Victim: Jessica Taylor, 20, found Manorville July 2003 & Gilgo Beach Mar 2011

  • #301
I've been reading through some old posts and now wondering:

TS... Were you just ?guessing/story-telling/speculating? re: the BBM part? Or does an old news report exist about a bloody murder in a cheap Riverhead motel??

And, to anyone... What would be the closest hotels to where the first of JT's body parts were found?

My recent foray into the old threads led me to that post by TS. A couple of posts after it TS admits he was being sarcastic. Apparently there is a prison in Riverhead and TS was trying to work it into his (at that time) developing CPH investigation. He just did a bit of off-the-cuff theorizing with the "Riverhead Hotel" post.

IMHO
 
  • #302
Periodically I try to search for some type of connection between victims... possibly family/friend relationships. Currently, I'm stuck (and somewhat perplexed) with regard to someone in JT's family, as well as a possible connection to Westhampton NY. I could be headed in the wrong direction, soooo... if anyone is able to search ancestry and help me out I'd surely appreciate it!

Ive always wondered if Jessica was dumped on the way back from the hamptons. Wasnt she found just after july 4 weekend?
 
  • #303
I went back and did some reading in the old threads. I haven't yet been able to find anything specific to back-up my prior claim. TS did contribute quite a bit to the JT thread though and poking through it I learned again something I had forgotten. The baby was found close to JT (not close to his/her own mother).

I've been under the impression that it was the other manorville victim the child was found in close proximity, the one from 2000. NamUs UP # 9680. I could be wrong.
 
  • #304
I've been under the impression that it was the other manorville victim the child was found in close proximity, the one from 2000. NamUs UP # 9680. I could be wrong.

You may well be right, and I may well be wrong. I went back and checked and found the post where I got that info (Truthspider post #1052).

"The toddler is now connected to Jane Dough #6 from Manorville, but was placed next to Jessica Taylor from Manorville connecting for us at least both sets of Manorville victims. Manorville set #1 from 2000 was a male and female, and set #2 from 2003 was a male and female. In both cases the females were dismembered while the males were not."

I was just repeating something someone said in a post, so, I will stand down. What I was getting at was that the child, (whose mother's body was also found) was not only not with his/her own mother, but near another body. That is really odd. It would be nice to think they are together now.
 
  • #305
You may well be right, and I may well be wrong. I went back and checked and found the post where I got that info (Truthspider post #1052).

"The toddler is now connected to Jane Dough #6 from Manorville, but was placed next to Jessica Taylor from Manorville connecting for us at least both sets of Manorville victims. Manorville set #1 from 2000 was a male and female, and set #2 from 2003 was a male and female. In both cases the females were dismembered while the males were not."

I was just repeating something someone said in a post, so, I will stand down. What I was getting at was that the child, (whose mother's body was also found) was not only not with his/her own mother, but near another body. That is really odd. It would be nice to think they are together now.

I haven't went back and looked at what might have gave ts the impression that the toddler was related to JD#6, perhaps it was this article where spota says

The eighth body belonged to a toddler, likely a girl, Mr. Spota said. Her body was found wrapped in a blanket with no obvious signs of trauma.

While the toddler was found only 250 feet away from Jane Doe No. 6, there is no indication so far that they are connected,” Mr. Spota said, suggesting that different people placed the remains there.

It does not make sense to us that the person would go to such great lengths to prevent Jane Doe No. 6 from being identified, then lay the body of a related toddler so close by,” he said. “There is no evidence at all of any attempt to conceal the identity of the child.

what does he mean by related? to JD#6? to the case in general?

Maybe this was before it was determined that the toddler was related to the remains found in Nassau, IDk, my head is spinning.

here's the article
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/10/nyregion/authorities-identify-a-fifth-li-victim.html?pagewanted=all
 
  • #306
Sorry your head is spinning. You actually cleared things up for me. I think you are absolutely correct that TS's post was based on the article you linked that quotes Spota. Very well done. They even use similar terms.

But the TS post got it wrong on two counts: the toddler was not nearest to JT, nor was the toddler "next to" anyone (at least not the way I interpret "next to").

As far as what Spota is talking about, my interpretation is that he is saying that different people placed the remains of JD#6 and the toddler. Because whoever placed JD#6 took "great lengths" to hide the identity, whereas no such lengths were taken with the toddler. Spota's use of the term "related" may have led to the confusion. He is talking about the killer/s of those two victims not being "related/connected" to each other (as in, more than one killer). And not about the two victims being "related/connected" to each other.

