Victim "Peaches" IDd as Tanya Denise Jackson, and toddler IDd as Tatiana Marie Dykes, found Hempstead Lake State Park, June 1997 #4

Where is the full torso picture autopsy?
There is no picture of her torso released publicly. The only pictures are of the tattoo detail, the container, and the other items found with her such as the pillowcase.
Where the pictures of the arms and legs?
Her limbs were completely skeletonised when found, as it had been over a decade. There is no publicity available photo of them.

MOO
 
There is no picture of her torso released publicly. The only pictures are of the tattoo detail, the container, and the other items found with her such as the pillowcase.

Her limbs were completely skeletonised when found, as it had been over a decade. There is no publicity available photo of them.

MOO
There would have to be some extraordinary reason for showing the mutilated torso of this young woman. The last thing one would want is for her remains to be further desecrated.

That said, her killer must be identified.

IMHO
 
@LISKinvestigator_9945 If I am not mistaken, most unidentified or deceased persons only have photos of identifiable characteristics. ie. A tattoo or a recognizable face. And even then, this is not always the case. There are many NamUs profiles stating the individual has a recognizable face and still they will not upload a photo. Photos at the scene and also during autopsy are taken by the ME ONLY iirc. This keeps the chain of command easy to follow and also keeps the images secure.

Famously, officers on site of Kobe's fatal helicopter crash took photos with their cellphone and the leaked images (plus TMZ)is how his wife was notified of their passing prior to Officers coming to her door. (She successfully sued LADP if I remember that correctly) and even more recently a video of the abhorrent graphic SA & murder of Mahogany Jackson was being circulated online, one guy even now is willing to send you the video of you subscribe to his patreon! This one went so viral in the state and on the apps, that Jefferson County's District Attorney made a public appeal to stop sharing the video. Jefferson County’s DA pleading with public not share out of respect to family

The earliest incident of this phenomenon that I can recall is the car accident of Nikki Catsouras, which has its own wiki page: Nikki Catsouras Photographs Conroversy

Anyways, all of this was to emphasize that this sort of thing happens way too often, especially now in this digital age. Thankfully Law Enforcement and Medical Examiners are aware of this phenomenon.

But that is not their focus. They are primarily focused on identification and solving this case. Thus, out of respect for the individual and the families involved they will only release information that can help identify her. An autopsy photo of her torso would not aid their search whatsoever. The tattoo however will.

BTW it did help! It led to finding out who the tattoo artist was and some further information came out of officers having a discussion with the artist regarding leads/tips to further their search in identification!

Sorry for the novel. I hope this clarifies why such a photo isn't publicly available and I hope it explains the unfortunate circumstances in which some photos are.
 
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l to r: 2 inch peach/heart tattoo on left breast; Rubbermaid container held torso of black female; floral pillowcase and red towel also found inside container

Hempstead Lake State Pk, Lakeview
Nassau County, NY

28 June 1997

West side of Lakeside Drive, 200 yards north of Peninsula Boulevard, Hempstead Lake State Park. -- Black female torso. Arms, head, and legs below the knee severed, found in green Rubbermaid container, with red towel and floral pillow sham, 16-30 years old.

She had an abdominal scar from a cesarean section and a tattoo of a peach in the shape of a heart with a bite taken out of it and two drips falling from its core on her left breast.

Dead up to three days.

"With no leads to the womans identity, the police published a picture of the approximately two-inch wide tattoo in a national tattoo magazine, in the hopes of finding the artist who did the work. They received a call from a man in Connecticut who claimed he remembered giving the tattoo to a woman.

The artist said he remembered the customer as a young black woman, about 18 or 19 years old, who was accompanied by two women, an aunt and a cousin. During the session, he also claimed she told him she was from either the Bronx or Long Island and that she was in Connecticut because having trouble with her boyfriend at the time. It is possible the woman had other tattoos on her arms or lower legs that the killer did not want found." (Doe Network)

'They call her Peaches,' Nassau County Medical Examiner Eric Smith says of his law enforcement colleagues, as he thumbs through photographs of unidentified bodies in the back room of the county morguesome battered, swollen faces, others clay reproductions with glass eyes.

