WA - Civil rights activist Rachel Dolezal pretending to be black, parents say #1

[jjenny]

I am wondering if she might come up with something about her being the result of an affair next? With a black father who she knows is definitely black but unfortunately can't be traced?

Unfortunately for her, she is blue eyed, blonde, and looks exactly like her older brother.

 

[jjenny]

I very easily found the sister's blogspot through a quick google search via social media. The first 2-3 chronological entries are interesting, and give a bit of family history and dynamics.

Interesting indeed.

 

[zwiebel]

From Elley Mae's link. I feel sorry for this dad.

The divorce was finalized in April 2005 and the court agreed Moore was a responsible dad who posed no threat to his son, awarding him joint custody of Franklin, who is now 13.

 

[Hope4More]

Interesting indeed.

She's deleted the blog posts relating to living with Rachel and being kicked out for lying, and the posts about constantly stealing and lying and being sent away by her parents, and about stealing and sleeping around at the group home, and those about being kissed and touched for the first time (no, she doesn't say it was by her brother).

I was surprised to see all that still online when I did. I think the Washington Post article linking to her blog clued her in she wasn't helping Rachel or herself by spilling it all out there.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I didn't realize there was a discussion thread about Ms. Dolezal. The woman disgusts me no end, and I'd rather not give her another platform to spew her lies. RD is :crazy: and in need of psychiatric intervention.

 

[gitana1]

http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-ne...ed-with-dolezals-unapologetic-stance/33620758

JMO I think many journalists are doing a disservice dragging Caitlyn Jenner and trans-anything into the conversation because this is not about transracial, it's about lying. It's about inventing a whole fictional past where her ancestors were oppressed African American slaves and where she presents her weave as an example of authentic AA hair, and some guy she met volunteering a few years ago is her father and how she's been struggling with racism all her life because she's black, how she began to identify as black as a child, no, five years ago when she adopted her brother, no, she already did ten years ago when her husband forced her to pose as a white person, no in 2007 she was biracial...

If she was transracial she wouldn't have had to lie about anything, she could have said, "my parents are white but I identify with the AA community", and maybe that wouldn't have made her the chair or the president of anything but at least she'd still have her integrity.

And why did she say that she was born in a teepee if she doesn't even believe that the Dolezals who used to live in a teepee had anything to do with her parentage? how does she know where she was born if she doesn't know who her parents are?

JMO she will suffer no lasting consequences because of this. The people of Spokane may be fed up with her but she'll go somewhere else and spin tales of how she's discriminated against because she's transracial and it's like she's getting the best of both worlds because now she can be a victim of both racism against the black and against the white and against everything in between. No one will dare to say anything against her because all criticism directed at her will be used as evidence of closed-mindedness and the need to evolve the racial discussion into higher levels of nonsense.

I totally agree greed with you. And it bothers me greatly.

 

[jjenny]

I was surprised to see all that still online when I did. I think the Washington Post article linking to her blog clued her in she wasn't helping Rachel or herself by spilling it all out there.

There are still posts on her blog worth reading. She writes that she got into a rage and broke her phone. She had no money so she asked her parents to add her to their phone plan and send her a phone.
She was staying with Rachel. Rachel found out about the phone and kicked her out.

 

[gitana1]

I don't mind answering. She experienced no trauma that I know of. (Obviously, unspoken trauma in children is always possible.) She was different from birth. Doctors never knew what to do with her. Unfortunately, children's mental health was not something really talked about back then, and we lived in a small city. I have worked with abused, neglected, and sexually abused children at the county advocacy center and of course, I know abuse manifests differently in every person. I do not get the feeling that she suffered any severe trauma as a child, but I won't hang my hat on that...because I suppose there is no way to know for sure. She will say she was never harmed as a child. In fact, she has seemed baffled as to why anyone thinks she was. (In her mind, she is normal.)

Long story short...I don't think she really turned out that way. I think she was born with the predilection to be that way. I think with the right help in early childhood, her lifer might have been different.

Thank you. Very scary really.

Does anyone know the name of that surrealist? painter who painted the desert nomad with a lion? I can see the painting in my head but can't recall the name. A couple of Rachel's reminded me of his work.

Dali.

ETA never mind. I see you found it! I was honking about a series of paintings Dali painted with lions in a desert looking background!

 

[Hope4More]

There are still posts on her blog worth reading. She writes that she got into a rage and broke her phone. She had no money so she asked her parents to add her to their phone plan and send her a phone.
She was staying with Rachel. Rachel found out about the phone and kicked her out.

You're right. Weird, the Back Story post about that poofed and then returned, at least for me.

She lied to Rachel (called it her "cover story") that their parents hadn't done anything for her for Christmas, though they had agreed to put her on their phone plan (what horrible parents). She didn't tell Rachel she had asked her parents for help and Rachel only found out because a sibling contacted her about activating the plan.

Lying and lying by omission, though maybe what bothered Rachel the most was that her sister had been in contact with their "hated" parents.

Maybe the timing of the contact was a bit awkward for Rachel, as their brother had recently been arrested on those child abuse charges?

 

[Hope4More]

I didn't realize there was a discussion thread about Ms. Dolezal. The woman disgusts me no end, and I'd rather not give her another platform to spew her lies. RD is :crazy: and in need of psychiatric intervention.

She does seem to be in search of another platform, but I doubt sleuthing forums suit her interests.

For her LE is who you lie to out of self interest, even if that means you increase the very racial tensions you claim to be intent on resolving, and truth is what you unapologetically say is too fluid to be understood by ordinary folk.

Nah. Her next platform will be a TLC style reality show that people watch for the same reason they used to pay a nickel to see sideshow freaks. Or maybe, now that's she invented herself as bisexual, she's hoping for a gay rights advocate gig somewhere. Good luck with that, Rachel.

 

[menmo]

The root could be her. I mentioned earlier in the thread that I have a sister who is a pathological liar with a personality disorder(s.) She spread things like cancer in my family. My oldest sister is STILL screwed up and estranged from my parents, because of the lies she fabricated in our childhood. She pitted people against others, and told lies and lies, so that her world could be the world that survived. My family has been fractured my whole life, because of one person who is mentally ill.

It's very possible that her parents or the family dynamic could have been abusive, repressive, etc. BUT, I don't know if I buy it. I feel like she could have been the root of dysfunction. People like her start early, from very young ages.

When I hear you speak of your sister I feel like you're in my family, only we ride what I say is the roller coaster from hell with a male family member and have for years. Ours lies about our family and what he experienced with one side of his family has now been turned around and he says it's the other side of the family that committed the offenses against him. Myself, along with others in our family, are truly flabbergasted. I have had no contact with him for a couple of years and it's been somewhat peaceful but people still insist on telling us what he's doing and saying. He was traumatized as a young child, in my opinion, but drugs and alcohol haven't helped him improve either.
I know he was taken to a psychologist when he was younger and I personally have spoken to him about talking to someone again, about three years ago. He refuses. He doesn't have the problem, everyone else does.
I'm sorry you have to deal with this.

POLITICO (@politico) tweeted at 3:30am - 17 Jun 15:

Rachel Dolezal: No 'biological proof' I'm my parents' daughter politi.co/1em1xwa | AP Photo pic.twitter.com/cqx3KQS3uZ (https://twitter.com/politico/status/610982751563550722?s=17)

I am wondering if she might come up with something about her being the result of an affair next? With a black father who she knows is definitely black but unfortunately can't be traced?

