MizStery said:
I agree - he had to have taken her to a home. IMO, I think the step-father may have taken Adreanna to someone's home or to a sheltered area. OR he passed her off to another perp who took her to their home.mysteriew said:
jacobson if I understood correctly lives across the street a bit, and that he was a so called friend of the family or at least friends with the stepdad. if is an older man with a full face beard and wears glasses, looked to me that he might be 50 yrs old if not a bit older, his house is an old frame house and didn't appear to have a good view from the back of the house. sure is strange that the stepdad was out with a yard cart and a large trash barrel. I would speculate that the yard cart was used to mix cement with. I have this bad feeling that she is buried in a shallow grave somewhere in the vacinity and that the concrete was used to place over her, either that or the concrete was used to weight something down, if so, the stuff would not need to be mixed with water. I wonder if the police have checked to see if the yard cart had cement residue on it? even if it was washed out muratic acid could show that cement residue still remains by the reaction that would occure when applied to the cart surface. also behind jacobsons house under a tarp was 9 or 10 more bags of cement, maybe police should move those bags and see if there is any disturbed ground under it. remember jessica lundsford was held and murdered within sight of her own house.mysteriew said:
I remember all too well about how Jessica was murdered and buried right by her home.dannyodie said:
I agree, that's what I was thinking when I posted about Jessica Lunsford a few posts back....dannyodie said:
bobbisangel, I believe a yard cart is similar in nature to a wheel barrow, except it has two small wheels and a deeper container, something that is used to collect yard debris, grass, leaves, sticks and such, it could also be used to mix planting soils in and cement mix, seems to me that the stepdad wheeled over both the trash can and yard cart, I had heard that the reason he did is that it had excess trash in it. you might investigate a few of the hyper links in previous post to one of the news links which states " new leads " I think that is where I saw the mans house and behind it, they did not show the yard cart, but seems I remember seeing a trash barrel on wheels. why would a neighbor push his own trash barrels to another neighbors house? seems that they could use scent dogs to verify if the little girl was in it by her scent. like I said earlier, behind the neighbors house was a tarp covering up several bags of cement mix, probably the same brand that was found in the dumpster nearby, police should move all those bags and the tarp and check to see if the ground under the tarp has been dug up and filled in. if someone buys that many bags of cement then why just use a couple of them at once? unless he has been working on repairing or replacing sidewalks at his home, then maybe that could offer another avenue to investigate?Bobbisangel said:
Didn't the sonar find a grocery cart or some type of cart at the bottom of the one lake??Bobbisangel said:
I wonder about a lot of the same things, imo that someone would take notice of someone during the day in that neighborhood pushing around a grocery cart, but a yard cart as the media reported it would not really be all that out of the ordinary, it could have been used to mix cement into, police didn't for sure say just how many bags were found in a nearby dumpster but said " some cement bags?" so lets calculate, one bag of store bought cement generally produces no more than about 2 cubic ft " less than an average wheel barrow" of material, so if 2 or more bags were used than you have produced somewhere over 100lbs of material and a batch large enough to occupy the lower one third of a large trash container, I wonder would that sink? or stay afloat just below the surface? the yard cart would be large enough to transport a trash container. I am at least thinking she could be buried somewhere in the neighborhood or nearby vacinity. there might be a possibily that the cement was used as if one would use lime dust to place over a body. maybe the yard cart was used to transport or mix cement? since laying them into a tall deep trash containter would be hard to bend over into it and pick them up out of there. I am not familiar with the soil type there in washington but is it easy to dig into when wet or is it real clay like material? how deep could one dig? the old mans house looks like a small single framed structure and not nessled up on other homes? I would certainly as a parent that was going thru a missing child case be out asking neighbors myself or at least looking into other search options than to set around and do little or nothing at all. its my opinion, that this little girl met with the indifference of someone else circumstaces, and that person, if not the stepdad, is " a friend, or person known to the family, it to me doesn't seem like a stranger abduction. seems like other neighborhood kids and moms and dads, someone! would have seen them or her walking that morning, the police at this point havn't been able to verify that the stepdads accounts of things as he told early on are in fact the only truth to this childs disappearence, or is it something much more? everytime I think of this case I get a suffocaiting feeling as if something is laying on top of me? the scent dogs should be used in and around this neighbors yard and house, if the little girl played at american lake on a regular basis, it seems as if those are scent hitsPrayersForMaura said:
Looks to me like the second house is located about a half block kitty corner down wadsworth from Adre'anna's apartment complex.. I still need to read the rest of the post to catch up. But if anyone on wants to explain to me exactly what we are trying to find out here. I will take a stroll in Tillicum this weekend to see what I can see and find out. Actually, I just looked at the map again and the house in Question appears to be directly across the street from the apartment complex Adre'anna lives in.PonderingThings said:
