WA - Civil rights activist Rachel Dolezal pretending to be black, parents say #1

Status
Not open for further replies.
  • #961
I am deeply disturbed by the letter I received today from the Mayor and Spokane City Council President requesting my resignation as Chair of the Office of Police Ombudsman Commission.

I wonder what made this different from the NAACP where she was so happy to pass the baton to her VP just a couple of days ago.

I standby my work on behalf of the citizens of Spokane to further justice and promote civilian oversight of law enforcement.

I know the report concentrates on the misconduct findings and not on the good work they accomplished (if any) but they spent so much time in this volunteer operation managing office policies and drafts and minutes that it's hard to see when they actually did much furthering of justice.

I am sincerely troubled by the short-sided conclusions that have so quickly been made with this report.
Her fresh fame meant that more people read it more quickly. No doubt it's troubling for her but doesn't mean that the conclusions are wrong...

I urge the people of Spokane to take a close look at the timing and intentions of the investigation and request for my resignation.

This is a neat sentence because it implies so much misconduct, skeevy motives, discrimination, injustice, police coverups, because she's such a brave freedom fighter... without actually saying what she thinks happened. Of course the timing and the intentions of the investigation has to do with when the harassed worker was finally fed up enough to file an official complaint.

I will continue to do all I can to promote greater transparency and accountability for law enforcement both locally and nationally."

So that's why she and her pals falsified the meeting minutes. To promote transparency and accountability.
 
  • #962
She was in labour for four day! My, my ... what a little trooper. Is there a doctor in the land who would stand by and let that happen? I don't think so.
Prodromal labor can last weeks, and early labor can be days. :-/

Totally not defending the liar, just saying.
 
  • #963
Kunta Kinte has some questions: http://www.tmz.com/2015/06/17/rachel-dolezal-levar-burton-video-black-in-america-roots/

Anti-racism activist Tim Wise revealed that secretly-white NAACP chapter head Rachel Dolezal tried to stop him from speaking at a college because she felt Caucasians shouldn’t talk about racism.What do you think?

“She was trying to keep me from coming to speak at Eastern Washington University, where she was a part-time professor, because in her estimation white folks can’t speak with any legitimacy to issues of racism,” Wise said in an interview with SiriusXM Radio host Mark Thompson. “Let the irony marinate there for a minute.”

Anti-racism activist Tim Wise revealed that secretly-white NAACP chapter head Rachel Dolezal tried to stop him from speaking at a college because she felt Caucasians shouldn’t talk about racism.What do you think?

“She was trying to keep me from coming to speak at Eastern Washington University, where she was a part-time professor, because in her estimation white folks can’t speak with any legitimacy to issues of racism,” Wise said in an interview with SiriusXM Radio host Mark Thompson. “Let the irony marinate there for a minute.”



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/18/a...-people-cant-talk-about-racism/#ixzz3dUD1Ld5N


http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/jeze...ews-paid-for-rachel-dolezal-interviews/265195
An NBC News spokesperson tells us, “Rachel Dolezal was not paid – period.” Not only was this a cash-free interview, NBC didn’t even pay a licensing fee for photos or videos, which is often used to couch pay-for-play TV news interviews. NBC did pay for her flight, hotel stay and some meals, common in the booking process.
 
  • #964
I am soooooooo sick of hearing her publicly discussing her son be bullied! Is that HELPFUL for him? Is it even true? Or is she exaggerating/lying/creating more drama?

well she's certainly made sure that the bullies now have much more raw material to work from.
 
  • #965
  • #966
“Let the irony marinate there for a minute.”

That is some good stuff there. See above post about her consistency. She would like to be the only white person who addresses racism apparently.
 
  • #967
That is some good stuff there. See above post about her consistency. She would like to be the only white person who addresses racism apparently.

Maybe she'll rebrand, at some point down the line :)
 
  • #968
Eric Deggans, a TV Critic with NPR, did an outstanding segment regarding Dolezal and the appalling interviews being done with her via MSM. He reaches the same conclusions as we have here in terms of what the actual story is and how we should be handling a dialogue about it.

