Found Deceased WA - Cheryl DeBoer, 54, Mountlake Terrace, 8 February 2016 #3

[JanetElaine]

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...n-continues-as-police-await-forensic-results/

Same info that was posted on other MSM today but with seemingly more emphasis of the "sensitive" nature of not-yet-released information.

-as an aside, does anybody know if it's possible for the police to know whether a phone has been turned off as apposed to damaged, submerged or its battery removed?

Well that was so nice of them to come out with that right after I mentioned it would be nice to hear something, anything, new.

Kidding aside, that does sound hopeful. I'm glad. This lady and her family deserve closure.

 

[Dushi]

So many things running through my mind after reading the post about "sensitive nature of not yet released information"
It could mean several things.
Sensitive as in evidence that points to a specific person
Sensitive as in private.. suicide

How much water was in this culvert?
Are they checking to see if she was alive when placed there? Water in lungs?

Drowning is not always easy to determine.
Tox would take awhile

 

[Elainera]

Would rape (and details of it) also be called "sensitive" information? I would say yes?

 

[Dushi]

Would rape (and details of it) also be called "sensitive" information? I would say yes?

My humble opinion? YES

 

[Treelights]

So many things running through my mind after reading the post about "sensitive nature of not yet released information"
It could mean several things.
Sensitive as in evidence that points to a specific person
Sensitive as in private.. suicide

How much water was in this culvert?
Are they checking to see if she was alive when placed there? Water in lungs?

Drowning is not always easy to determine.
Tox would take awhile

I wonder, say if she took a toxic level of diphenhydramine, she got sleepy, fell asleep in the culvert, which could explain if there was water in the lungs?
Could she also have passed away from hypothermia?
And again, I wonder where her cell phone and purse are?
IMOO.

 

[Treelights]

Would rape (and details of it) also be called "sensitive" information? I would say yes?

I would agree with that statement, as well.
IMOO.

 

[pinklilies]

Would rape (and details of it) also be called "sensitive" information? I would say yes?

Respectfully I think highly unlikely as CD was found fully clothed.

 

[Dushi]

I wonder, say if she took a toxic level of diphenhydramine, she got sleepy, fell asleep in the culvert, which could explain if there was water in the lungs?
Could she also have passed away from hypothermia?
And again, I wonder where her cell phone and purse are?
IMOO.

It is the missing purse and cell that give me big chills. Wouldn't they be with her if it was suicide?
Why would she discard them? and to the best of our knowledge, they have not been found.

 

[TTF14]

An extra-marital relationship could also be considered sensitive information. Just a theory.

ETA: Also some kind of whistle-blower scenario.

 

[Dushi]

Respectfully I think highly unlikely as CD was found fully clothed.

I agree that it is highly unlikey if she was raped and murdered where she was found.
But, so far. we don't know if the crime happened where the body was located and when it happened.
We only know when she went missing and when they found her body

 

[Stripehaven]

Would rape (and details of it) also be called "sensitive" information? I would say yes?

I would think so. OTOH, if true, this is something I would hope they would warn the public about.

i caught this on Q13 News this morning, and it made me feel a bit better. LE really do seem to be soft-pedaling the "danger to the public" angle, and like some of you, I also feel They have a good idea of what happened and seem to be watching someone. If not, I would expect them to be much more visibly and aggressively soliciting information, which I have seen in other cases but not so much here.

It is going to be hard to wait several more weeks but I hope so much that all of this means they have plenty of info they are analyzing.

I do wonder about their examining Cheryl's phone and computer. I still have trouble comprehending suicide here but I wonder if they are suspecting someone close to her. Or, of course, ruling that out. I am very anxious to know all.

 

[Treelights]

Respectfully I think highly unlikely as CD was found fully clothed.

Trying not to be so graphic here. She could have been found fully clothed, meaning all of her clothes were on her body.Maybe partially undressed?
IMOO.

 

[pinklilies]

Trying not to be so graphic here. She could have been found fully clothed, meaning all of her clothes were on her body.Maybe partially undressed?
IMOO.

Thanks. I just don't feel he'd have mentioned her clothing at all if that was the case. Jmo.

