Found Deceased WA - Cheryl DeBoer, 54, Mountlake Terrace, 8 February 2016 #6

[jennapuppy]

It's not that she got a cat. It's that she waited months to get him because she had a trip planned and wanted to be home for an extended period to help him acclimate.

Do you know when she returned from her vacation? Was Feb 8 her first day back at work? TIA

 

[Yvettea]

I believe her son said that she was thought to have been in there since the morning of her disappearance. I can't search via mobile so hopefully someone can find the post?

03-21-2016, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eileen730

I would.like to know how long they think she was in the culvert.



Based on what I know, and speaking with ME I am confident she was put there the morning she went missing.​

 

[DatelineFan]

I know people kind of dismissed my theory of this possibility before, but I'm bringing it up again.

I think Marianne Humble's death could be related. She has a thread here, but we don't have much information.

http://q13fox.com/2016/01/21/author...ver-while-searching-for-missing-monroe-woman/

Some similaires:

+ 53 years old
+ found in water
+ disappeared on Monday
+ LE unable to determine manner of death

 

[Eileen730]

It's not that she got a cat. It's that she waited months to get him because she had a trip planned and wanted to be home for an extended period to help him acclimate.

So you have the cat back now?
Did I understand that correctly?

 

[Yvettea]

I know people kind of dismissed my theory of this possibility before, but I'm bringing it up again.

I think Marianne Humble's death could be related. She has a thread here, but we don't have much information.

http://q13fox.com/2016/01/21/author...ver-while-searching-for-missing-monroe-woman/

Some similaires:

+ 53 years old
+ found in water
+ disappeared on Monday
+ LE unable to determine manner of death

I haven't dismissed anything including the lady, age 48, who was missing three weeks later, Amy Kennelly.

 

[Stripehaven]

In older threads it was discussed that the area near the culvert isn't very walkable. Locals said there are rarely pedestrians there.

I was one who posted this ages ago. I was relying on my imperfect memory. Actually, there IS sidewalk all along Cedar Way heading north from the culvert (but not south). But it is not an area where you see many people walking. There isn't really anything around there that would be a ped destination during rush hour.

 

[cs2012]

Barbiturates are still prescribed for a few situations but they have largely been replaced by benzodiazepines which could render you unconscious but would still allow your body to remove the bag defeating the asphyxiation. To asphyxiate without drugs would be almost impossible.

However, Cheryl may have been lying in very cold water which would have an effect on the body. I'm also wondering if she could have used hyperventilation to defeat her breathing reflex and allowing her to pass out.

If this is true, i dont think its suicide. That is way too complicated and seems like itd be too difficult.

 

[Treelights]

I know people kind of dismissed my theory of this possibility before, but I'm bringing it up again.

I think Marianne Humble's death could be related. She has a thread here, but we don't have much information.

http://q13fox.com/2016/01/21/author...ver-while-searching-for-missing-monroe-woman/

Some similaires:

+ 53 years old
+ found in water
+ disappeared on Monday
+ LE unable to determine manner of death

Your article does state that homicide was ruled out.

 

[Stripehaven]

Very interesting about her firearm. Justiceforcheryl, do you know if Cheryl usually carried her firearm with her to work every morning?


This is something I'd like to know as well.


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I would be very surprised if Fred Hutch allows firearms on their premises.

 

[DatelineFan]

Your article does state that homicide was ruled out.

True. LE also says there's no evidence of homicidal violence in Cheryl's case. For me, there are still questions. I assume they ruled out homicide due to the absence of injuries to MH body.

 

[Justiceforcheryl]

I haven't dismissed anything including the lady, age 48, who was missing three weeks later, Amy Kennelly.

I totally agree with this. I have felt this all along but have no basis besides gut feel. And possibly the attempted kidnapping in Queen Anne.

 

[WhisperWorm]

https://tribkcpq.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/promo279854165.jpg

Easy access to the culvert as I see it.

That's been my thinking, as well. If Cheryl wanted to, she could have easily stepped into the culvert on the western side and gotten no snags in her clothing. She would have had to have walked in the cold water and beneath the roadway (LE says that their investigators, some over 6' tall, were able to stand in it so she would have fit easily) and ended up on the other side, where I believe evidence was found.

It's been mentioned "wouldn't someone have seen her walk 1.5 miles to the culvert?" but I think the truth is, people these days, especially in this area, mind their own business.

I have wanted to say this so many times. Living here, and having experienced the "Seattle Freeze", I know that people really do keep to themselves and do often look away even when people are in trouble. But we're not talking about someone who looked like they were in trouble...just a woman wearing dark pants and a dark jacket possibly carrying a plastic bag. That describes almost everyone around here! Not to mention that sunrise wasn't until 7:24am (I believe, but that's close) so it wasn't even fully light out, and was downright dark when she left her house. I really do not think that her walking - either on a main street or side street/residential street, would have stuck out to anyone.

