WA - Cascade Mall, 5 fatalities, Burlington, 23 Sept 2016 *Arrest*

[Doghairrules]

Suspect had history of "Domestic violence incidents, but no convictions"
http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/what-to-know-about-the-burlington-wash-mall-shooter/449647977

Wow. So his parents filed the no contact order? Sounds like he has had major mental health issues for a while. I'd hate to be his therapist tonight.


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[Indy Anna]

rbbm.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/regional/five-people-dead-in-cascade-mall-shooting-in-burlington/324982534

Thank you. They didn't confirm that rumor in the presser but that's what I've suspected. That's the only motive I can deduce for going to a specific location and targeting a few people before leaving.

 

[dotr]

http://www.king5.com/news/dispatch-calls-following-cascade-mall-shooting/325222924
[h=1]Dispatch calls following Cascade Mall shooting[/h]

 

[dotr]

http://www.kare11.com/news/local/five-people-dead-in-cascade-mall-shooting-in-burlington/324968329

Cammock said it was too early to officially give a motive Saturday night. He said he would not rule out anything, including terrorism.

Earlier Saturday, the FBI said there was no evidence that pointed to terrorism as a motive.

 

[FindHG]

Arcan Cetin: What to know about Burlington mall shooting suspect
by: Casey McNerthney KIRO 7 News
Sep 24, 2016 - 11:11 PM
thorough reports, with a timeline, court history, and running updates from their team, who extended courtesy to family members (who do not want their SM images shared until their loved ones' deaths are officially confirmed).

An account from a courageous witness and his wife. He had the gun pointed at him, saw the victims,... currently on the livestream of the 11:00 pm news.
Amy Clancy goes over his SM page with images of child holding an assault rifle, and speaks with neighbors and a friend who recognized him from the images and called LE.
Patranaya Bhoolsuwan details the PC and the investigation.

http://www.kiro7.com/live-stream

 

[yosande]

No, but if you do, you enter with a higher rank, and better pay.
My grandson spent all his high school years in ROTC, and joined the marines in his senior year.

 

[K_Z]

Never ceases to amaze me how fast the internet moves. There is a Wiki entry for the Cascade Mall shootings already.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Cascade_Mall_shooting

 

[CARIIS]

The perp walk is very odd. He looks paranoid of the camera- it is almost as if he is not really grasping what he did, or why all this is going?? His eyes - like he is not really "present"

Here comes mental illiness sorry I know many think I ALWAYS think that - but we have to remember we are on forum that deals with people who kill people - so there is a built in correlation!

If this was a thread on sewing a bedspread..............

He is vacant - not there , blunted,

 

[CARIIS]

rbbm.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/regional/five-people-dead-in-cascade-mall-shooting-in-burlington/324982534

Thats just bizaire thought process (unless he did not know she no longer worked there). Location selection casue an X "used" to be employed is not really very logical?

Maybe she started a relationship with someone else she worked with- and he was really looking for that person?

strang....... At this point it is not like employees or management were targets - which would make some sense?

ages from 16 to 95

 

[human]

He is mentally ill so he will make no sense. Jusl like the theatre shooting or Sandy Hook

 

[CARIIS]

[FONT=&amp]no apparent connection between Cetin and the victims of the shooting.

If that remains accurate, it seems to me , it is even more bizaire. As oppossed to just entering and shooting and leaving.

What is the connection to going to a specfic location in the store.

WOuld be intersting to know if X worked in make up?

It the call to 911 is confirmed - be intersting if he was make sense on the call?

From Heavy

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He was found 30 miles from mall

[FONT=&quot]victims of the Cascade Mall shooting range from a 16-year-old cancer survivor


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[CARIIS]

He is mentally ill so he will make no sense. Jusl like the theatre shooting or Sandy Hook

I agree we gotta be in the delusionial arena!! oR voices.....................Actually the theatre made sense...he WAS the Joker.

 

[CARIIS]

[FONT=&amp]6-year-old cancer survivor Sarai Lara. She was a student at Mount Vernon High School. [/FONT]KIRO reports[FONT=&amp] that she was with her father at the mall. He was outside smoking when the gunfire erupted,

[/FONT]KIRO reports[FONT=&amp] that two of the other victims are Belinda Glade, a probation officer, and her 95-year-old mother Beatrice Dotson.

