Found Deceased WA - Cheryl DeBoer, 54, Mountlake Terrace, 8 February 2016 #3

[Dushi]

Yes, Beesknees, curiouser and curiouser!

ETA: without risking a SM storm, I did see it mentioned in a comment by "someone who works with a sister-in-law" that the purse and phone were retrieved. Can anybody remember if the police mentioned "still being on the search" for those items AFTER Cheryl's body was recovered?

I don't recall anything being mentioned, come to think about it...

 

[Elainera]

They also didn't know the TOD at that time

Right. They hadn't even found her yet if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Elainera]

I don't recall anything being mentioned, come to think about it...

Me neither.

 

[pinklilies]

They also didn't know the TOD at that time

Do they now?

 

[Dushi]

Do they now?

I don't know
Do not think anything has been reported

 

[Dushi]

Someone local..

Is it at all possible that Cheryl's body could be in that culvert for days without being noticed?

 

[Stripehaven]

Someone local..

Is it at all possible that Cheryl's body could be in that culvert for days without being noticed?

IMO yes, if (as I believe is accurate) she was on the same side of the road as the Welcome to MLT sign. Pedestrian traffic is virtually non-existent there, and as far as I can tell, the bottom of the culvert is not visible from the street, unless you are on foot and looking over the side of the road into the culvert.

 

[Dushi]

It would be interesting to know if her personal belongings were found with her.
If so , and everything was as it should be, it certainly rules out robbery.
I don't recall ever hearing a report about no activity on bank cards etc.. I may have missed that. Perhaps reported before she was located?

If she had fallen into the culvert, I assume there would be a more clear cause of death as in a head injury?
Reading Stripehaven's post leads me to believe this location was rather secluded as far as walkers go.
For some reason, i had it in my head that it was a busy, well traveled, visual location

 

[Hdk]

It would be interesting to know if her personal belongings were found with her.
If so , and everything was as it should be, it certainly rules out robbery.
I don't recall ever hearing a report about no activity on bank cards etc.. I may have missed that. Perhaps reported before she was located?

If she had fallen into the culvert, I assume there would be a more clear cause of death as in a head injury?
Reading Stripehaven's post leads me to believe this location was rather secluded as far as walkers go.
For some reason, i had it in my head that it was a busy, well traveled, visual location

It is a well traveled road, but it's also very wooded. Many trees on the side of the road. If I get time soon I will take some video of the area so those curious can see what it looks like.


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[cs2012]

I've been thinking about the word "sensitive" too and I agree with most mulled about above:
-'sensitive' in that it pertains to a person they are interested in as a perp and is information the the perp is unaware of. Eg finger prints of a known person somewhere where they shouldn't be etc.
-'sensitive' as in the details are gruesome and horrific and LE are sparing us the torment of knowing. (Although you'd think this would come with a definite public safety announcement.)
-and finally 'sensitive' because it suggests suicide which carries its own torment to family and friends. It is a very personal detail to be splashing about without tox details to back it up.

As Pickard mentioned a few more weeks for results I guess we're in it for the long haul. Well, at least we know we have played out every and any scenario under the sun with the scant information we have

PS: annoyingly, the mention of 'taking a bus' in the return text was mentioned again, now, from the horse's mouth... This snippet just doesn't mesh with the 'suicide' angle. The carpool buddy writes back "how long", CD writes "about 10 minutes, I'll take the bus", buddy writes "we'll wait". If you are contemplating suicide and want a few hours of alone time to make it happen, wouldn't you reply to that final text? To stall the panic being raised? To prevent calls to the house, the husband or even the carpool detouring around to see if her car has broken down etc.

wouldnt the water make the fingerprint go away? also, where wsa that mentioned this time? yeah i think she wouldnt say something to illicit a response or make her coworkers think she will show up. she couldve said she doesnt feel well and that wouldve put an end to the texts.

 

[Elainera]

IMO yes, if (as I believe is accurate) she was on the same side of the road as the Welcome to MLT sign. Pedestrian traffic is virtually non-existent there, and as far as I can tell, the bottom of the culvert is not visible from the street, unless you are on foot and looking over the side of the road into the culvert.

