Victim "Peaches" IDd as Tanya Denise Jackson, and toddler IDd as Tatiana Marie Dykes, found Hempstead Lake State Park, June 1997 #4

[chetlemouge]

LE seized newspaper articles from his residence and NYC office about some of the LISK's victims .
Did they seize anything about Peaches & Baby Doe?

The answer to this question is yes, and you have to wonder if it was intentional by the prosecution or an accidental slip that they know he likely murdered Tanya and Tatiana.

On Page 18 of the superseding bail indictment from Dec. 17, 2024 (when he was charged with Valerie Mack), it is shown he kept an article connecting the murders of Mack, Jessica Taylor, and Tanya Denise Jackson, who of course was unidentified at the time.

https://www.gilgocase.com/pdf/Gilgo-Superseding-Bail-Application-12-17-2024.pdf

 

[Just K]

Something that nags at me is Tanya Rush. This guy seems to like patterns and connections. He has many victims with “M” names (Maureen, Megan and Melissa, Valerie Mack), “B and C” last names (Barthelamy, Brainard Barnes, Costello, Costilla) and it would follow that he might have two or more victims with the same first or last name. Then I think of Jessica Taylor and Tanya Jackson. The same initials just reversed.

 

[Passeridae]

Something that nags at me is Tanya Rush. This guy seems to like patterns and connections. He has many victims with “M” names (Maureen, Megan and Melissa, Valerie Mack), “B and C” last names (Barthelamy, Brainard Barnes, Costello, Costilla) and it would follow that he might have two or more victims with the same first or last name. Then I think of Jessica Taylor and Tanya Jackson. The same initials just reversed.

Remember that a lot of his victims likely used working names. Valerie Mack went by Melissa Taylor, for example. Maureeen Brainerd-Barnes advertised as Juliana or Marie, and Megan Waterman used Lexi or Tiffany. Amber Costello went by Carolina, and Melissa Barthelemy went by Chloe. I think I remember Jessica Taylor also used a pseudonym, but can't remember what it was and I'm coming up with too many search engine hits to find it.

 

[Izzylizzy]

The answer to this question is yes, and you have to wonder if it was intentional by the prosecution or an accidental slip that they know he likely murdered Tanya and Tatiana.

On Page 18 of the superseding bail indictment from Dec. 17, 2024 (when he was charged with Valerie Mack), it is shown he kept an article connecting the murders of Mack, Jessica Taylor, and Tanya Denise Jackson, who of course was unidentified at the time.

https://www.gilgocase.com/pdf/Gilgo-Superseding-Bail-Application-12-17-2024.pdf

That is what is called a great catch.
Thank you.
TDK aka Peaches is referred to in the newspaper article found in RH's residence.

 

[Just K]

Remember that a lot of his victims likely used working names. Valerie Mack went by Melissa Taylor, for example. Maureeen Brainerd-Barnes advertised as Juliana or Marie, and Megan Waterman used Lexi or Tiffany. Amber Costello went by Carolina, and Melissa Barthelemy went by Chloe. I think I remember Jessica Taylor also used a pseudonym, but can't remember what it was and I'm coming up with too many search engine hits to find it.

Some folks here believe he stalked his victims, saw them more than once and spent time with them possibly learning about their personal lives.

 

[Passeridae]

At least with Jessica Taylor, right? So the tattoo part is great information.

Valerie Mack, too. She had a tattoo of her son's name on one of her ankles, iirc, and that leg was removed mid-calf while the other was not. Her missing leg was found with her arms on Gilgo Beach.

Remember that in the HK document, RH listed being aware that garbage bags could be traced back to the box. Surely he would have thought the same could be done for the tote containers. So, would he have kept a tote from the same time frame for 26 years?

According to the Valerie Mack bail document, he kept editions of a number of newspapers that mentioned the crimes that have been linked to him, including a 1993 Newsday that has a single tiny brief about Sandra Costilla's body being found. However, he also wrote in the HK document about destroying photos. Who knows what he was thinking? I do suspect that if he did killed Tanya and Tatiana, there are some 1997 Newsdays talking about her body being found in his stash.

