WA - Civil rights activist Rachel Dolezal pretending to be black, parents say #1

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  • #781
I am wondering if she might come up with something about her being the result of an affair next? With a black father who she knows is definitely black but unfortunately can't be traced?

Of course she will. And she will never take a DNA test to match her bio parents. She is white when it is convenient and black when it is convenient without the genetic back up for the black affectation...just how I see it. Honestly, her kind of crazy is the smallest part of the story imvho-the false filings of racial identity and police reports are where this story lives for me. She takes everything away from those who are actual victims.

Wing nut.
 
  • #782
She hasn't escaped consequences that matter to her, IMO. On an immediate practical level, she's lost her teaching job, her police commission position, and her position as NAACP chapter president.

As she's stated herself, in her only acknowledgement of reality, she's also lost any credibility she had as her sister's advocate in the child abuse case against their brother. One hopes the charges are false, otherwise she's sacrificed her sister's justice to advance her own self-serving lies.

As for her future. She advanced her career with false claims of victimization. That's over. She's never going to be believed again that white folk are targeting her for being black, and given that she's levied accusations against virtually every organization/institution she's been associated with, I'd be surprised if any search committee anywhere for any significant position even puts her resume on the table.

Last, she has been revealed as white, an identity she spend a decade concealing and denying. She can "identify" as black all she wants, she's still white with color sprayed on. Which racial community opens the door for her after the media moves on (probably by tomorrow, if not today) and the "ask Rachel" twitter hashtag jokes stop?

I'm sure her son does "have her back." What an odd and twisted thing for a parent to say about her child, as if it is her child's job to protect her! At least now, no thanks to her, her son has been relieved of the responsibility of protecting her lies.

And as for basking in the media glow....she grew more reckless and crazier with every interview, which did not go unnoticed. I'm glad, actually, that the media treated her unseriously and let her put on her bizarre freak show unimpeded.
 
  • #783
May I ask, if you feel okay with answering, do you know why your sister turned out that way? Did she suffer any trama as a child?

I don't mind answering. She experienced no trauma that I know of. (Obviously, unspoken trauma in children is always possible.) She was different from birth. Doctors never knew what to do with her. Unfortunately, children's mental health was not something really talked about back then, and we lived in a small city. I have worked with abused, neglected, and sexually abused children at the county advocacy center and of course, I know abuse manifests differently in every person. I do not get the feeling that she suffered any severe trauma as a child, but I won't hang my hat on that...because I suppose there is no way to know for sure. She will say she was never harmed as a child. In fact, she has seemed baffled as to why anyone thinks she was. (In her mind, she is normal.)

Long story short...I don't think she really turned out that way. I think she was born with the predilection to be that way. I think with the right help in early childhood, her lifer might have been different.
 
  • #784
I'm feeling pretty sure this is going to morph into a reality/talk/something show, where she can be the star, and people will watch, and she will be on the cover of People mag, and talked about on KMZ, and interviewed on Dr Phil, and it will all pay off in the long run.
That is how we operate in the ole US of A now, really the whole world, I can see her in the UK, talking the talk.
All MOO only
 
  • #785
EXCLUSIVE: Rachel Dolezal was in a SEX TAPE - her ex-husband forced her to perform 'sex acts' in front of the camera against her will, she claimed in court papers

Rachel Dolezal married African American physical therapist Kevin Moore in 2000
Their marriage ended five years later in a bitter court battle
She claims in court documents she suffered 'years' of 'physical, emotional, sexual and verbal abuse' at his hands and offered the sex tape as proof
Her brother Joshua wrote in his memoir that his sister told him, 'Sometimes he’s on top of me before I’m even awake'
Moore denied the claims of abuse and friends describe him as a committed Christian who was deeply distressed by his ex-wife's 'wild accusations'


His former flame furthermore accused him of being a danger to Franklin. The papers reveal that, when the boy came home for a visit to his father's home in 2005 with a bruise to his face, Dolezal immediately reported him to the police.