I have been wondering when this would be said by her. I thought early on she was hinting at an affair of her Mother's that resulted in her birth, but I haven't believed it. After all she calls her father her step father.
She is so disrespectful to her parents. Sometimes I think parents do emotionally harm their children but I don't get that feeling from Rachel's parents. I think they did the best they could do with what they were given.
It appears from my view that the biological brother and Rachel resented the fact that the parents adopted children.
As for the guardianship of her brother, wasn't he 16 or 7 when that happened? I have seen comments on news articles wondering how she got custody of him if the parents home life was a good one. If he was 16 or 17 I think right or wrong the court would take what he wanted into consideration, more so than if he was younger. I also think possibly the parents may not have fought it to hard, if at all, because after all that age he's pretty much capable of doing what he wants anyway. No need in making him accuse them, also. I think he's been brainwashed by Rachel to believe what she wants him to and I think it started young. What an evil b she is.

My thoughts to the parents and family that she doesn't claim or want anything to do with: Let her stay gone. Give yourself some much needed peace. This is her demon to fight, not yours.
JMO

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

http://praxisradio509.podomatic.com/entry/2014-12-21T20_44_12-08_00

Rachel Dolezal and fictitious 'dad's Deep South exodus': Newly uncovered interview shows her claiming she had a black father who fled because a white cop was hunting him

In an interview from earlier this year, Rachel Dolezal repeatedly lies about her family
She claims her father is a black man who was forced to flee the Deep South after assaulting a police officer
She also claims he was in the Marines for 24 years and there were three attempts on his life by white subordinates


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tes-tried-kill-three-times.html#ixzz3dBdRdfSp
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So, anyone want to explain to me how MAKING UP fake LE vs black issues and white Marine stories are "helping" civil rights and the true victims of racial discrimination? I don't think making up stories helps the cause. But hey...so, she can claim to want to help the black community all she wants, but it goes to show SHE was most important to ...herself.


And that is what stops the "I self-identify" as a black woman claim she is making, at least in my mind. It's one thing to want to be one...but flat out lying about life experiences is just that, lying.

No sympathy from me!
JMO.

 

[Donjeta]

You're right. Weird, the Back Story post about that poofed and then returned, at least for me.

She lied to Rachel (called it her "cover story") that their parents hadn't done anything for her for Christmas, though they had agreed to put her on their phone plan (what horrible parents). She didn't tell Rachel she had asked her parents for help and Rachel only found out because a sibling contacted her about activating the plan.

Lying and lying by omission, though maybe what bothered Rachel the most was that her sister had been in contact with their "hated" parents.

Maybe the timing of the contact was a bit awkward for Rachel, as their brother had recently been arrested on those child abuse charges?

OMG, Rachel doesn't approve of lying? that's a first.

 

[Aynia]

OMG, Rachel doesn't approve of lying? that's a first.

That woman doesn't exist SERIOUSLY? LOL

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[popsicle]

Investigators hired by the city to probe a whistleblower complaint determined that Dolezal had released the names of citizens who made complaints against police officers in violation of a confidentiality agreement she signed, and also engaged in "workplace harassment," City Council President Ben Stuckart said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015...dType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter

 

[Hope4More]

One last thought.....wonder if her art sales are affected? Now that she can't sell herself as a black artist?

Whatever. Glad I found this thread- I've enjoyed y'all's thoughts- but Rachel's had her 15 minutes and I'm gonna help make her go away by signing off on all things Rachel & Co.

Glad to see the post above, that Spokane is uncovering more of her unethical / illegal activities.

 

[Donjeta]

POKANE, Wash. — When she moved into her uncle’s basement in the largely white town of Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, in 2004, Rachel A. Dolezal was still blond and pale-skinned and identified herself as a white woman — one who had left a black husband and had a biracial child.

But within a few years, her already deep commitment to black causes and culture intensified. Co-workers and relatives began hearing from her or others that her background was mixed-race — and even that she had called herself black.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/17/us/rachel-dolezal-nbc-today-show.html?_r=0

There was a tepee, her uncle, Daniel said, but that was years before Rachel was born, in the early 1970s, when her parents were first married. “Larry and Ruthanne were kind of the quintessential Jesus people, hippies, back to nature, and they set up a tepee and lived in it for a year,” Daniel Dolezal said. “Drove my parents crazy, but nobody was born in the tepee.”

