WA - Civil rights activist Rachel Dolezal pretending to be black, parents say #2

[Hope4More]

She's back. On my phone and can't link, but new RD interview with Vanity Fair is available online.

VF interviewer didn't ask her about false hate crime reports or other lies, and just as negligent, she reports erroneously that RD's parents started things by outing RD as white.

RD is still unrepentant and delusional. When asked if her actions had harmed the "cause" RD says yes.....because the whole terrible misunderstanding by others of what race means had deprived the Cause of her leadership. Really.

RD also said she had backed off contact with the new head of Spokane's NAACP because she wanted the new leader to find her leadership groove. Really.

She's supporting herself by doing hair 3x a week, and says she wants to write a book because a book-length explanation will pave her way back into the activist community. Really.

 

[Cubby]

Every time I see this thread bumped, I hope to see she's been criminaly charged with something.

 

[zwiebel]

“It’s taken my entire life to negotiate how to identify, and I’ve done a lot of research and a lot of studying,” she says. “I could have a long conversation, an academic conversation about that. I don’t know. I just feel like I didn’t mislead anybody; I didn’t deceive anybody. If people feel misled or deceived, then sorry that they feel that way, but I believe that’s more due to their definition and construct of race in their own minds than it is to my integrity or honesty, because I wouldn’t say I’m African American, but I would say I’m black, and there’s a difference in those terms.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/07/rachel-dolezal-new-interview-pictures-exclusive

 

[Donjeta]

And yet, Dolezal’s claim on black womanhood still seems to be non-negotiable. Even in conversation with an actual black woman on the other end of the line or sitting in her cozy home, Dolezal unequivocally identifies as black. (Never mind the ancestry.com heritage test that arrived on her doorstep the day I visited.)

“It’s taken my entire life to negotiate how to identify, and I’ve done a lot of research and a lot of studying,” she says. “I could have a long conversation, an academic conversation about that. I don’t know. I just feel like I didn’t mislead anybody; I didn’t deceive anybody. If people feel misled or deceived, then sorry that they feel that way, but I believe that’s more due to their definition and construct of race in their own minds than it is to my integrity or honesty, because I wouldn’t say I’m African American, but I would say I’m black, and there’s a difference in those terms.”

This is a peculiar defense. If there is a difference between being black and being African American, it’s one that escapes the vast majority of people I know. When I said as much to Dolezal, she claimed to have received a recent traffic ticket where the police officer marked her race as “black” on the ticket without even asking.

Did she get that ticket locally, where the police officer would have been able to read her interviews and columns or otherwise know about her and her hate crime troubles, and know that she calls herself black?

“It’s been really interesting because a lot of people have been supportive within the N.A.A.C.P., but then there’s also some awkwardness because I went from being president to not-president,” she says. “I’m kind of just keeping a little bit of distance so that Naima can get in her flow of leadership. It’s actually hard because I think there’s a little coldness from her, which is hard to deal with for me, to feel like she doesn’t trust me as much now or something. I don’t know.”

Oh... Naima doesn't trust her...?!?!? I can't understand why...

Here's the current president's interview: http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/jul/06/new-spokane-naacp-president-wants-group-to-move/

When Spokane’s NAACP President Naima Quarles-Burnley talks about Rachel Dolezal, she cries. It’s not dramatic. Her soft voice doesn’t break. And the tears are barely visible. But she does cry.
....
The Spokane chapter of the NAACP is still recovering from the Dolezal episode, which made national headlines. The executive committee has been gutted by a series of departures, and there are outstanding questions about the viability and integrity of the chapter.

Quarles-Burnley is well aware of all of this.

“I think it has hurt our organization because people are now questioning our integrity,” she said. “Not just the integrity of the former president, but the integrity of the organization a whole.”

Quarles-Burnley said she is committed to showing that the actions of one don’t reflect on all.

 

[katydid23]

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/07/rachel-dolezal-new-interview-pictures-exclusive

Dolezal feels her outing was a big misunderstanding, but she appears unclear on exactly what was misunderstood. She did identify as a black woman when she was not—there’s not much to misunderstand there. For months, she showcased Albert Wilkerson Jr., a black man she met in Idaho, as her father on Facebook, a move that could only be characterized as misleading. There’s not much of a misunderstanding there, either. The problem, as Dolezal sees it, is one of timing. Had she been able to explain her complicated childhood and sincere, long-time love for black culture to everyone before the blow up, all would have been forgiven.

“Again, I wish I could have had conversations with all kinds of people,” she says. “If I would have known this was going to happen, I could have said, ‘O.K., so this is the case. This is who I am, and I’m black and this is why.’”

“I would like to write a book just so that I can send [it to] everybody there as opposed to having to continue explaining,” she says. “After that comes out, then I’ll feel a little bit more free to reveal my life in the racial social-justice movement. I’m looking for the quickest way back to that, but I don’t feel like I am probably going to be able to re-enter that work with the type of leadership required to make change if I don’t have something like a published explanation.”

And so, nearly 40 days after that local news interview, Dolezal is still unapologetically identifying as a black woman, still sure that any confusion about her singular story can be explained, still sure she’ll be back in the movement as soon as people stop misunderstanding her.

 

[meanmaryjean]

Good grief!

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

She's a special one, that she is.

 

[Donjeta]

“It’s taken my entire life to negotiate how to identify, and I’ve done a lot of research and a lot of studying,” she says. “I could have a long conversation, an academic conversation about that. I don’t know. I just feel like I didn’t mislead anybody; I didn’t deceive anybody. If people feel misled or deceived, then sorry that they feel that way, but I believe that’s more due to their definition and construct of race in their own minds than it is to my integrity or honesty, because I wouldn’t say I’m African American, but I would say I’m black, and there’s a difference in those terms.”