Her official name is U-037859772."

"A scar on the womans lower abdomen showed she had given birth by Cesarean."

"An autopsy revealed she had been dead no more than three days when she was found." (LI Press)


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Something I wonder from the tattoo is the appearance of what appears to be letters or some such similar shapes on the left leaf. They don’t appear to match or resemble the notable characteristics of regular peach tree leaves, like the veins or projections we see come off of them. I recall other commenters mentioning they noticed the shapes too and some also perceived the shapes to be letters too. I wonder if the tattoo artists recalls what these shapes are, why they were added and if they were included as part of the signature of the artist himself or were they added due to a special request by Peaches herself? If it is the latter, I wonder if the tattoo artists recalls what the significance of the addition was to her? For example, were they her initials, the initials of a loved one, a place or town she considered home or were the shapes supposed to look like something or someone important to her? Perhaps if the figures on the left leaf are indeed intentional and could provide more insight into who Peaches was as a person and people/things that were important to her or beloved, it could further lead to the discovery of her identification, and thereby hopefully her daughter as well, directly or to family members, friends or place that could lead to this insight?



I also wonder due to the presence of the pillowcase and towel found with the remains if at the time of their horrific murders, if Peaches and her daughter were in their own home or residence at the time or rather than seeing at client at the time, if Peaches was unfortunately misled by the perp to believe he was moving them to another location to call home, such as his own place or another residence he procured for them, and that Peaches packed hers and her daughter’s belongings while under the false that they would be safe and with the promise the move would be in the best interest and to a better home? Perhaps there were more belongings and evidence, including perhaps a backpack, suitcase or car seat, that was present at the time the crime were tragically carried out and then were later disposed of in a nearby dump or landfill?

If not, I wonder if that any landlords, sub-letters, renters or those managing any nearby hotels or motels on LI or the Bronx, at the time of Peaches and her daughter’s disappearances and murder recall not be able to get in touch with the person/persons renting or residing in their apartment or hotel/motel room and later finding the room supposedly abandoned but with the previous residents’ belongings, such as clothes, toys, food, bags, pictures, phone books, diaries, official documents, still inside? If so, do they recall what they did with said belongings afterwards or was any type of record of the items and their owners created or complaint filed at the time? Perhaps such records or memories could help LE narrow down possible identities for Peaches and her daughter, neighbors or friends who could give more insight into their lives and perhaps help trace their possible movements leading up to their terrible murders, possible POIs and locations or people they may want to interview to further help get justice for the both of them and to provide answers to any concerned loved one who have been looking for them?

Just my own thoughts or theories
Of course could be wrong or irrelevant if LE has already tried or ruled these possibilities and I just wasn’t aware at this time
 
No the family
I wonder if this could be peaches and her daughter (she was pregnant at the time, and yes, she was 12)

Mays, I don't believe is Peaches, Her family was involved in a type of church cult there was a question if Mays father got his daughter pregnant.
 
There is no picture of her torso released publicly. The only pictures are of the tattoo detail, the container, and the other items found with her such as the pillowcase.

Her limbs were completely skeletonised when found, as it had been over a decade. There is no publicity available photo of them.

MOO
I see, when her arms and legs were found was her hands and feet also found in the same trash bag?
 
No the family

Mays, I don't believe is Peaches, Her family was involved in a type of church cult there was a question if Mays father got his daughter pregnant.
That is incorrect. Celina claimed it was a teen boy that was not outside of the family and church group. But there are rumors it was a cousin : "Authorities responded by announcing they have no information concerning Celina's child's father and statements made by others were purely speculation, although it has been rumored that one of Celina's cousins fathered her child."