My only significant objection to this piece is the lead in by Robin Young that includes the Shootings at Emanuel Church in Charleston. There is no excuse for that-there is no need to link this fallacy to the unbearable situation in Charleston. Deggans does a beautiful job of completely ignoring the lead in.

LINK HERE
 
  • #969
Eric Deggans, a TV Critic with NPR, did an outstanding segment regarding Dolezal and the appalling interviews being done with her via MSM. He reaches the same conclusions as we have here in terms of what the actual story is and how we should be handling a dialogue about it.

My only significant objection to this piece is the lead in by Robin Young that includes the Shootings at Emanuel Church in Charleston. There is no excuse for that-there is no need to link this fallacy to the unbearable situation in Charleston. Deggans does a beautiful job of completely ignoring the lead in.

LINK HERE

Thank you for the link to the NPR interview. The interview is the most thoughtful, honest, on point interview I've heard/read since this story has become public. MOO
 
  • #970
I really thought that the Rachel Dolezal fiasco would go away pretty quickly. Honestly, I thought we’d all come together, make fun of her, get her out of the paint and go on about our lives trying to help the McKinney kids enjoy pool parties again. But the Devil’s Advocates and capes came out defending Dolezal, saying that she “can” identify however she wants.

And that’s absolutely true – Dolezal “can” identify however she wants. She “can” do whatever she damn well pleases. Because she’s White. And White people live in a such a world of privilege that they can do whatever they want. They can take culture, entire nations and enslave whole swaths of people with zero consequence. So creating a new Black existence is just another level of privilege that Dolezal’s whiteness affords her.

The question isn’t about what Dolezal’s privilege affords her (because the answer is “all of the above”). The question is can I identify as a White person if I want? What’s the application process for me enjoying all of the privileges Whiteness offers?

http://bossip.com/1155357/racheldol...-white/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

29C3271200000578-0-image-a-7_1434690913310.jpg

Yeah she's clearly not Ruthanne's biological daughter...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...blended-family-1996-years-deciding-black.html
 
  • #971
The Root and other sources have uncovered a deleted blog post by RD's sister. It's from January 2014, around when RD kicked her out.

Interesting for several reasons, not least because she exposed RD way back then for lying about being black, and for her hypocrisy.

Interesting as well for what she does and does not say about what happened in the family, though that's way more subjective.
 
  • #972
Her brother is going on trial in August. Most likely, there is no physical evidence, since whatever alleged was supposed to have happened many years ago.
So all the prosecution likely got are allegations, one of which appears to have come from Rachel (even though he isn't going to go on trial for that one). Were they going to call Rachel as a witness to support the claims of the other sister? In what appears to be Rachel's allegations (about 1991) episode, she seems to imply brother was motivated by his sexual attraction to black women. Yet clearly Rachel wasn't black in 1991, and wasn't pretending to be black. She was pale, blue eyed, blonde (as we all can see from the photos).
In 2013, when allegations were made to the police, she would have been pretending to be black.
Seems so very fishy to me.
 
  • #973
Her brother is going on trial in August. Most likely, there is no physical evidence, since whatever alleged was supposed to have happened many years ago.
So all the prosecution likely got are allegations, one of which appears to have come from Rachel (even though he isn't going to go on trial for that one). Were they going to call Rachel as a witness to support the claims of the other sister? In what appears to be Rachel's allegations (about 1991) episode, she seems to imply brother was motivated by his sexual attraction to black women. Yet clearly Rachel wasn't black in 1991, and wasn't pretending to be black. She was pale, blue eyed, blonde (as we all can see from the photos).
In 2013, when allegations were made to the police, she would have been pretending to be black.
Seems so very fishy to me.

Then the irony here is that if the case hinges on a few allegations, and one is from Rachel...well her credibility is definitely up for question now! Don't think a defense team won't be able to weave her character into this now...and the prosecution will have issues because of it.
 