She clearly includes herself in the African American community here:

From the moment black women arrived on the shores of North America, our foremothers fought in strong and strategic ways to realize emancipation and equity for themselves and the African American community as a whole. From the days of black feminists like Harriet Tubman, to the civil rights and Black Power movements, to modern black feminists like bell hooks and Janet Mock — we have been reliable and valuable to the struggle for freedom and equality at every turn.

http://www.inlander.com/spokane/a-womans-worth/Content?oid=2425703

 

[kimi_SFC]

Misunderstanding my :silenced:


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[Hope4More]

Original police reports, etc. relating to RD, including one related to her trip to SF.

I'm positive you'll find docs here you haven't read before:

https://www.documentcloud.org.

(Once on site, enter search term "Rachel Dolezal". What appears on the left side of search results is kind of garbled, but it'll give you an idea of what is in each doc.

Choose what you want to read , then click on "PDF" file option on the right side of doc to pull up complete doc.

 

[Donjeta]

http://koin.com/2015/08/05/dolezal-tickets-officers-mark-black-white/

Dolezal tickets: Officers mark black, white
KOIN 6 News looked at four traffic tickets Dolezal received

Two times, officers indicated they believed she was white. Another two times, officers wrote they believed she was black. The notations are their own perceptions. Race is not indicated on Washington Driver’s Licenses.

 

[Donjeta]

Another story:
Black Lives Matter organizer and Oprah scholarship recipient who was 'revealed to be white' refuses to answer questions about his race - claiming he is the victim of a 'white supremacist conspiracy'
Shaun King, an author and writer who is one of the leading voices speaking out against police brutality on social media, has claimed he is mixed
A report now claims he is white, citing a police report that labels him as white and claiming his parents on his birth certificate are both white
King applied for and then accepted an Oprah scholarship to Morehouse College, which are only given to black men


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-hate-crime-revealed-white.html#ixzz3jHjs2zq8
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...r-activist-shaun-king-white-article-1.2330658

King has always claimed to be the son of a white woman and a black man, in various accounts online, including a philanthropic feature story published by Rebel magazine in 2012.
...The website obtained a copy of King's birth certificate, which listed his father as a Jeffery Wayne King. An arrest record, with a mug shot of a Caucasian man, who the site says is the only J Wayne King in the state, seems to link the pair.

 

[bluesneakers]

Another story:
Black Lives Matter organizer and Oprah scholarship recipient who was 'revealed to be white' refuses to answer questions about his race - claiming he is the victim of a 'white supremacist conspiracy'
Shaun King, an author and writer who is one of the leading voices speaking out against police brutality on social media, has claimed he is mixed
A report now claims he is white, citing a police report that labels him as white and claiming his parents on his birth certificate are both white
King applied for and then accepted an Oprah scholarship to Morehouse College, which are only given to black men


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-hate-crime-revealed-white.html#ixzz3jHjs2zq8
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...r-activist-shaun-king-white-article-1.2330658

King has always claimed to be the son of a white woman and a black man, in various accounts online, including a philanthropic feature story published by Rebel magazine in 2012.
...The website obtained a copy of King's birth certificate, which listed his father as a Jeffery Wayne King. An arrest record, with a mug shot of a Caucasian man, who the site says is the only J Wayne King in the state, seems to link the pair.

Is there any chance the father listed on his birth certificate is not his real father?

I would like to see a picture of him with long hair.

eta: Should have looked at the pictures first...

 

[Donjeta]

http://nypost.com/2015/09/02/rachel-dolezal-says-shes-pregnant/

Controversial former NAACP leader Rachel Dolezal says she’s pregnant.

Dolezal, 37, is in her second trimester and expects to have a boy, she told celebrity gossip site TMZ

 

[al66pine]

http://nypost.com/2015/09/02/rachel-dolezal-says-shes-pregnant/
Controversial former NAACP leader Rachel Dolezal says she’s pregnant.
Dolezal, 37, is in her second trimester and expects to have a boy, she told celebrity gossip site TMZ

Any chance she is merely identifying as pregnant?


Sorry. Snark (but not very sorry)

 

[sonjay]

Any chance she is merely identifying as pregnant?


Sorry. Snark (but not very sorry)

LOL! Thank you. I needed a good belly laugh today.

 

[gitana1]

Is there any chance the father listed on his birth certificate is not his real father?

I would like to see a picture of him with long hair.

eta: Should have looked at the pictures first...

He looks mixed to me. He looks nothing like the rest of his family. I think his mother stepped out and he doesn't want to make a big deal out of it because even though he looked mixed as a child, he doesn't want to highlight mom's affair or denounce the man who raised him?

Any chance she is merely identifying as pregnant?


Sorry. Snark (but not very sorry)

Yes. There is a huge chance she is just identifying as such and will have a Deus ex machina style "miscarriage" before she has to give birth.

This kind of person needs constant attention.

 

[jjenny]

Any chance she is merely identifying as pregnant?


Sorry. Snark (but not very sorry)

Seems like anything is possible with her. If you can be white and identify as black, why can't you be non-pregnant and identify as pregnant?
:laughing:

 

[flourish]

Okay I've decided to self identify as a spoiled house cat. I'll be sleeping in your sock drawer if you need me, although I'll likely just yawn at you. Meow out.

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[jjenny]

He looks mixed to me. He looks nothing like the rest of his family. I think his mother stepped out and he doesn't want to make a big deal out of it because even though he looked mixed as a child, he doesn't want to highlight mom's affair or denounce the man who raised him?


...

His mother raised him as a single mother. He claims he doesn't know who his actual bio father is, but that the man listed on his birth certificate isn't his bio dad.