In police reports around the region about complaints she made beginning in 2005, she is identified as white. By 2009, the reports call her a black woman. Former co-workers at the education institute and the N.A.A.C.P. said she told them she was partly black.

In 2008, she was hired as the education coordinator at the North Idaho Human Rights Education Institute and worked there until 2010. “Ms. Dolezal portrayed herself as African-American at that time,” the institute said in a statement on Tuesday.

“She was extremely gifted and produced very, very powerful exhibits for the institute” recalled Tony Stewart, a retired North Idaho College professor and longtime civil rights activist. He said he and others who met Dolezal in 2008 were left with the clear impression she was black.

About five years ago, she also took guardianship of one of her adoptive siblings, Izaiah, who was then a teenager. “She decided that he was being abused, so she basically showed up and took him, and essentially said if you want him back, you’re going to have to sue,” her uncle said.

And some of the questions, or doubts, about her racial identity were also being deliberately spread. A columnist at The Spokesman-Review in Spokane, Shawn Vestal, said that he and other people at the paper were approached by a private investigator in early June, more than a week before the first news reports about Ms. Dolezal’s racial identity.

“He did have some of the evidence, or said he did, about what her parents would say about her identity,” said Mr. Vestal, who said he had agreed with the investigator that his name would not be made public.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Investigators hired by the city to probe a whistleblower complaint determined that Dolezal had released the names of citizens who made complaints against police officers in violation of a confidentiality agreement she signed, and also engaged in "workplace harassment," City Council President Ben Stuckart said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015...dType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter

Hmmm...

So a lying liar that lies, and unethical, to boot. Who would have guessed?
Releasing the names? Again I ask, this is helping the community "how?" (JMO, it's not.)

SMH.

Waiting to see what else is going to come out before the 15 minutes is up................................

Oh, JMO, etc

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Black Like Me: A White Man's Experience of Segregation

By Newsweek Staff 6/16/15 at 9:38 AM

Former NAACP leader Rachel Dolezal is not the first American to cause controversy by changing her race. John Howard Griffin, through the use of medication and ultraviolet rays, disguised himself as a black man in the segregation-era South to better understand the experience of being black in America. Newsweek reviewed his much-studied book, Black Like Me, on October 9, 1961...

http://www.newsweek.com/black-me-white-mans-experience-ofsegregation-343156

I read Black Like Me in high school (1964-68).

 

[Donjeta]

“My life has been one of survival,” she continued, “and the decisions I have made along the way, including my identification, have been to survive.”

Dolezal later appeared on MSNBC, where she was asked whether she was “a con artist”.


“I don’t think so,” she replied. “I don’t think anything that I have done with regards to the movement, my work, my life and my identity. It’s all been very thoughtful and careful.”

She went on to say that “sometimes decisions have been made for survival reasons or to protect people that I love,” but did not provide specifics as to what circumstances may have led her to identify as a black woman out of concern for her own or another’s survival.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/16/rachel-dolezal-today-show-interview

Dolezal gained custody of her adopted brother Izaiah in 2010, and has since portrayed him as her son, telling the Today show that it was around this time that her self-identification as a black woman “really solidified”.

“He said, ‘Well, you’re my real mom,’ and he’s in high school, and for that to be something that is plausible I certainly can’t be seen as white and be Izaiah’s mom,” Dolezal said.

I actually think it was the other way around. It's not that she had to be black to be a plausible parental figure to Izaiah but being a parental figure to Izaiah added to her own plausibility as a black person... Any white woman can have a black child as she already knew very well, having one... But if you tell people you gained custody of your brother and your brother is black, people will assume that your parents are black and so you are too.