Vehicles owned or used by Garrido

[kbl8201]

If you read the link it's not the Molinos but Deepal Karunaratne

sorry i just assumed it was a coninuation of molino.
always dangerous to assume anything i guess

 

[SunnieRN]

I found the article interesting for a couple of reasons.

How did Deepal know pg had "anger issues" and had overcome them?

He asked to work directly with Jaycee as pg's work was unsatisfactory.

He was asked to pick up the family from the airport. Which one? How many people from the "family" and where had they gone? Or if it wasn't a trip, did they bring someone else to the airport?

 

[anthroamy]

I found the article interesting for a couple of reasons.

How did Deepal know pg had "anger issues" and had overcome them?

He asked to work directly with Jaycee as pg's work was unsatisfactory.

He was asked to pick up the family from the airport. Which one? How many people from the "family" and where had they gone? Or if it wasn't a trip, did they bring someone else to the airport?

BBM. From other articles I've read Deepal has been a Garrido customer for a long time, I think 8-10 years. He has said that PG preached to him a lot, and I think that's where overcoming his issues came out.

The other article mentions Concord, and it looks like there is a small airport out there. Do you think it could be that one?

http://ca-contracostacounty.civicplus.com/static/depart/airport/

 

[my2sisters]

BBM. From other articles I've read Deepal has been a Garrido customer for a long time, I think 8-10 years. He has said that PG preached to him a lot, and I think that's where overcoming his issues came out.

The other article mentions Concord, and it looks like there is a small airport out there. Do you think it could be that one?

http://ca-contracostacounty.civicplus.com/static/depart/airport/

Buchanan Airport (Concord) doesn't have any major carriers and hasn't for over 10 years. I learned to fly there.

 

[anthroamy]

Buchanan Airport (Concord) doesn't have any major carriers and hasn't for over 10 years. I learned to fly there.

Weird, maybe the article got it wrong or maybe Deepal isn't that reliable. If I recall he's talked to the press a lot.

 

[i.b.nora]

"He had met Dugard’s children only once when Garrido requested a ride back from the airport for the family on his return from a trip and his car had broken down."

and

"A few months ago Garrido asked him to pick them all up after their car broke down in Concord, a town 15 miles away."

It could be they were on their way back from the Sacramento Airport and their car broke down in Concord.

 

[my2sisters]

Weird, maybe the article got it wrong or maybe Deepal isn't that reliable. If I recall he's talked to the press a lot.

I guess he could have picked up someone flying in on a fixed wing, small aircraft, but I kinda' doubt PG knows those kind of people. :loser:

 

[my2sisters]

"He had met Dugard’s children only once when Garrido requested a ride back from the airport for the family on his return from a trip and his car had broken down."

and

"A few months ago Garrido asked him to pick them all up after their car broke down in Concord, a town 15 miles away."

It could be they were on their way back from the Sacramento Airport and their car broke down in Concord.

If he was in Concord, he most likely would have been coming back from the Oakland or SF airport. He probably would take the eastern route to Sac. from his house. (I think it's Hwy 160)

 

[i.b.nora]

Yeah, you are right, more likely Oakland or San Francisco. I was thinking that Sacramento is closer than it actually is to Antioch area. Had to look at a map.

 

[anthroamy]

I guess he could have picked up someone flying in on a fixed wing, small aircraft, but I kinda' doubt PG knows those kind of people. :loser:

Very true.

If you look at the quote (BBM):
"He had met Dugard’s children only once when Garrido requested a ride back from the airport for the family on his return from a trip and his car had broken down."

I didn't notice this until just now, but it sounds like Garrido was coming back from somewhere, and the family was there at the airport to pick him up, then the car broke down on the way back with all of them in it. Where the heck did he go, if this is the case?

 

[time]

Very true.

If you look at the quote (BBM):
"He had met Dugard’s children only once when Garrido requested a ride back from the airport for the family on his return from a trip and his car had broken down."

I didn't notice this until just now, but it sounds like Garrido was coming back from somewhere, and the family was there at the airport to pick him up, then the car broke down on the way back with all of them in it. Where the heck did he go, if this is the case?

I wonder if that had to be a quite a while ago because in one interview he says he even talked with his wife about how Jaycee never called Phillip Dad or by his name or anything. On one news clip site it says Phillip worked for him? He also says they were or he was around his children over at his house (I'd have to listen again)
http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist/ITN/2009/08/29/T29080903/?v=0&a=1


I get the feeling Garrido probably just lied and wasn't coming back from any airport?

 

[kbl8201]

Very true.

If you look at the quote (BBM):
"He had met Dugard’s children only once when Garrido requested a ride back from the airport for the family on his return from a trip and his car had broken down."

I didn't notice this until just now, but it sounds like Garrido was coming back from somewhere, and the family was there at the airport to pick him up, then the car broke down on the way back with all of them in it. Where the heck did he go, if this is the case?

possibly the san fran trip this winter?

 

[anthroamy]

Today I spoke with two people that I worked with on the dig across from People's Park this summer. Both said Garrido was familiar, but no one remembered a red Volkswagen or anything else specific.

One even said that she's thought from the very first day she saw him on the news that she thought he'd come by the dig, but that he didn't say much.

 

[SunnieRN]

BBM. From other articles I've read Deepal has been a Garrido customer for a long time, I think 8-10 years. He has said that PG preached to him a lot, and I think that's where overcoming his issues came out.

The other article mentions Concord, and it looks like there is a small airport out there. Do you think it could be that one?

http://ca-contracostacounty.civicplus.com/static/depart/airport/

Don't really like the thought, but if you were trying to traffic children, you would want to use a small airport with private planes, vs commercial flights and airlines. Just a thought.

