WA - Civil rights activist Rachel Dolezal pretending to be black, parents say #1

[Hope4More]

Joshua: "Never apologize, I tell myself. Flounder and flop all you want, but never explain."

 

[Hope4More]

Hmm. Finished. In afterword he thanks his parents for their "love and support, " no mention of Rachel.

That he writes of Rachel as an adult at all is odd in the context of his book, and even more odd that all he focuses on is her separation and divorce. He claims responsibility in part for the divorce, and uses her divorce as an awkward and unsuitable metaphor for his own ponderous soul searching at the time.

 

[SugarQueen]

Ummm, the wedding photo certainly didn't look like they eloped !

 

[Hope4More]

Ummm, the wedding photo certainly didn't look like they eloped !

Curious, eh? Along with a mother denied education who has a degree, an abused sister who isn't legally entitled to take her baby with her when she leaves but who ends up with full custody. Among other oddities.

Is that called poetic license or is it flat out distorting the truth to make his own rather pedestrian story sound more interesting or exotic?

 

[SophieRose]

Many people who elope have wedding ceremonies/receptions later, that's not uncommon at all. I wonder where her parents were living at the time.

 

[katydid23]

Her mother has a degree and is an administrator at a Christian school.

http://www.thewesternnews.com/membe...cle_d93f2290-176e-11e4-91c3-001a4bcf887a.html

[Ruthanne] Dolezal grew up in Libby, where she attended Kootenai Valley Christian School as a child. Before returning to the school to teach, she received a teaching degree in interdisciplinary studies from Western Governor’s University to teach kindergarten through eighth grade. She gained cross-cultural teaching experience while spending several years educating students in South Africa, Colorado and Georgia.

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Just checked it's an oline university out of SLC UT.

So I don't understand Joshua's accusations that his parents would not let them read books and would be angry if they wanted to read the encyclopedia he bought. Wouldn't most teachers/educators love their kids to read books?

 

[Hope4More]

Apparently Rachel tried to delay the NAACP executive meeting unilaterally, without the Committee's input or approval. The Committee rebuffed her move and will meet tomorrow as scheduled.

Rachel is toast.

 

[jjenny]

I think we should take the book with a grain of salt. Joshua has a PHD. His sister Rachel got Master's degree. So both of them are well educated. If parents didn't want them to read or to study, seem very unlikely both of them would end up with advanced degrees.

 

[Hope4More]

I think we should take the book with a grain of salt. Joshua has a PHD. His sister Rachel got Master's degree. So both of them are well educated. If parents didn't want them to read or to study, seem very unlikely both of them would end up with advanced degrees.

I agree about that grain of salt.


Joshua doesn't say his parents were opposed to the children getting an education or to studying. I think he greatly exaggerates many aspects of what went on in his childhood home, including his father getting purple from rage if he saw his son reading when there was work to be done.

 

[Cubby]

Apparently she did not claim to be black when she applied to college. It was assumed based on her focus before she was accepted.

I am no where near caught up with the thread, so forgive me if this has already been answered. Did she claim to be black when she got her scholarship(s)? Did her parents know she was 'presumed black' when she got her scholarship?

Not that I am defending Rachel's actions, her lies are despical imo. However, I am questioning why the timing of her parents outing her coincides with it possibly giving them a leg up in a legal action against here.

I'm also a little confused on this court battle between she and her family over an adult sibling. He is an adult, why can't he choose where he wants to live?

Just outloud thoughts, but why couldn't she advocate as herself? And why did she apparently choose area's/states with a relatively small number of AA's?

 

[SophieRose]

Curious, eh? Along with a mother denied education who has a degree, an abused sister who isn't legally entitled to take her baby with her when she leaves but who ends up with full custody. Among other oddities.

Is that called poetic license or is it flat out distorting the truth to make his own rather pedestrian story sound more interesting or exotic?

The college from where his mother got her degree is an online university, not established until 1997, so she didn't get her education until after he went away to college.

 

[Cubby]

She sounds very troubled but the article kind of makes me wonder how many of these other tragedies she made up.




Then she goes on to tell the reporter all about it.


I guess some weird punishment by skin color scheme might make a person want to change theirs but the question is, is it true?

Respectfully snipped. Just an outloud thought. The words punishment by skin color bring to mind a question I had about how Rachel might have felt when her parents adopted AA children. For some reason I wondered if part of Rachel's 'identity crisis' for lack of a better idea on how to say it had to do with her parents choosing children of a different race than their own. I could be wrong but I get the impression Rachel felt some lack of worth, most likely imagined, when her parents adopted/fostered.

This woman clearly has serious problems if she has to pretend to be someone she isn't despite her accomplishments. Kind of reminds me of Michelle Carter just with different manners in pretending to be something they aren't.

 

[waitin'4thewrld2chg]

To me, it looks like a wig.

Oh, could be. In which case, a strong wind could take her racial identity.

 

[Hope4More]

FWIW, Joshua doesn't allege that his parents used corporeal punishment on their biological children, and the only mention he makes of his adopted siblings is to say his parents adopted them for less than altruistic reasons.

 

[gitana1]

Read earlier tdy, Ms D said ~ doing hair is her bread & butter.
IIUC, that means for $$$, so did she/does she hold license?
Wait a sec - how old was that article, was it in ID or WA? Can't find link.