  • #974
Kinda OT: I am thinking out loud here. Recently my brother did the DNA ethnicity test offered by Ancestry.com, and share his results with me. We are 35% Irish, 30% Western European, 20% Scandanavian and 15% Iberian Peninsula. I have never "identified" with being mostly Irish and had no clue I was.

So here is my question: Would Irish people be angry with me if I identified with their nationality? And started carrying on as if I were? Like walking in an Irish parade? My last name is not Irish. I have friends who are half Italian and identify with being Italian.

Granted, I am not perpetuating a fraud or any of that, but I was just wondering if you all identify with your ancestral roots? And would you all change your "identity" to be one more than the other?

I am genuinely interested in what you all have to say. I apologize for being OT. TIA
 
  • #975
Kinda OT: I am thinking out loud here. Recently my brother did the DNA ethnicity test offered by Ancestry.com, and share his results with me. We are 35% Irish, 30% Western European, 20% Scandanavian and 15% Iberian Peninsula. I have never "identified" with being mostly Irish and had no clue I was.

So here is my question: Would Irish people be angry with me if I identified with their nationality? And started carrying on as if I were? Like walking in an Irish parade? My last name is not Irish. I have friends who are half Italian and identify with being Italian.

Granted, I am not perpetuating a fraud or any of that, but I was just wondering if you all identify with your ancestral roots? And would you all change your "identity" to be one more than the other?

I am genuinely interested in what you all have to say. I apologize for being OT. TIA

You need to watch this song for my answer. :)

[video=youtube;TCueMl54FdQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCueMl54FdQ[/video]
 
  • #976
Rachel’s past:


Rachel chose to be home schooled (was a happy child, parents known, accepted, liked)

www.thewesternnews.com ( Local family caught in spotlight)



Rachel Dolezal started her education in the public school system, but chose to be home-schooled.

“Her elementary teachers would say she was a peer mentor,” her mother said. “It was Rachel’s choice to be home-schooled. She wanted to be independent from the peer pressure that she was facing,” her mother explained.

Being home-schooled allowed Rachel the ability to focus on her passion.

“She was and still is a very brilliant artist. She was able to pursue that on her own schedule,” Ruthanne Dolezal said. “If she wanted to spend three days working on a collage she could do that. She couldn’t do that in a public school. One of her public school teachers said she would not have been able to accomplish what she did with her art in the public school setting.”

-------------------------------------

Her uncle Dan came out as gay; her parents supported him and are in close/constant contact with him. Uncle Dan says Rachel wanted everyone in the family to choose sides during her divorce, and was angry when that didn’t happen.


www.ibtimes.com/rachel-dolezals-par...211;childhood-small-white-town-family-1971916
 
  • #977
Kinda OT: I am thinking out loud here. Recently my brother did the DNA ethnicity test offered by Ancestry.com, and share his results with me. We are 35% Irish, 30% Western European, 20% Scandanavian and 15% Iberian Peninsula. I have never "identified" with being mostly Irish and had no clue I was.

So here is my question: Would Irish people be angry with me if I identified with their nationality? And started carrying on as if I were? Like walking in an Irish parade? My last name is not Irish. I have friends who are half Italian and identify with being Italian.

Granted, I am not perpetuating a fraud or any of that, but I was just wondering if you all identify with your ancestral roots? And would you all change your "identity" to be one more than the other?

I am genuinely interested in what you all have to say. I apologize for being OT. TIA

I think there is a massive difference between Identifying with a part of your history, and fabricating a history of oppression. I can't imagine that an Irish person (I am Irish, but I'm not going to speak for all) would care if someone embraced part of their heritage and found a commonality with that. However if that person fabricated a life that included, let's say, trauma and oppression during the Northern Ireland Conflict. Yeah...I think they would have an issue with that. She didn't just choose to "identify"as black. She chose to create a history of oppression and hardship, that didn't exist. And she got ahead for it.
 
