Verdict: GUILTY!

[snoofer]

wonders if and who gave MTR the paper this morning...i hope it was a guard! MOO

 

[Bravo]

I think he was banking on that imhoo

(I still am perplexed at the absolutely weak case put on by the defense.. I mean one witness? Didn't even attempt to challenge the forensics, etc)

I had thought the same Nurse. Until yesterday. Now seeing what Derstine what able to keep out of the Courtroom I think he got an incredible Defense.

 

[CarrieBean]

wonders if and who gave MTR the paper this morning...i hope it was a guard! MOO

Has anyone ever died from a paper cut?

 

[SFB73]

I think he was banking on that imhoo

(I still am perplexed at the absolutely weak case put on by the defense.. I mean one witness? Didn't even attempt to challenge the forensics, etc)

Gerry Spence successfully defended Randy Weaver in the Ruby Ridge Case and did so by not even calling a single witness and shooting holes in the prosecutions case... Hopefully DD wasnt as convincing as Gerry, but the cases were also totally different and one is an example of a person getting railroaded by the govt and the other is one of sick and twisted individuals.

 

[brighidin]

Slightly O/T, but:

Heeney reminds me of the judge in Manitoba that called a rapist a "clumsy Don Juan" who got mixed signals because the victim was wearing a tube top and makeup.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2011/11/30/mb-don-juan-rapist-appeals-manitoba.html

 

[matou]

‏ @TheLC_75 McClintic describing when #Rafferty kicked Tori, how hard he kicked her "like he booted her"

 

[Kamille]

I'm pretty sure that Heeny designated the computers as a place not a thing, and that is why he said LE needed a separate warrant. I know it was in the Globe article from yesterday. I will look again.

Here:
"Put simply, a computer or personal electronic device can no longer be viewed as a “thing,” Mr. Justice Thomas Heeney ruled, in rejecting the Crown’s bid to have the contents of Mr. Rafferty’s laptop admitted as evidence.

Rather, he said, recent case law holds that because a computer can contain huge amounts of personal information – e-mails, bank records, memos, documents, photos – it should be regarded as a “place,” akin to a house."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...deo-found-on-raffertys-laptop/article2429175/

Except he was applying a precedent that had been established after Rafferty's arrest, so IMO, his decision is faulty.

How many times did they retry Guy Paul Morin and he was innocent. I think there are grounds for an appeal but the real fear here is that they come back with a lesser charge IMO.

MOO

 

[~n/t~]

Has anyone ever died from a paper cut?

OMG! That made me LOL!!

 

[Oldsoul2]

How many times did they retry Guy Paul Morin and he was innocent. I think there are grounds for an appeal but the real fear here is that they come back with a lesser charge IMO.

MOO

He has 3 charges all yielding 25 years

 

[Flossie JMO]

I have a feeling that if they use the tree he will be charged with 2nd degree murder. argh

JMO I worry that will be the max he'll get, hope I am wrong,again JMO

 

[nursebeeme]

I had thought the same Nurse. Until yesterday. Now seeing what Derstine what able to keep out of the Courtroom I think he got an incredible Defense.

what about in the eyes of the jury.. they saw him only call one witness (and a shakey one at that imhoo) and than give a crazy hypothetical in his closing argument.

(I totally agree what he got kicked out was a feat and aided his defense but what the jury sees is what is in the courtroom)

 

[Sailor Bug]

Hey Mike, great idea posting link to the decision trees...it is absolutely critical for the jury to help them reach a verdict objectively under the law with the evidence they were presented with. Remember...they are all just like us as "laypersons" in terms of the legal system. gives all of us an idea of what kind of discussions they will be having following the charts. thanks for your great coverage.

Mike Knoll: @guest - thanks. I was trying to make sense of them last night and found them far more complex than I anticipated. I don't envy the jurors at all. Here they are again for those curious: http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/raffertytrial/2012/05/10/19743771.html

yeah I can't right now! Still reeling from reading all the #Rafferty evidence that was left out!

#rafferty should have everything done to him that he has done himself. #guilty

 

[Wondergirl]

.James Armstrong ‏ @jamesarmstrong7

Rafferty is watching the interrogation video from his prisoner's box. Barely moving, he's wearing a three-piece suit. #Rafferty

 

[Flossie JMO]

Was the BB on his person when he was arrested, or was it in his car?

Perhaps he voluntarilly turned over his phone? If he thought it was "clean"

If it was on his person they would have needed a separate warrant to search that.

From what I heard in the community shortly after his arrest was that the most damning evidence would never get in due to the search warrant issue and the changing laws...[/QUOTE]

bbm, well ya

 

[Yody04]

‏ @TheLC_75 McClintic describing when #Rafferty kicked Tori, how hard he kicked her "like he booted her"

I agree with Rodney: I want this guy to fry. I never thought I would be able to this kind of feelings BUT Dear Lord: what can be worse than that?

 

[Sailor Bug]

Comment From Me Me : ] Randy
http://www.lfpress.com/video/search...mcclintic-2009-police-interview/1524883096001

ToriStafford murder trial jury wants to rewatch video evidence http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/tori-stafford-murder-trial-jury-wants-to-rewatch-video-evidence-1

I hope #toristafford 's family gets some peace soon. The jury needs to hurry up with their verdict. #guiltyguiltyguilty

Follow Laura Carney's tweets from the #Rafferty trial on 570News: http://www.570news.com/news/nationa...ury-deliberation-on-hold#.T60qdcSuWbQ.twitter

Rafferty jury asked to view McClintic police interview. Just about finished. Over an hour long. Details on @CTVKitchener at 12.

Det. Smyth asks McClintic why she is telling him what happened. She says because she knows Tori was just left there. #Rafferty

 

[Bravo]

Has anyone ever died from a paper cut?

ROFLMAO I needed that. The tension!!!!!! Pacing here. In and out of the house. Coffee. More coffee. Is it noon hour yet? LOL

 

[CarrieBean]

.James Armstrong ‏ @jamesarmstrong7

Rafferty is watching the interrogation video from his prisoner's box. Barely moving, he's wearing a three-piece suit. #Rafferty

A one piece suit would suit him much better.

 

[elepher50]

Wonder if Rafferty is sweating even a little bit in the prisioner's box.

 

[nursebeeme]

ROFLMAO I needed that. The tension!!!!!! Pacing here. In and out of the house. Coffee. More coffee. Is it noon hour yet? LOL

oh geez... I forgot that the jury needs to eat lunch....