Her father CJ Mays supposedly had a vasectomy : "In an effort to prevent certain rumors from spreading out of control, Mays submitted to the police that he had gotten a vasectomy years before. His doctor confirmed this."
 
Am wondering if RH didn't do work on landfill projects which seem to have been in planning and underway in LI in the late 80s and 90s. There was a closed landfill right by (and I mean really, really close) to where Sandra Costilla was found. They were moving towards converting some of that into a transfer station around the time of her murder. There was a landfill in Merrick/Hempstead 8 mins from where Peaches was found, very near Freeport, and since it's Merrick, I would assume close to the house where his father had lived as a child. That landfill had closed I believe in mid-80s (sources vary) and been dormant for dissipation of methane/various gases. They started planning a park there which was finished in 2000. And to make this park, they dug out a pond and they also had to pour in tons (I'm guessing literally) of topsoil. Peaches was found in '97, they'd have been working on this park right around that time. I can't see how RH would be unaware of these projects.
 
Something I wonder from the tattoo is the appearance of what appears to be letters or some such similar shapes on the left leaf. They don’t appear to match or resemble the notable characteristics of regular peach tree leaves, like the veins or projections we see come off of them. I recall other commenters mentioning they noticed the shapes too and some also perceived the shapes to be letters too. I wonder if the tattoo artists recalls what these shapes are, why they were added and if they were included as part of the signature of the artist himself or were they added due to a special request by Peaches herself? If it is the latter, I wonder if the tattoo artists recalls what the significance of the addition was to her? For example, were they her initials, the initials of a loved one, a place or town she considered home or were the shapes supposed to look like something or someone important to her? Perhaps if the figures on the left leaf are indeed intentional and could provide more insight into who Peaches was as a person and people/things that were important to her or beloved, it could further lead to the discovery of her identification, and thereby hopefully her daughter as well, directly or to family members, friends or place that could lead to this insight?



I also wonder due to the presence of the pillowcase and towel found with the remains if at the time of their horrific murders, if Peaches and her daughter were in their own home or residence at the time or rather than seeing at client at the time, if Peaches was unfortunately misled by the perp to believe he was moving them to another location to call home, such as his own place or another residence he procured for them, and that Peaches packed hers and her daughter’s belongings while under the false that they would be safe and with the promise the move would be in the best interest and to a better home? Perhaps there were more belongings and evidence, including perhaps a backpack, suitcase or car seat, that was present at the time the crime were tragically carried out and then were later disposed of in a nearby dump or landfill?

If not, I wonder if that any landlords, sub-letters, renters or those managing any nearby hotels or motels on LI or the Bronx, at the time of Peaches and her daughter’s disappearances and murder recall not be able to get in touch with the person/persons renting or residing in their apartment or hotel/motel room and later finding the room supposedly abandoned but with the previous residents’ belongings, such as clothes, toys, food, bags, pictures, phone books, diaries, official documents, still inside? If so, do they recall what they did with said belongings afterwards or was any type of record of the items and their owners created or complaint filed at the time? Perhaps such records or memories could help LE narrow down possible identities for Peaches and her daughter, neighbors or friends who could give more insight into their lives and perhaps help trace their possible movements leading up to their terrible murders, possible POIs and locations or people they may want to interview to further help get justice for the both of them and to provide answers to any concerned loved one who have been looking for them?

Just my own thoughts or theories
Of course could be wrong or irrelevant if LE has already tried or ruled these possibilities and I just wasn’t aware at this time
That's not letters in the tattoo it is a very poorly done tattoo with an attempt at color shading.
 
That's not letters in the tattoo it is a very poorly done tattoo with an attempt at color shading.
We have so little to work with. Every sign points to that LE may know a lot more, thankfully.

The three unidentified have really gotten under my skin. I wish I could contribute somehow - if I had the means I would donate a sizeable amount to Othram. I can’t stop thinking about the three and their families.
 
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