Moore insisted, however, that the child had fallen accidentally and police never charged him.

The divorce was finalized in April 2005 and the court agreed Moore was a responsible dad who posed no threat to his son, awarding him joint custody of Franklin, who is now 13.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ainst-claimed-court-papers.html#ixzz3dKbzWGRw
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Daily Mail Online has also seen a 2005 worksheet from the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare Family and Children's Services which lists Dolezal's ethnicity as 'non-Hispanic' and 'white.'

The DM comments are quite negative.

And our questions have been answered:

Rachel Dolezal Identifies as Medium Spray Tan

According to TMZ, Rachel Dolezal—the former Spokane, Wash. NAACP leader who lied for years about being black—is a frequent customer at Spokane’s Palm Beach Tan, where she gets spray tans to darken her skin. Well, of course. TMZ’s source says Dolezal prefers the “medium” shade of the Mystic Tan brand.
http://gawker.com/rachel-dolezal-identifies-as-medium-spray-tan-1711927604

http://www.tmz.com/2015/06/17/rachel-dolezal-spray-tanning-salon-black/

The cost ... a reasonable $30 a dip. There are also packages of $60 a month for unlimited visits.

Obviously, it's not fool proof, but it will probably get you stopped in Beverly Hills.

Check out Rachel's tap dance around tanning during her NBC interview. Pretty damn funny.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/06/17/rachel-dolezal-spray-tanning-salon-black/#ixzz3dKhS1XUc


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...el-dolezal-draws-ire-of-transracial-adoptees/

Rachel Dolezal draws ire of transracial adoptees
“You’re turning something that is a historical experience into something that’s almost being made a joke,” Kimberly McKee told The Washington Post.

McKee, 31, is the assistant director of the Korean American Adoptee Adoptive Parent Network and a professor who studies transracial adoption — when a child of one race is adopted by the family of another. She was adopted from South Korea when she was five months old; she grew up in the suburbs of Rochester, N.Y.; and she is one of about two dozen adoptees, adoptive parents and academics who signed “An Open Letter: Why Co-opting ‘Transracial’ in the Case of Rachel Dolezal is Problematic.”

https://medium.com/@Andy_Marra/an-o...of-rachel-dolezal-is-problematic-249f79f6d83c
As members of the adoption community — particularly those of us who identify as transracial adoptees — we are deeply alarmed by the gross mischaracterization of this term. We find the misuse of “transracial,” describing the phenomenon of a white woman assuming perceived markers of “blackness” in order to pass as “black,” to be erroneous, ahistorical, and dangerous.

Transracial is a term that has long since been defined as the adoption of a child that is of a different race than the adoptive parents. The term most often refers to children of color adopted by white families in the Global North, and has been extensively examined and documented for more than 50 years by academics and members of the adoption triad: adoptees, birthparents, and adoptive parents.

Dolezal and others have perpetuated the false notion that a person can simply choose to identify as a different race or ethnicity. As extensive evidence-based research and first-person narratives have shown, we do not live in a so-called “post-racial society.” Damaging forces like racism make it virtually impossible for those with black or brown bodies to simply “put on” or “take off” race in the same or similar manner that Dolezal has employed. For transracial adoptees, navigating and negotiating the racism in our families, schools, and communities is a regular and compulsory part of our
 
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Being able to shift one’s race is a privilege. Ms. Dolezal’s masquerade illustrates that however much she may empathize with African-Americans, she is not one, because black people in America cannot shed their race. We cannot proclaim the black race a nebulous concept, while strictly policing whiteness and the privileges of that identity. I will accept Ms. Dolezal as black like me only when society can accept me as white like her.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/rachel-dolezals-harmful-masquerade.html?_r=0

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...opted-sister-posts-message-of-support-online/

On Monday, Esther Dolezal posted what appears to be an image of her and Rachel Dolezal on her blog C’est La Vie.

“I fully support my sister,” she wrote.

