanted? The student that wrote the note claiming to have had an abortion wasn't complaining as far as I could tell - just documenting her statement at Ms. Perez's request, I assume.

I think it's also convenient the student and guardian in question have apparently been deported. I haven't read anything about the currently location of the 2nd student mentioned.
I missed this..where did you read it.
Thanks

"I think it's also convenient the student and guardian in question have apparently been deported. I haven't read anything about the currently location of the 2nd student mentioned."
 
  • #115
Without being too graphic, a 5-months abortion takes several days. Good luck hiding something like that from your parents.
 
  • #116
I missed this..where did you read it.
Thanks

"I think it's also convenient the student and guardian in question have apparently been deported. I haven't read anything about the currently location of the 2nd student mentioned."
Hi! I'm sorry I posted that! 🫣

I have spent the last hour searching for my source and now that I've found it...it turns out it's from a substack for the Fox journalist (Asra Nomani) who is reporting on this story, so it is probably not an authorized source.

Also, now that I've spent the last hour lookingn for it, I realize she has written several articles that don't include that information; it is only on her substack, and is described as an assumption there. So, it's likely no one knows for sure.

I will message you the link to her substack, if you're interested, but as I've said, she hasn't reported that anywhere else so it should be taken with a grain of salt. Every article says, "[t]he student and her guardian couldn’t be reached for comment."
 
  • #117
In Washington state you don’t need a parent’s permission to receive an abortion if you are underage. I am aware of this happening in the 1980’s in California. You get a ride, have the procedure done and tell your folks you are having a bad period and go to bed for a couple days. So is the issue the fact that a counselor assisted her? It seems to me that is where you would go for assistance if you couldn’t go to your parents.

Here is a breakdown by state: Abortion Laws by State - Center for Reproductive Rights
 
  • #118
In Washington state you don’t need a parent’s permission to receive an abortion if you are underage. I am aware of this happening in the 1980’s in California. You get a ride, have the procedure done and tell your folks you are having a bad period and go to bed for a couple days. So is the issue the fact that a counselor assisted her? It seems to me that is where you would go for assistance if you couldn’t go to your parents.

Here is a breakdown by state: Abortion Laws by State - Center for Reproductive Rights
I think the issue in the original allegation is that the school facilitated an abortion without notifying parents, and also some believe the school paid for it. In reality, we have no idea who paid for the alleged abortion. (I use alleged b/c all we have as evidence that one occurred is a written statement by a student who can't be located at this time.)

We have been told, if this happened, the student's boyfriend drove her to the appointment. Even if the social worker orchestrated and paid for everything, I would think the clinic has the final responsibility in following the state laws regarding treatment for children (i.e., under the age of 18). In which case, it would be interesting to see who, if anyone, signed off as guardian. (Edit to add: I realize it is not my business to see this (or any) patient's records, but I assume the investigation will try to determine how the procedure was authorized.)

To be clear, I believe that the social worker probably did facilitate an abortion; I don't believe for a second that school funds paid for it. I also don't believe the SW tried to force a second student to have an abortion at 5 months into her pregnancy. That's where they lost me on this being an ongoing problem at the school.

I think it's great these allegations are being investigated and I am seriously concerned they were not taken seriously by the administration sooner. Any retaliatory actions by the school should be addressed.

MOO
 
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