Bringing this post over from the VT Shooting thread that was closed - post #417
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I totally agree with you, Martha, but wondered if you have any sources that I could check out? I'm very interested in this topic and would love to print out some information for friends and family who don't see anything wrong with young (under 12!!) kids playing videogames that are rated M for Mature!!!
I don't have children of my own, but have friends with young kids and a stepdaughter with young kids - it really bothers me what they allow in their homes, but I feel like I can't say anything without having some facts or something to back up my opinion. Thanks in advance if you have any links to sites or reports or things like that!! :blowkiss:
Well, obviously I have a ton of catching up to do - I'm still back on the closed thread and haven't read any of this new thread yet!!! Dinner's almost done, and LOST is on tonight, I feel like I'll never catch up. :waaah:
Has anyone recommended a separate discussion area for this topic, since there are going to be multiple threads with all the new info coming out? Kind of like we have the ANS Discussion - not sure if there will be any legal issues involved with this tragic event yet, but it would be easier to navigate if it had it's own spot. JMO and a friendly suggestion.
Bringing this post over from the VT Shooting thread that was closed - post #417
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I totally agree with you, Martha, but wondered if you have any sources that I could check out? I'm very interested in this topic and would love to print out some information for friends and family who don't see anything wrong with young (under 12!!) kids playing videogames that are rated M for Mature!!!
I don't have children of my own, but have friends with young kids and a stepdaughter with young kids - it really bothers me what they allow in their homes, but I feel like I can't say anything without having some facts or something to back up my opinion. Thanks in advance if you have any links to sites or reports or things like that!! :blowkiss:
Well, obviously I have a ton of catching up to do - I'm still back on the closed thread and haven't read any of this new thread yet!!! Dinner's almost done, and LOST is on tonight, I feel like I'll never catch up. :waaah:
Has anyone recommended a separate discussion area for this topic, since there are going to be multiple threads with all the new info coming out? Kind of like we have the ANS Discussion - not sure if there will be any legal issues involved with this tragic event yet, but it would be easier to navigate if it had it's own spot. JMO and a friendly suggestion.
I'm confused - you're saying you disagree, but then you say that seeing all this in the media, beat to death all the time, has caused you to be desensitized.... that's what I'm saying, too. I think that very young, impressionable children (under 12, as I said in my earlier post) who play violent video games (and watch violent movies, etc...) are going to be desensitized to it all. I think that's a bad thing.
Oh yes ~ I have been :furious: since last night about this guy and how no one could intervene (like that professor who was disturbed by his writings), like if they did, nothing would be done. And I'm stillabout him being able to buy two guns with a "green card".]]
I'm angry too - I just read a msnbc article quoting a psychologist familiar with a Secret Service Study done in 2002 on school shootings.
This was a classic school shooting. His name is Robert Fein, he says they "are not in high school" but the school should be able to do "better than that!"
There should be a SCHOOL TEAM (adm., teacher, psychologist) equipped to deal with a problem student like this, so he can be identified and steps taken to either help him, contact parents, or expell him if necessary. Depending on the situation, the team would decide what to do.
He says if teachers and students act quickly together the attack can be headed off.
[B]schools should spell out unacceptable behavior; what it is A code of Conduct should be made clear.
That way if it's violated, other students can tell authorities, or teachers will have a reason to remove them from class, etc.Classic School Shooting:
1) They don't "just snap", it's planned, usually in steps
2) They are considered a threat by others, even tho' they may not make an explicit verbal threat
3)Fellow students & teachers raised a concern about the behavior
There needs to be a team that examinges each situation (threats towards girls, for instance)
Marthatex: That kind of language and behavior in a "school play or essay", should be reason to "send him to the team", and flunk the class - since when has that been acceptable for passing grade in a reputable college.
Maybe if student was flunking, parent would be notified.
When I saw the videos where he's talking it doesn't seem like anyone else is in the room, like he's talking to anyone but the camera. From what I'm hearing in interviews from people who knew him, he was aloof and didn't even communicate much with those who lived with him. That would also confirm that he acted alone.
I totally agree with this concept. That's what got me last night when hearing the professor say "there's nothing I could do". Why not? Why was he still at the university if there had been previous problems? I'm tired of this "too little, too late" attitude. Do something before 32 innocent people lose their lives!
Oh yes ~ I have been :furious: since last night about this guy and how no one could intervene (like that professor who was disturbed by his writings), like if they did, nothing would be done. And I'm still
I'm angry too - I just read a msnbc article quoting a psychologist familiar with a Secret Service Study done in 2002 on school shootings.
This was a classic school shooting. His name is Robert Fein, he says they "are not in high school" but the school should be able to do "better than that!"
There should be a SCHOOL TEAM (adm., teacher, psychologist) equipped to deal with a problem student like this, so he can be identified and steps taken to either help him, contact parents, or expell him if necessary. Depending on the situation, the team would decide what to do.
He says if teachers and students act quickly together the attack can be headed off.
[B]schools should spell out unacceptable behavior; what it is A code of Conduct should be made clear.
That way if it's violated, other students can tell authorities, or teachers will have a reason to remove them from class, etc.Classic School Shooting:
1) They don't "just snap", it's planned, usually in steps
2) They are considered a threat by others, even tho' they may not make an explicit verbal threat
3)Fellow students & teachers raised a concern about the behavior
There needs to be a team that examinges each situation (threats towards girls, for instance)
Marthatex: That kind of language and behavior in a "school play or essay", should be reason to "send him to the team", and flunk the class - since when has that been acceptable for passing grade in a reputable college.
Maybe if student was flunking, parent would be notified.
Should you and i have known each other in real life, Martha, we would have been the greatest of friends.
Yes, I stand corrected on that part ~ it was LE who couldn't do anything since he hadn't yet committed a crime. However I do think the university could've done more.
I read it that the boy in the play was just trying to cause problems with his mother and the stepfather. The mother always sided with the son. The son hated his stepfather and thought that he had killed his father.
Anyway, it wasn't really that. It was just the topic of sexual abuse was introduced in both plays--real or alleged. That, coupled with extreme rage, is what jumps out at me.