 

[eucalyptuz]

I've been thinking about the word "sensitive" too and I agree with most mulled about above:
-'sensitive' in that it pertains to a person they are interested in as a perp and is information the the perp is unaware of. Eg finger prints of a known person somewhere where they shouldn't be etc.
-'sensitive' as in the details are gruesome and horrific and LE are sparing us the torment of knowing. (Although you'd think this would come with a definite public safety announcement.)
-and finally 'sensitive' because it suggests suicide which carries its own torment to family and friends. It is a very personal detail to be splashing about without tox details to back it up.

As Pickard mentioned a few more weeks for results I guess we're in it for the long haul. Well, at least we know we have played out every and any scenario under the sun with the scant information we have

PS: annoyingly, the mention of 'taking a bus' in the return text was mentioned again, now, from the horse's mouth... This snippet just doesn't mesh with the 'suicide' angle. The carpool buddy writes back "how long", CD writes "about 10 minutes, I'll take the bus", buddy writes "we'll wait". If you are contemplating suicide and want a few hours of alone time to make it happen, wouldn't you reply to that final text? To stall the panic being raised? To prevent calls to the house, the husband or even the carpool detouring around to see if her car has broken down etc.

 

[Beesknees]

I never heard of anyone that commited suicide but before was warning their carpool with an excuse, parked the car near or in the usual places she had always parked, had a walk and entered a culvert...

I never heard of anyone that commited suicide but before doing it had the trouble to 'hide' their purse or mobile...

Also I never heard of anyone who was hit or killed to be robbed by a drug addict or a random attacker (near or inside a car) who wasn't left there while the criminal ran away with the person's purse or mobile, etc.

I also never heard of any felon like this to ride the persons car with the person, kill or hide the person or throw her in a culvert and then is worried enough to go and park the car near or in the same place where he hit the person first.

I also wonder why would the police alow Cheryl's husband to take a polygraph, if Cheryl was seen alive (in CCTV?) that morning and was home alive after her husband left for Mukilteo and he arrived at his place of work so early that it would be impossible (with no doubt) to have commited the crime.

 

[eucalyptuz]

Yes, Beesknees, curiouser and curiouser!

ETA: without risking a SM storm, I did see it mentioned in a comment by "someone who works with a sister-in-law" that the purse and phone were retrieved. Can anybody remember if the police mentioned "still being on the search" for those items AFTER Cheryl's body was recovered?

 

[Elainera]

An extra-marital relationship could also be considered sensitive information. Just a theory.

ETA: Also some kind of whistle-blower scenario.

bbm

I thought the same. Maybe there were signs of sexual activity but not necessarily of rape, so they are not sure how to classify this yet. Just speculating.

 

[Elainera]

I never heard of anyone that commited suicide but before was warning their carpool with an excuse, parked the car near or in the usual places she had always parked, had a walk and entered a culvert...

I never heard of anyone that commited suicide but before doing it had the trouble to 'hide' their purse or mobile...

Also I never heard of anyone who was hit or killed to be robbed by a drug addict or a random attacker (near or inside a car) who wasn't left there while the criminal ran away with the person's purse or mobile, etc.

I also never heard of any felon like this to ride the persons car with the person, kill or hide the person or throw her in a culvert and then is worried enough to go and park the car near or in the same place where he hit the person first.

I also wonder why would the police alow Cheryl's husband to take a polygraph, if Cheryl was seen alive (in CCTV?) that morning and was home alive after her husband left for Mukilteo and he arrived at his place of work so early that it would be impossible (with no doubt) to have commited the crime.

bbm

I can think of two reasons, 1) they had not seen/verified the surveillance footage of him leaving yet at the point he took the poly, or 2) they wanted to probe him whether he hired someone to commit the crime/had prior knowledge of the crime.

 

[Beesknees]

bbm

I can think of two reasons, 1) they had not seen/verified the surveillance footage of him leaving yet at the point he took the poly, or 2) they wanted to probe him whether he hired someone to commit the crime/had prior knowledge of the crime.

Ok, I will conced and give the benefit of doubt :waitasec:

 

[Dushi]

bbm

I can think of two reasons, 1) they had not seen/verified the surveillance footage of him leaving yet at the point he took the poly, or 2) they wanted to probe him whether he hired someone to commit the crime/had prior knowledge of the crime.

They also didn't know the TOD at that time