Is she a licensed cosmetologist in Washington? https://fortress.wa.gov/dol/dolprod/bpdLicenseQuery/
"No matches were found for your search ...
Information Current as of 06/12/2015 3:05AM Pacific Time."

Was she a licensed cosmetician in Idaho?
http://ibol.idaho.gov/IBOL/BoardPage.aspx?Bureau=COS
W a quick glance, did not find a way/place to verify current ofexpired license. How long ago did she move to WA? Depending on renewal period, say 3 yrs, could she still be licensed? IDK.

I can;t imagine black clients going to her now.

I am no where near caught up with the thread, so forgive me if this has already been answered. Did she claim to be black when she got her scholarship(s)? Did her parents know she was 'presumed black' when she got her scholarship?

Not that I am defending Rachel's actions, her lies are despical imo. However, I am questioning why the timing of her parents outing her coincides with it possibly giving them a leg up in a legal action against here.

I'm also a little confused on this court battle between she and her family over an adult sibling. He is an adult, why can't he choose where he wants to live?

Just outloud thoughts, but why couldn't she advocate as herself? And why did she apparently choose area's/states with a relatively small number of AA's?

Here's what was reported:

Lawrence Dolezal said his daughter was involved in Voice of Calvary, a “racial reconciliation community development project where blacks and whites lived together,” while at Belhaven University in Jackson, Miss.

“You speak and sound and act and take on the mannerisms of the culture you live in,” he said. When Rachel applied to Howard University to study art with a portfolio of “exclusively African American portraiture,” the university “took her for a black woman” and gave her a full scholarship.
“You’ve got a white woman coming in that got a full-ride scholarship to the black Harvard,” Lawrence Dolezal said. “And ever since then she’s been involved in social justice advocacy for African Americans. She assimilated into that culture so strongly that that’s where she transferred her identity.”http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/12/naacp-rachel-dolezal-faked-being-black_n_7568856.html

I don't think her scholarship was based on race and people who went to school with her there said she presented as a white woman: http://jezebel.com/when-rachel-dolezal-attended-howard-university-she-was-1710941472

Her parents and others state she began pretending to be black about 10 years ago.

Respectfully snipped. Just an outloud thought. The words punishment by skin color bring to mind a question I had about how Rachel might have felt when her parents adopted AA children. For some reason I wondered if part of Rachel's 'identity crisis' for lack of a better idea on how to say it had to do with her parents choosing children of a different race than their own. I could be wrong but I get the impression Rachel felt some lack of worth, most likely imagined, when her parents adopted/fostered.

This woman clearly has serious problems if she has to pretend to be someone she isn't despite her accomplishments. Kind of reminds me of Michelle Carter just with different manners in pretending to be something they aren't.

Maybe it had to do with feeling ignored or lost in the shuffle. People who do things like this typically feel less than.

 

[al66pine]

My word! What's next! Is there any life experience she hasn't claimed... Jmociao

Has she led a group to the top of Mt Everest yet? No oxygen and barefoot? LOL.
I coulda missed it.

 

[Donjeta]

Here's what the parents report of her education

Dolezal's father, Larry, told The Press by email Wednesday that Dolezal worked hard at her education. She graduated with a 4.0 GPA and was one of many co-valedictorians from Christian Liberty Academy Satellite School.
"We chose the option with parental oversight and a complete high school transcript processed through CLASS," Larry wrote. "Rachel required minimal supervision, because she was a highly motivated and responsible student."
He noted that his daughter graduated with high honors at the top of her class and received many awards for her work while she was earning her bachelor's degree from Belhaven and then her Master of Fine Arts degree from Howard University in Washington, D.C.
"She worked hard at her education and went above and beyond completing her art assignments," Larry wrote. "There is much positive we could share regarding Rachel's stellar academic and art achievements. We are saddened she has chosen to misrepresent her ethnicity."

http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_385adfeb-76f3-5050-98b4-d4bf021c423f.html

 

[Donjeta]

This explains her ability to pull off the hairstyle:

(snip)

Kelly: So you’re sacrificing money and income for yourself, to take on more unpaid leadership in the community?

Rachel: [...] I’ll also be cutting back on my hair clients. Being an ethnic hair stylist is really a community service, as well as bread and butter for me. I can fall back on doing hair when I need to make an extra buck.

Doing hair is like a social outreach sometimes and many of my hair clients are my friends or younger girls I mentor. We get to know each other well, especially when I’m doing a six-to-eight-hour braid job. (She laughs.)
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I can't be the only one who is bothered by the notion of Rachel being a mentor to anyone.

 

[wenwe4]

According to the Washington state dept of licensing, RD does not have a license as a barber, cosmetologist, esthetician, nor manicurist.

https://fortress.wa.gov/dol/dolprod/bpdLicenseQuery/lqsSearchResults.aspx

She does have 9 entries for municipal, district court cases listing her as a defendant (presumably for traffic tickets). The most recent being 6/1/15 in Whitman county (near Pullman where her brother/son might be attending school).

Dw.courts.wa.gov

 

[wenwe4]

It appears RD overstepped her boundaries by trying to cancel the NAACP meeting tomorrow night. She is being called out by the Executive Committee Chair stating she does not have authority to cancel or postpone the meeting as it is a fixed date 3rd Monday of each month.

http://www.krem.com/story/news/loca...06/14/dolezal-cancels-naacp-meeting/71217040/

Here is another email related to same thing

http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-ne...ority-to-cancel-naacp-monday-meeting/33578690