I would imagine that (pet) dogs would have pulled their owners there when out for a walk, even if they walked on the other side of the street. Of course, the owners might not have complied to the dog's wishes to explore the other side of the street any further.

 

[cs2012]

omg lol police are directly responding to us: "Pickard said police are not trying to be cagey by releasing only small pieces of information."
we called them cagey. lol funny. theyre obviously reading this board.

 

[Elainera]

wouldnt the water make the fingerprint go away? also, where wsa that mentioned this time? yeah i think she wouldnt say something to illicit a response or make her coworkers think she will show up. she couldve said she doesnt feel well and that wouldve put an end to the texts.

Maybe eucalyptuz was thinking of fingerprints on her phone (if found), inside the car, steering wheel, door etc?

 

[cs2012]

I never heard of anyone that commited suicide but before was warning their carpool with an excuse, parked the car near or in the usual places she had always parked, had a walk and entered a culvert...

I never heard of anyone that commited suicide but before doing it had the trouble to 'hide' their purse or mobile...

Also I never heard of anyone who was hit or killed to be robbed by a drug addict or a random attacker (near or inside a car) who wasn't left there while the criminal ran away with the person's purse or mobile, etc.

I also never heard of any felon like this to ride the persons car with the person, kill or hide the person or throw her in a culvert and then is worried enough to go and park the car near or in the same place where he hit the person first.

I also wonder why would the police alow Cheryl's husband to take a polygraph, if Cheryl was seen alive (in CCTV?) that morning and was home alive after her husband left for Mukilteo and he arrived at his place of work so early that it would be impossible (with no doubt) to have commited the crime.

they never said they had cctv, cctv isnt common on homes here. but that is a good point. maybe they wanted to see if he would cooperate, and if he had gotten someone else to do something to her.

 

[Elainera]

omg lol police are directly responding to us: "Pickard said police are not trying to be cagey by releasing only small pieces of information."
we called them cagey. lol funny. theyre obviously reading this board.

Wouldn't be the first time. There are lots of great thoughts and suggestions on these threads. Once even the perp itself posted here, but I can't remember which case that was. It was long ago.

 

[cs2012]

It would be interesting to know if her personal belongings were found with her.
If so , and everything was as it should be, it certainly rules out robbery.
I don't recall ever hearing a report about no activity on bank cards etc.. I may have missed that. Perhaps reported before she was located?

If she had fallen into the culvert, I assume there would be a more clear cause of death as in a head injury?
Reading Stripehaven's post leads me to believe this location was rather secluded as far as walkers go.
For some reason, i had it in my head that it was a busy, well traveled, visual location

there may be a head injury that is unseen to the visible eye, or maybe she had that but they still want to rule out other things like drowning etc to find out what caused her to pass away and give family concrete answers.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Wouldn't be the first time. There are lots of great thoughts and suggestions on these threads. Once even the perp itself posted here, but I can't remember which case that was. It was long ago.

I believe it was DeeDee Moore who posted here some time ago. She was convicted of murdering lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare.

 

[Beesknees]

Wouldn't be the first time. There are lots of great thoughts and suggestions on these threads. Once even the perp itself posted here, but I can't remember which case that was. It was long ago.

:noooo: :freakedout: :hills:

 

[Hdk]

I think the families recent plight on SM about anyone coming forward with information is because the police do have some idea of what happened, but need a few more nails before they come forward with it.

I think that the family has been given enough information to know the general idea of what happened, but also that they need a few more answers before arresting someone or release the details to the public.


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[Stripehaven]

I would imagine that (pet) dogs would have pulled their owners there when out for a walk, even if they walked on the other side of the street. Of course, the owners might not have complied to the dog's wishes to explore the side of the street any further.

I doubt many walkers pass this intersection at all. For dog walkers, there are no more pleasant areas very close by. And there aren't really any pedestrian destinations along here. It is not pedestrian-friendly. Most people traveling these roads for any reason would drive.