In the post, Esther Dolezal, who did not return requests for comment, took issue with those who criticized her sister’s racial self-identity.

“It amazes me how fast people are willing to tear down someone who has worked very hard to get where they are,” she wrote. “It amazes me how, after all these years, and the civil rights movement, it still comes down to what color someone is.”

Does it? Or did it come down to whether one tells the truth or fakes, pretends, misleads, misrepresents, falsifies one's life story, creatively adds oppression, makes false accusations and lies her way through life?

http://www.people.com/article/rachel-dolezal-biological-proof-parents-dna-test
"Nothing about being white describes who I am," she said. "So, you know, what's the word for it? The closest thing that I can come to is if you're black or white, I'm black. I'm more black than white. On a level of values, lived experience currently. In this moment, that's the answer."

Yeah but you made up your lived experience, lady...

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/17/us/washington-rachel-dolezal-naacp/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
"I guarantee that she is not going to take a DNA test to prove that (Larry and Ruthanne Dolezal) are not her parents," Ezra Dolezal told CNN's "New Day" on Wednesday. "Because they are, and she doesn't want to be caught going back on her story again."

"I think ... she's too nervous to just admit that she's not been telling the truth," he said. "(That) is why she keeps on making up more and more lies to help fit the story as it goes."
 
  • #788
Kevin Moore and RD contentious divorce is listed on the Idaho repository under his name in Kootenai county - he is listed as living in Bonners Ferry and dob 1978. Looks like she filed in 2003 but it wasn't finalized until '07. Recent activity in 2015. He has an order for $480 p/mo child support. Numerous filings - maybe Gitana can make more sense of all of the filings (and dismissals).

Idcourts.us

Note the site has been down periodically for maintenance so ya might have to check back later for confirmation.
 
  • #789
I was going to say something here about Rachel's copied and derivative artwork. But then I saw a comment on her blog from someone who just left a single racial insult, and an anonymous person in Germany that came perilously close to Holocaust denial. That shut me up completely for fear of aligning myself with such attackers.

I've had a little think about it though. The 'German' commentator seems to be a native English speaker to me - and American English at that. Also, what the person said - that Rachel was just like all the 'Jews in Germany' falsely claiming to be Holocaust victims - sounds more like a comment a racist/far right person who doesn't actually live in Germany would make. Someone, for example, who had never actually been here but got their ideas of what German far-right and racists must be like today from what they had read and heard of about WW2. As far as I can tell from my perspective here, for obvious reasons there simply aren't enough Jews left to provide a big enough focus for the resentment and hatred of such groups. They seem to focus much more on darker-skinned immigrants from Turkey and Eastern Europe now. They don't seem to deny the Holocaust either (a criminal offfense here anyhow). In fact they seem quietly proud. :(

So anyway, it made me think even more. To anyone of a suspicious frame of mind, it might even seem that the 'from Germany' comment was planted there, to make anyone posting doubts about Rachel experiencing racial discrimination and harassment seem on a par with Holocaust deniers? That would certainly discourage a lot of people from saying anything negative...
 
  • #790
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/...my-parents-daughter-119090.html#ixzz3dIklnjTg


Soo.... she perjured herself in the court when she said she was discriminated against because she was white?



Her parents stole some black baby and the bioparents never complained?

Seriously? that's her story? Her bioparents aren't her bioparents but some black people who coincidentally happened to have a blonde caucasian looking child?

“I’m not necessarily saying that I can prove they’re not,” Dolezal responded. “But I don’t know that I can actually prove they are. I mean, the birth certificate is issued a month and a half after I’m born. And certainly there were no medical witnesses to my birth.”

Ummmmmm.....ooookkay?

Dolezal said she had not been asked that question very much before the past few days and reiterated, “Yeah, I do — yeah, I am black.”

IMVHO - Although it caught her by surprise initially.... now, she is very much enjoying this. She is enjoying the attention to HER. She doesn't honestly care about the cause, she is just loving the limelight. She is now famous and she is going to "succeed" even better than before.
 