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]preliminarily been named as 52-year-old Shayla Martin who worked at the makeup desk in the Macy's store. Her sister, Karen Van Horn, told the Seattle Times, "We're having a really hard time." Van Horn is an employee of the The Herald newspaper in Everett, Washington. Van Horn [/FONT]told that newspaper[FONT=&amp] that a witness had confirmed to the family that Martin had been killed. Van Horn said, "She was so sweet. She was just very independent. She wanted to make her own way. She didn’t want to rely on anyone else."

[/FONT][FONT=&amp] July 2015 on charges of assault in the fourth degree. [/FONT]KIRO reports[FONT=&amp] that as a result of the charges, Cetin was ordered to undergo mental health counselling that he completed in March 2016. During which time, he was ordered not to take drugs or drink alcohol. As of August 25, 2016, Cetin was found in compliance with the court order.

[/FONT](1) A person commits the crime of assault in the fourth degree if the person: (a) Intentionally, knowingly or recklessly causes physical injury to another; or. (b) With criminal negligence causes physical injury to another by means of a deadly weapon. (2) Assault in the fourth degree is a Class A misdemeanor.

[FONT=&amp]assault is committed in the immediate presence of, or is witnessed by, the persons or the victims minor child or stepchild or a minor child residing within the household of the person or victim;[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp](b)The person has been previously convicted of violating this section or ORS 163.165 (Assault in the third degree), 163.175 (Assault in the second degree), 163.185 (Assault in the first degree), 163.187(Strangulation) or 163.190(Menacing), or of committing an equivalent crime in another jurisdiction, and

the victim in the previous conviction is the same person who is the victim of the current crime;

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least [FONT=&amp]three previous convictions for violating this section or ORS 163.165(Assault in the third degree),163.175 (Assault in the second degree), 163.185 (Assault in the first degree), 163.187(Strangulation) or 163.190(Menacing) or for committing an equivalent crime in another jurisdiction, in any combination; or


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[FONT=&amp]The person commits the assault knowing that the victim is pregnant.

[/FONT](1) A person commits the crime of assault in the fourth degree if the person: (a) Intentionally, knowingly or recklessly causes physical injury to another; or. (b) With criminal negligence causes physical injury to another by means of a deadly weapon. (2) Assault in the fourth degree is a Class A misdemeanor.

assault is committed in the immediate presence of, or is witnessed by, the persons or the victims minor child or stepchild or a minor child residing within the household of the person or victim;
(b)The person has been previously convicted of violating this section or ORS 163.165 (Assault in the third degree), 163.175 (Assault in the second degree), 163.185 (Assault in the first degree), 163.187(Strangulation) or 163.190(Menacing), or of committing an equivalent crime in another jurisdiction, and
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http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/163.160[/FONT]
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[/FONT]http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/sarai-lara-belinda-galde-beatrice-dotson-shayla-martin-cascade-mall-shooting-victims-arcan-cetin/9/

 

[CARIIS]

reportedly has a Myspace (yes, that still exists). On it, he posts photos of himself with guns, and writes this interesting comment: "ME AND MY UNCLE'S (LEFT) M16. No gay comments yes I was "fat" Cmon i lost 50 pounds. I'll take a new picture..Soon" He posts other homophobic comments on other sites as well.



http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/arcan-cetin-cascade-mall-burlington-washington-shooting-suspect-shooter-name/

He appears to be relatively popular, with several friends of many different ethnicities. He likes cars and apparently likes the military, U.S. Navy, and Navy Seals.

Twitter, which hasn't been recently updated, Cetin mostly talks about random thoughts, including this political one:

Follow
Arcan @ArcanCetin

Country is for Republicans and confused Democrats.
[video=twitter;590904720299950081]https://twitter.com/ArcanCetin/status/590904720299950081[/video]

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  1414 l[FONT=&quot]his nickname as “The Turk.” As of 2014, he was in a relationship. While in high school, Cetin was in ROTC.

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http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/sarai...-cascade-mall-shooting-victims-arcan-cetin/4/

 

[CARIIS]

Sorry if posted

You Tube page

I will do this as "tags"!