They may have released her name because they plan to charge him soon, or they may have done so because they do not have DNA evidence to charge him and they don't want to harm their case by pointing a finger at him that they can't back up. Maybe they have some other evidence, but don't want it to come out publicly in a superseding bail document yet, so they're waiting. In order to charge, they have to submit at least some evidence or risk being accused of tunnel vision, and if all they have are, for example, graphic photos they've managed to recover from his hard drive, I can see them waiting. Or maybe they are reasonably sure he wasn't their killer - possible, given the flyer and the comments at the press conference. I don't think it's likely given the locations of their remains on Ocean Parkway, but we won't find out until the police decide to say something.

Personally I think, at least with the publicly available information, RH was very likely the killer of Tanya and Tatiana, and Karen Vergata as well, but if there's not a strong case, we may not know what police are thinking until after he is convicted of something.

 

[Izzylizzy]

What could she possibly say? She doesn't know if RH did it or not.

It's AE's attorney Macedonio who had nothing to say, not AE.
Macedonio must be checking to see if AE was out of town during that period in June 1997.
Maybe he already knows if she was or wasn't?
imo

 

[Passeridae]

True but it seems to be some dumping ground. If I remember correctly, there were other murder victims such as an Asian man on Gilgo Beach that are proven not to be connected to RH.

It has not been proven that Asian Doe is unconnected to RH, and he has not been ruled out as a suspect. A connection has not been proven, but given RH's search history as released in the first bail application and the superseding bail document charging him with Maureen Brainerd-Barnes' murder, in which he had multiple -related searches for "Asian twink" and similar search terms, it's absolutely possible.

When they released the new composites, journalists asked Tierney if the case was connected to Heuermann, and while he did not explicitly say yes, he answered by saying that Asian Doe's remains were found 300 feet from Megan Waterman and between her and Jessica Taylor, so there was certainly an implication there that RH is still the main suspect for this victim. https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/16/us/gilgo-beach-killings-asian-doe/index.html

 

[Passeridae]

Remember that RH was only officially named as a suspect for Maureen Brainard-Barnes when he was arrested for 3 of the GB4. After that, he was never named a suspect in Jessica Taylor or Sandra Costilla's murders, just vague statements about how the investigation is ongoing.

And Ray Tierney only quietly named RH a suspect in Valerie's murder because it was so obvious when he was charged with Jessica (Tierney said "I think that would be fair to say" in response to that question).

He has actually been charged in all three of these homicides now, though they played it very close to the chest on all of them up until the charges were officially filed. (Maybe that's what you meant, but just wanted to clarify.)

 

[Izzylizzy]

Some folks here believe he stalked his victims, saw them more than once and spent time with them possibly learning about their personal lives.

It could also be part of his strategy to get them to come with him to his house.
If they were somewhat familiar with him they may have thought what could happen to them in a house that's in a development.. neighbor to the left and neighbor to the right?
He had to have taken them somewhere that he considered safe and insulated.

 

[Passeridae]

Sandra Castillo (spelling?) found near in a park where he would go to to shooting competitions. Iirc, that was 1996. She was also mutilated and possibly posed.

Sandra Castilla was found murdered in late November 1993.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Under the bench there's an extra pair of legs wearing brown sling heels.

 

[Passeridae]

And both using dismemberment as a tool to hinder the victim's identification. Many are dismembered for concealment purposes only, which is why all of their remains are found together.

The thing that sticks out to me is that it wasn't her torso that was found on Ocean Parkway, but her arms. (And potentially her head, at one point. There was a massive hurricane on Long Island in 1999, Hurricane Floyd, that could have potentially have swept away her head and Karen Vergata's arms, which were also never found, although that's some very major speculation on my part.) For both of RH's known dismembered victims, Jessica Taylor and Valerie Mack, it was their heads and arms (and one of Valerie's feet, presumably because it had her tattoo on it) that were left on Ocean Parkway.

The chances that two people would dismember victims, even in such a similar manner, are decently high. That they would both leave the same body parts on the same barrier island and the torsos and legs elsewhere? Okay, weird, coincidental, but possible. That one of them would leave a victim (Valerie Mack) 200 feet from the victim (Tatiana) of the other? Starting to be a lot less likely. Then add in the search terms in RH's search history about Black women and the fact that his HK document specifically references "clues" that were left near Tanya's body and it starts getting pretty suspicious.

Is it still possible he didn't kill Tanya and Tatiana? Yes. Until we know what the police have or they make a charge or arrest, I don't think anyone can say he did it or didn't do it. But looking at what information is currently available to the public, it seems pretty unlikely someone else killed her.

 

[Passeridae]

Under the bench there's an extra pair of legs wearing brown sling heels.