  • #791
Does anyone know the name of that surrealist? painter who painted the desert nomad with a lion? I can see the painting in my head but can't recall the name. A couple of Rachel's reminded me of his work.
 
  • #792
Does anyone know the name of that surrealist? painter who painted the desert nomad with a lion? I can see the painting in my head but can't recall the name. A couple of Rachel's reminded me of his work.
Rousseau's "The Sleeping Gypsy" perhaps.
 
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I was going to say something here about Rachel's copied and derivative artwork. But then I saw a comment on her blog from someone who just left a single racial insult, and an anonymous person in Germany that came perilously close to Holocaust denial. That shut me up completely for fear of aligning myself with such attackers.

I've had a little think about it though. The 'German' commentator seems to be a native English speaker to me - and American English at that. Also, what the person said - that Rachel was just like all the 'Jews in Germany' falsely claiming to be Holocaust victims - sounds more like a comment a racist/far right person who doesn't actually live in Germany would make. Someone, for example, who had never actually been here but got their ideas of what German far-right and racists must be like today from what they had read and heard of about WW2. As far as I can tell from my perspective here, for obvious reasons there simply aren't enough Jews left to provide a big enough focus for the resentment and hatred of such groups. They seem to focus much more on darker-skinned immigrants from Turkey and Eastern Europe now. They don't seem to deny the Holocaust either (a criminal offfense here anyhow). In fact they seem quietly proud. :(

So anyway, it made me think even more. To anyone of a suspicious frame of mind, it might even seem that the 'from Germany' comment was planted there, to make anyone posting doubts about Rachel experiencing racial discrimination and harassment seem on a par with Holocaust deniers? That would certainly discourage a lot of people from saying anything negative...

There are some "fakers" who claimed to have survived holocaust. Similar to Tania Head that wasn't even in US on 911 but pretended she was in the tower.
Maybe that's what was meant by the comment.

"His memoir was hailed as a classic of Holocaust literature. There were prizes and breathless reviews. But one Swiss journalist smelt a rat and after months of whispers Binjamin Wilkomirski's book was yesterday withdrawn by his German publishers. Fiachra Gibbons and Stephen Moss unravel one of the great literary deceptions."
http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/1999/oct/15/features11.g24
 
  • #796
Rousseau's "The Sleeping Gypsy" perhaps.

I have been googling that for hours, in vain. Thank you. If you're ever in Germany, I owe you several beers.
 
  • #797
There are some "fakers" who claimed to have survived holocaust. Similar to Tania Head that wasn't even in US on 911 but pretended she was in the tower.
Maybe that's what was meant by the comment.

"His memoir was hailed as a classic of Holocaust literature. There were prizes and breathless reviews. But one Swiss journalist smelt a rat and after months of whispers Binjamin Wilkomirski's book was yesterday withdrawn by his German publishers. Fiachra Gibbons and Stephen Moss unravel one of the great literary deceptions."
http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/1999/oct/15/features11.g24

Yes, I read his book. But if I recollect correctly, he was an adopted boy in Switzerland? The comment seemed much more like someone pretending to be a German racist to me. But of course I can't say for certain. I'm in Germany but not a member of any far-right, racist groups.
 
  • #798
I think she is truly delusional and truly delusional people cant be confronted by their lies. It does no good. My sister is delusional at times. Truly crazy people are crazy because they believe their stories.

Now, they do respond to jail. They still believe their stories, but they understand that certain thoughts and behaviors will land them in jail, and they don't like jail.

This is what I have read in how to deal with delusional people.
 
  • #799
Yes, I read his book. But if I recollect correctly, he was an adopted boy in Switzerland? The comment seemed much more like someone pretending to be a German racist to me. But of course I can't say for certain. I'm in Germany but not a member of any far-right, racist groups.

He wrote a book about surviving Holocaust but doesn't appear that anything in the book was real.
 
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