SUICIDE SILENCE - Disengage - Performance Cut

sponge bob happy meal spoof? Sounds somewhat juvinile - or much darker implcations?

chick waiting to buy iphone 5

call of duty

lyrics of another one

Uh oh, let it pop, ladies drop it like it's hot
Hell yeah, that's the spot, now bring it back to the top
Stop! Woah, now back it up, now back it up
Let it rise then watch it dump, shaking your junk in the trunk
And - I - like - the way you move it smoothly
Now why - don't - you move that booty - to - me
I'm tryna come up with some thoughts of attack,
until I heard somebody yellin' out "

Screamed by a bunch of guys that sound like they have larangytis -- violent as heck

https://www.youtube.com/user/xxArcan96xx

[FONT=&quot]domestic violence assault charges in both Burlington and Island County,

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Chuck Eagan, a Boeing maintenance worker who was shot while helping his wife flee the store.

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Burlington, a community of 8,600 people, is about 65 miles north of Seattle, too far to be a commuter town, but its population swells to 55,000 during the day because of a popular outlet mall, retail stores and other businesses. Burlington is the only major retail center within 30 miles in a region where agriculture is king, said Linda Jones, president of the Burlington Chamber of Commerce.

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Joanne Burkholder, 19, of Mount Vernon, was watching the movie "The Magnificent Seven" in the mall's theater when security guards came in and told them to evacuate immediately. Dozens of panicked moviegoers gathered in the hallway, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]As she drove home later, she had to pull over because she was shaking so hard, she told The Associated Press.

[/FONT]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/25/suspect-in-washington-state-mall-shooting-in-custody.html[FONT=&quot]


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[CARIIS]

at arrest had a computer in a bag he was carrying at the time.

Police impounded his car

legal, permanent resident o


xgfriend moved to another county so in a way it seems we may now have more info as ut rekates to location- they broke up months ago , may not know she moved and left Macys


Cetin also was arrested on a drunken driving charge, the Times reports.
A judge told Cetin Dec. 29 he could not possess a firearm, according to the Times. His stepfather convinced the judge not to impose a no-contact order. He said his stepson was "going through a hard time."

Sarai Lara was shopping for pants Friday night at the mall with her younger sister,
Evangelina Lara said she learned at 2 a.m. Saturday her daughter was among the five victims.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...n-mall-shooting-suspect-arcan-cetin/91071336/

 

[JLSChook]

This case goes to show that usually witness statements are extremely unreliable. An Hispanic lady who was right there, hiding in the bathroom with her children, and texting her sister, said for sure that this was an Hispanic man.

The Hispanic community is not too happy with MSM and LE for putting out a description as "Hispanic". Many of us knew, just by looking at the picture that this person was from the ME and not Hispanic. I'm glad they didn't say he was a mixed race black because we might have more riots on our hands.

I'm glad they caught this . RIP to all the victims. :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose:

 

[STANDREID]

This case goes to show that usually witness statements are extremely unreliable. An Hispanic lady who was right there, hiding in the bathroom with her children, and texting her sister, said for sure that this was an Hispanic man.

The Hispanic community is not too happy with MSM and LE for putting out a description as "Hispanic". Many of us knew, just by looking at the picture that this person was from the ME and not Hispanic. I'm glad they didn't say he was a mixed race black because we might have more riots on our hands.

I'm glad they caught this . RIP to all the victims. :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose:

Confusing Hispanics (even though Hispanics can be of any race) with Middle Easterners is somewhat common. The original description of Robert Kennedy's assassin was that he looked like a Mexican.

 

[silverkitty]

Here's a link http://magafeed.com/burlington-mall-shooter-arcan-cetin-is-a-hillary-supporter/

He's not a Hillary supporter, it was a goof post comment to a friend about the Seahawks -- if they won, he'd vote for her. Let's stop with blaming a political party for creating monsters, they carry their own blame. (And I'm no way no how a fan of HRC.)

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[skibaboo]

at arrest had a computer in a bag he was carrying at the time.

RSBM. Oh? I wonder if that is what he had in his hand in the pic at the mall too!