 

[pedropete]

With help from PedroPete in the question & answer thread I was able to find these two old articles:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...irl-with-a-smile-for-her-captors-clients.html

A few months ago Garrido asked him to pick them all up after their car broke down in Concord, a town 15 miles away.

This seems to be another version of the same story:

http://www.indiajournal.com/pages/event.php?id=8311

He had met Dugard’s children only once when Garrido requested a ride back from the airport for the family on his return from a trip and his car had broken down.


I think the other article had him borrowing a friend's car 5 months prior to his arrest, and this seems to corroborate that. Maybe he got the Volkswagen shortly after?

These are interesting links. Deepal K. obviously picked them up because he says he met the children only on that occasion. I'm pretty sure I read that Molino refused him. Might have been a different time. Or maybe Garrido rang around to find someone willing. The Molino thread has largely gone now.
Deepal K. says he has met Jaycee but it's not clear if she was present when he picked Garrido up this time. The Telegraph article says he picked "them all up". I wonder if that "all" included Jaycee.
Deepal K. says that Jaycee and the girls were seen together at the supermarket with Nancy. I think that's the first I've read of Jaycee and the girls being out together.
The India article says "The only odd thing they (Deepal and his wife) noticed was that she addressed Garrido as "Dad" or by any other name." I think they meant to put she did NOT address him as Dad or any other name. I think Cheyvonne Molino also commented once that Jaycee never called PG "Dad". Although Jaycee played along with Garrido in calling herself a sister to her girls or daughter to Garrido she could not bring herself to call him Dad.

I think it's pretty clear that by the end Jaycee had come to fully accept the life she'd been forced into. She clearly could have left any time in the later years. And it seems already this is a real problem for her now that she's out of that cocoon she was in and is seeing the world from a different perspective. Jaycee will now have become acutely aware of the pain and misery her family have endured, not the least the breakup of Terry and Carl's marriage. Unfortunately, Jaycee seems to easily blame herself for things. It seems part of her nature. She blames herself for bonding with Garrido. And probably blames herself for not leaving before she was found. It seems awful to me that the girl who never asked to be forcibly ripped away from her family and abused for years should let these abusers go on hurting her after she is free of them, but I fear Jaycee will have big trouble resolving these guilt feelings. I feel for her.
But I should not get too far off topic.

 

[anthroamy]

She clearly could have left any time in the later years.

Respectfully snipped by me. I have to disagree with you here. I don't think she could have left for a number of reasons, the main one being that Garrido would never have let her take the children with her, and she wouldn't have left them behind.

ETA: Also, the one of the charges is false imprisonment by violence, and the dates are June 10, 1991 through August 26, 2009.

 

[kbl8201]

These are interesting links. Deepal K. obviously picked them up because he says he met the children only on that occasion. I'm pretty sure I read that Molino refused him. Might have been a different time. Or maybe Garrido rang around to find someone willing. The Molino thread has largely gone now.
Deepal K. says he has met Jaycee but it's not clear if she was present when he picked Garrido up this time. The Telegraph article says he picked "them all up". I wonder if that "all" included Jaycee.
Deepal K. says that Jaycee and the girls were seen together at the supermarket with Nancy. I think that's the first I've read of Jaycee and the girls being out together.
The India article says "The only odd thing they (Deepal and his wife) noticed was that she addressed Garrido as "Dad" or by any other name." I think they meant to put she did NOT address him as Dad or any other name. I think Cheyvonne Molino also commented once that Jaycee never called PG "Dad". Although Jaycee played along with Garrido in calling herself a sister to her girls or daughter to Garrido she could not bring herself to call him Dad.

I think it's pretty clear that by the end Jaycee had come to fully accept the life she'd been forced into. She clearly could have left any time in the later years. And it seems already this is a real problem for her now that she's out of that cocoon she was in and is seeing the world from a different perspective. Jaycee will now have become acutely aware of the pain and misery her family have endured, not the least the breakup of Terry and Carl's marriage. Unfortunately, Jaycee seems to easily blame herself for things. It seems part of her nature. She blames herself for bonding with Garrido. And probably blames herself for not leaving before she was found. It seems awful to me that the girl who never asked to be forcibly ripped away from her family and abused for years should let these abusers go on hurting her after she is free of them, but I fear Jaycee will have big trouble resolving these guilt feelings. I feel for her.
But I should not get too far off topic.

i think if she had never had the girls she would have had a better chance to escape. imo once the girls were born she was stuck........she didnt want to leave without them and she was about to leave them with garrido.
i think she did blame herself for not escaping. but i think judging by what we are seeing and hearing about her family life now, her family is showing her how much that isnt true and how much they love her. jmo

 

[SunnieRN]

I also think Terry and the psychologists and health professionals will be able to help Jaycee deal with any guilt she is feeling. Hindsight bites us all sometimes.

 

[kbl8201]

I also think Terry and the psychologists and health professionals will be able to help Jaycee deal with any guilt she is feeling. Hindsight bites us all sometimes.

yes.
i think jaycee's words in here people magazine statement "there's nothing like the support and unconditional love of my family' show how much she has progressed so far from the day she was found.....

 

[pedropete]

I also think Terry and the psychologists and health professionals will be able to help Jaycee deal with any guilt she is feeling. Hindsight bites us all sometimes.

I truly hope so. And just think ... the people who've caused all this grief and guilt don't have any guilt at all and never have. Couldn't you boil them alive. I could.