  • #978
Putting everything together, one possible version of the truth, giving her some benefit of the doubt:

RD had an unusual but happy enough childhood through age 15-16. Her parents adopted 4 black children in 1994-5, when RD was 15-16. Rachel became genuinely fascinated by black culture because of her new siblings, which is why she chose to attend a racial reconciliation degree program in Mississippi.

Her artwork began to reflect her notions of black culture, she bonded with black mentors, she chose a black husband.

She applied to Howard because of her interest in blacks and their culture, but her application already demonstrated her willingness to blur the lines between interest and appropriation. Howard renewed her scholarship and TA position for a second year even after the obvious truth about her race became obvious on day one.

Some professors, including a well known expert on black female artists, didn't welcome her or appreciate a white woman claiming black identification as an artist. RD was angry about how she was treated by those professors, and after graduation, assumed that Howard would hire her because she was RD, even though she never actually applied for a job.

When a black artist was hired, even though it was for an art specialty she didn't have, Rachel sued Howard. She may well have thought the artist was hired because of being black, but she also clearly believed she was entitled to a job there. Lessons learned.

A few years later, RD's marriage came apart. She accused her husband of every kind of abuse, including extreme violence directed at their son. She expected her family to take sides against her husband but they didn't, with the possible exception of Joshua. They didn't because they didn't believe in divorce, and according to her uncle, they didn't because they were concerned about her baby son and didn't want to lose contact with him by burning their bridges with their son in law.

Rachel didn't forgive them for not taking her side.

Within a few years RD decided that the fastest way to be taken seriously and be successful in the black art world and the civil rights community was to declare herself as at least biracial, which she did in Idaho in her civil rights education position. Soon enough she decided just being biracial wasn't getting her enough attention; she was liked, but her career wasn't advancing.

In 2010 she began making false claims of hate crimes, and she decided having a very black son would be beneficial too, especially since she could screw her parents too on that one. Her brother has already asked to be emancipated; alleging that her parents physically abused him was enough to have the court award her guardianship.

The family split as a result. Joshua expressed his anger to her for the harm she was doing to the family.

In 2013 RD's sister came of age and left the group home she had been sent to after a long series of illegal and troubling behavior, topped off by a charge of grand larceny. She asked to stay with RD and RD said yes. Shortly afterwards RD's sister accused Joshua of molesting her years earlier, and it appears RD claimed to be victimized by him as well.

Early in 2014 RD kicked her sister out for lying to her and for contacting their parents "behind her back." Her sister responded by outing RD as a race-faking lying hypocrite, but erased that from her blog sometime afterwards.

Inferences drawn.
 
  • #979
In January, Rosa Clemente, a black Puerto Rican community organizer, activist, and journalist, who was vice presidential running mate of Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney in 2008, was invited to speak at EWU. The night before Clemente's talk, at a dinner with EWU faculty that included Dolezal, the conversation turned to the Black Lives Matter movement and police brutality. In a Facebook post, Clemente wrote of Dolezal, "She was very clear that BLM movement should only be for Black i.e. African Americans only. I disagreed."

"It was so twisted because Rosa Clemente, yes, she's Latina, but she's also black," Wise told IBTimes. "There are black Latinas, which apparently Rachel Dolezal doesn't get. They're not mutually exclusive categories. This is someone who seeks to police the boundaries of blackness -- and she makes sure that she's within the circle."
http://www.ibtimes.com/rachel-dolez...acism-saying-he-had-no-1971921?rel=most_read9
 
  • #980
I suspect that we are almost done here. What will she do when we dont care any more? Plagiarize more art and try to sell it for thousands of dollars? She is Zelig, as much as I hate bringing Woody Allen into any discussion. IMO it was his most brilliant movie and was a favorite of mine until his actions made me lose my appetite for him.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Staff online

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
99
Guests online
2,364
Total visitors
2,463

Forum statistics

Threads
632,812
Messages
18,632,026
Members
243,303
Latest member
Fractured Truths
Back
Top