No, the angle is just weird. Black heels belong to the lady in the red sweater. Sling heels belong to the lady in the brown top. The blue socks and men's loafers belong to the man wearing the blue suit jacket. Brown pants are someone who is not in the frame.

 

[snarast]

.04 of a mile is 70.4 yards or a little over 211 feet.

Tatiana - Valerie: the shortest distance of all.

From the gis/geo-thread - if you want it in meters for all shortest distance pairs:

Costello & Barthelemy: 0.16 mi = 257.495 m
Barthelemy & Barnes: 0.05 mi = 80.4672 m
Barnes & Waterman: 0.07 mi = 112.654 m
Waterman & John Doe: 0.28 mi = 450.616 m
John Doe & JT: 0.62 mi = 997.793 m
JT & Jane Doe 6: 1.43 mi = 2301.361 m
Jane Doe 6 & Baby Doe: 0.04 mi = 64.3737 m

Post in thread 'Geographic Profiling':

I hope these still apply:
Geographic Profiling

 

[Izzylizzy]

No, the angle is just weird. Black heels belong to the lady in the red sweater. Sling heels belong to the lady in the brown top. The blue socks and men's loafers belong to the man wearing the blue suit jacket. Brown pants are someone who is not in the frame.

lol, thanks.
I should have connected the blue suit,arm and legs.

 

[Passeridae]

From the gis/geo-thread:

Costello & Barthelemy: 0.16 mi = 257.495 m
Barthelemy & Barnes: 0.05 mi = 80.4672 m
Barnes & Waterman: 0.07 mi = 112.654 m
Waterman & John Doe: 0.28 mi = 450.616 m
John Doe & JT: 0.62 mi = 997.793 m
JT & Jane Doe 6: 1.43 mi = 2301.361 m
Jane Doe 6 & Baby Doe: 0.04 mi = 64.3737 m

Post in thread 'Geographic Profiling':

I hope these still apply:
Geographic Profiling

Just adding that Jane Doe 6 is Valerie Mack.

These are also only the Suffolk County victims. Tanya Jackson and Karen Vergata were both found just across the border into Nassau County. Tanya Jackson was about 1 mile west of Amber Costello and Karen Vergata was 5 miles west of Amber Costello.

I'm not on Wikipedia, but it appears as though they've confused Asian Doe and Tanya Jackson in the description of where the bodies were found. Asian Doe was found first, between Jessica Taylor and Megan Waterman. Tanya Jackson (Jane Doe 3/Peaches) was found later in Nassau County, between Amber Costello and Karen Vergata. If anyone has a Wiki account, maybe you could correct that? Gilgo Beach serial killings - Wikipedia

 

[Passeridae]

lol, thanks.
I should have connected the blue suit,arm and legs.

I stared at it for like a straight minute before I figured it out, so it wasn't just you.

 

[FromGermany1]

Gilgo Beach Homicide Victim Was Known Only by Tattoo. Now, 'Peaches' and Her Toddler Daughter Have Names

Suspected Long Island Serial Killer Victim 'Peaches,' Toddler Daughter Finally Have Names -- But Cops Say They Could Be Unrelated.

people.com

Jackson served in the U.S. military from July 1993 to February 1995 in Texas, Georgia and Missouri and was living in Brooklyn at the time of her death. She worked at a doctor's office, possibly as a medical assistant, officials said.
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I stumbled over Peaches profession, and I'm now thinking of AE, working at a Hospital ...... No further details available at the moment (memory deficit), but I will search for it. It makes sense for me, if there PERHAPS was a connection, which led to RH in a detour.

 

[snarast]

Just adding that Jane Doe 6 is Valerie Mack.

These are also only the Suffolk County victims. Tanya Jackson and Karen Vergata were both found just across the border into Nassau County. Tanya Jackson was about 1 mile west of Amber Costello and Karen Vergata was 5 miles west of Amber Costello.

I'm not on Wikipedia, but it appears as though they've confused Asian Doe and Tanya Jackson in the description of where the bodies were found. Asian Doe was found first, between Jessica Taylor and Megan Waterman. Tanya Jackson (Jane Doe 3/Peaches) was found later in Nassau County, between Amber Costello and Karen Vergata. If anyone has a Wiki account, maybe you could correct that? Gilgo Beach serial killings - Wikipedia

Some victims were found in two counties, due to the dismemberments. Like KV and TJ.

Btw, Karen’s torso is still missing.