It was mentioned on FB that the school buses are running just before 7am, so the kids would have been picked up by the time Cheryl would have been walking anywhere. And, would they remember her anyway? I'm sure they've been asked, at least I'd hope so.

Also, with the light at that time of morning, and as far as the houses sit back from the street, surveillance cameras more than likely wouldn't have picked up a person walking by. If she walked down the main arterial roads where there's better lighting from streetlights, she would have been picked up on the same Espresso Stand camera that her car was picked up on.

 

[Treelights]

I totally agree with this. I have felt this all along but have no basis besides gut feel. And possibly the attempted kidnapping in Queen Anne.

In another post you mentioned that you believe that Cheryl knew this person somehow or was familiar with this person.
Do you think this person also knew these other people as well?

IMOO.

 

[Treelights]

Interesting. My gut feeling it was personal against Cheryl.

I don't feel there is a serial killer.

Also, if it was personal, it could also have been Cheryl herself who killed herself.

I don't get the serial killer vibe.

Interesting how we all have different opinions.

IMOO.

 

[Justiceforcheryl]

In another post you mentioned that you believe that Cheryl knew this person somehow or was familiar with this person.
Do you think this person also knew these other people as well?

IMOO.

Admittedly that part doesn't add up. I guess I have two feelings. One being the injured animal used to cause further disfocus or someone she knew. Maybe not close and personal but even had made eye contact with and smiled which would also cause her to let her guard down.
Some questions like the vacation and gun I don't feel ok answering without her husbands permission. I want him to feel safe throughout this and not have his whole personal life violated after all he has been through.

 

[cs2012]

I am new here. Cheryl got her kitty from me on Friday night. This is her third kitty from me in about ten years. She and her husband work magic with kitties that need lots of love and patience. Her first kitty died of old age in September and she contacted me and asked if I would be willing to hold this kitty until February. She had a vacation planned in January and wanted to be sure she would be home long term to help him acclimate. This is how I know it's not a suicide. Why wait months for a cat and then kill herself?
I picked up the cat on Wednesday after she was taken and he was his normal happy self and not traumatized or injured in any way. Her son carried him out to the living room and he was completely calm. This is a ten year old cat who is very sensitive.
Also she was an avid hunter and carried a 357. If she was going to kill herself that would be a much better way. This was not a suicide.
Also the cats I raise are raised on raw meat from the butcher shop down the road. It's a custom blend. Maybe she was trying some different foods. I saw both cats and neither had any injuries nor did they seem traumatized at all.

I am glad you joined, thank you. I am sorry for your loss. So was she a foster parent of kitties? Her loving cats, chocolate, all these things im learning is really making this hit home for me. Did she tend to carry her 357 to work with her? I agree with you whole heartedly. Thank you for taking care of kitties and also wanting justice for Cheryl.

 

[DatelineFan]

My first theory is that someone Cheryl is familiar did this.

My second theory is that there is someone who is targeting women Cheryl's age, and putting them in water.

I don't believe this was suicide.

 

[cs2012]

First Impreza wasn't made until 1992, and not sold in the US until 1993.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subar...932000.3B_GC.2C_GF.2C_GM.3B_.22N.22_series.29

wow why did they say it was an 88...& why were thry searching with no gloves???

 

[Master Gee]

It's been mentioned "wouldn't someone have seen her walk 1.5 miles to the culvert?" but I think the truth is, people these days, especially in this area, mind their own business. Even if people are in distress, I've seen people turn a blind eye because they don't know if the person is dangerous or homeless or mentally unstable. I think we've been conditioned to ignore people (esp if you live in/near a big city) and therefore, I don't think I'd think twice about a woman walking alone at 7 am. I don't buy into the suicide theory, but if she did, I wouldn't have noticed or remembered a woman walking alone. jmo.

I think we have 1000 people here that are living proof that people don't just mind their own business If one of us busy bodies had noticed her we would have probably video'd it ourselves. There are numerous ways to walk to the culvert from 58th. Main road with lots of traffic, cameras and mostly sidewalks and residential neighborhoods with no sidewalks. Most folks walking through those neighborhoods at that time would most likely be walking west not east. west is where all of the community transit, stores and activity are. Would be a little curious to see someone walking toward the east where there are just houses and apartment complexes.

 

[TTF14]

I think we have 1000 people here that are living proof that people don't just mind their own business If one of us busy bodies had noticed her we would have probably video'd it ourselves. There are numerous ways to walk to the culvert from 58th. Main road with lots of traffic, cameras and mostly sidewalks and residential neighborhoods with no sidewalks. Most folks walking through those neighborhoods at that time would most likely be walking west not east. west is where all of the community transit, stores and activity are. Would be a little curious to see someone walking toward the east where there are just houses and apartment complexes.

I would think most people out walking that time of morning would either be exercising or walking dogs. Either way, they'd be "regulars" and would most likely notice the same people day after day. They'd notice someone out of the ordinary!

ETA: My statement is based on my view of the area from Google Maps and my opinion as someone who lives in a neighborhood.