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  • #307
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The woman with the red dot above her head is Jessica Taylor. It looks like KW was smart enough to either remove or restrict the photograph of JT on all fours in a g-string alongside another young woman. If treating a woman like that isn't love, then well, I don't know what is.

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  • #308
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The woman with the red dot above her head is Jessica Taylor. It looks like KW was smart enough to either remove or restrict the photograph of JT on all fours in a g-string alongside another young woman. If treating a woman like that isn't love, then well, I don't know what is.


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BBM... I can still see that photo.
 
  • #309
BBM... I can still see that photo.


Oh yeah? He had two profiles on MySpace and one of them appears to be set to private now.


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  • #310
Oh yeah? He had two profiles on MySpace and one of them appears to be set to private now.


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I'm just using the link TF provided on previous page of this thread. Give it a try
 
  • #311
I think there's plenty more all these pimps could tell but they never do :(
 
  • #312
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The woman with the red dot above her head is Jessica Taylor. It looks like KW was smart enough to either remove or restrict the photograph of JT on all fours in a g-string alongside another young woman. If treating a woman like that isn't love, then well, I don't know what is.

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Yes, that looks like her. I've never seen that photo before. Poor Jessica.
 
  • #313
Yes, that looks like her. I've never seen that photo before. Poor Jessica.


Agreed. It's a sad thing. But on another note, just how strong of a "pimp" was KW? I mean, the three black girls on the right look absolutely awful. That was his talent? Not to be cruel or demeaning, but really. The two white girls (Jessica and ?) look okay. But who would pay to be with the other ones? I guess there's always a sucker out there, right?


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  • #314
Agreed. It's a sad thing. But on another note, just how strong of a "pimp" was KW? I mean, the three black girls on the right look absolutely awful. That was his talent? Not to be cruel or demeaning, but really. The two white girls (Jessica and ?) look okay. But who would pay to be with the other ones? I guess there's always a sucker out there, right?


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I hate to say it but they prob were getting $20 for a bj so I wouldn't be shocked to find out a lot of guys would.

I get the impression JT group were more street walkers then actual escorts who have a little more quality.
 
  • #315
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The woman with the red dot above her head is Jessica Taylor. It looks like KW was smart enough to either remove or restrict the photograph of JT on all fours in a g-string alongside another young woman. If treating a woman like that isn't love, then well, I don't know what is.

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I've seen this picture before and I've seen the g-string one and I agree this is her in this picture. I think its her in both pictures.
 
  • #316
And I'll add that I think that if JT pimp is in any way involved with all these murders the best bet is trying to see how we could connect him to MB because she is the only other one who was a street walker at one time. Could maybe have something to do with how personal things go regarding MB. idk maybe I'm way off. just an idea.
 
  • #317
And I'll add that I think that if JT pimp is in any way involved with all these murders the best bet is trying to see how we could connect him to MB because she is the only other one who was a street walker at one time. Could maybe have something to do with how personal things go regarding MB. idk maybe I'm way off. just an idea.


MB wasn't really a "streetwalker" though. She had a boyfriend who pimped her out. I believe she also posted ads online. My pointing out KW's low quality women, along with the fact he talks/types like someone who has suffered several major head injuries, is because if he really is that dumb then I doubt he really could have ever evolved into a big-time player in the sex trade in Brooklyn. Therefore I doubt he had anything directly to do with JT's murder.


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  • #318
MB wasn't really a "streetwalker" though. She had a boyfriend who pimped her out. I believe she also posted ads online. My pointing out KW's low quality women, along with the fact he talks/types like someone who has suffered several major head injuries, is because if he really is that dumb then I doubt he really could have ever evolved into a big-time player in the sex trade in Brooklyn. Therefore I doubt he had anything directly to do with JT's murder.


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Right. I know what ya mean MB wasn't an actual street walker. From what I took away from everything was she started off on the streets with her pimp/bf then was trying to branch out on her own with out him.

I personally don't think KW had anything to do with anything other then just being the sketchy human that he is. Actually I don't think any of the pimps have anything to do with the murders other then helping the girls set them self's up to be murdered.
 
  • #319
I wish there was a missing escort site. I mean none of the missing persons really says if they were escorting on bp. It would be so easy for this guy to just switch up his dumping grounds.
 
  • #320
I personally don't think KW had anything to do with anything other then just being the sketchy human that he is.


Agreed.



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