MISTRIAL WA - Four Parkland PD officers shot to death, 29 Nov 2009 *shooter killed, Driver 3rd hung jury*

  • #741
'No amount of justice is going to be enough in this world'


TACOMA, Wash. -- The family members of the four fallen Lakewood police officers faced three men accused of helping the suspected gunman on Tuesday.

The family members watched silently, some shedding tears, as each of the three suspects accused of rendering assistance - brothers Douglas and Eddie Davis, and Rickey Hinton - faced the judge.


more here

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/78282492.html


the picture of the family tells its own story :(

I know that I thanked you for this post (and link) but I have to comment too. This is so heart-breaking. I cannot even imagine the suffering these families AND fellow officers are going through right now.

I agree, there's no amount of justice that can right, this wrong, 'in this world.'

Just heart-breaking.

:(
fran
 
  • #742
Why do his accomplices have any bail set?? Why? I predict they will be out and running ASAP. Infuriating.
 
  • #743
Police missed catching Clemmons Sunday 'by one minute'
Neighbor spotted man hours after four Lakewood officers were slain


<snip>

On Sunday, at 12:30 p.m., just four hours after police say Clemmons shot four Lakewood officers at a coffeehouse, a neighbor across the street saw him walking up the steps to the home on S. Asotin Street. Sheila Gerlach said a woman was with him who she believed was his sister. The sister lives at the house located in a close-knit Blockwatch neighborhood east of the Tacoma Mall, a part of town where there have been waves of crime.

Right when she was watching Clemmons walk up the stairs, Gerlach, a paralegal, said she heard on her television an updated description of the suspected killer, which included a gray hooded sweatshirt. It matched Clemmons, including what he was wearing at that moment.

Though she had suspicions about him, she still wasn't sure enough to call 911. She and her partner, Wolfgang Krampikowski, discussed it. He urged her to be absolutely sure before she made the call fingering her neighbor.

She grabbed her camera, thinking she might take a picture of him for the police. She grabbed her laptop and ran her neighbor's name on government Web sites, where she discovered Clemmons owned another property near where police had announced they found a suspect vehicle, a white truck matching one Gerlach had seen at the house two days earlier. She also discovered his criminal record.

.....

"I kept trying to hold her back. Don't be calling 911 now. Everybody is calling in," said Krampikowski, who felt she might be jumping to conclusions without enough evidence.

"Had he not questioned me, I probably would have called immediately. But he is, very much, a 'don't jump to conclusions' type of person,'" she said.


Troyer wishes she had called 911 immediately. He would advise others in a similar situation to do the same.


"There's no such thing as a bad tip. There are some that turn out to be bad or crazy or hoaxes. But that might be the little piece we need," he said. "If people have information, trust their gut and give us a call," Troyer said.





more here

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/412808_missed02.html
 
  • #744
I am Jesus ... and on the lam, Seattle cop killer Maurice Clemmons told NY bishop Bernard Jordan

Seattle cop killer Maurice Clemmons - shot dead Tuesday by a lone patrolman - drove to New York in June to see a Manhattan minister, declaring God told him to make the trip.

He disturbed a June 13 prayer service, trying to rush the stage and yelling, and then approached Bishop Bernard Jordan at his gala 50th birthday banquet the next day.

"He said he was Jesus. I was kind of shocked," Jordan told the Daily News.

"We said, 'If you keep talking like that, you will be locked up and put away.' I'm not a professional in mental health, but you can always tell when someone's nuts."

Clemmons, 37, told Jordan he was running from the police, who wanted him for vandalism. He said he had driven for three days to New York because "God called me."

The minister - who claims to be a prophet and runs a lucrative "cyber-ministry" on Riverside Drive - told him to go home and turn himself in. "I told him, 'I am sensing strongly that this is something you should do. You should not be on the run. You should get help,'" Jordan said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local..._killer_maurice_clemmons_told_ny_bishop_.html
 
  • #745
Bail Bonds Outfit That Sprung Maurice Clemmons Also Passing the Buck

Jail Sucks Bail Bonds is in a tight squeeze. The Chehalis-based company that agreed to spring accused cop-killer Maurice Clemmons after two other agencies declined is the last in a long line of swinging gates that ultimately led to the deaths of four Lakewood police officers.

On their web site because jailsucks.com, the bond company that probably wishes it had a more professional name and url right now says that had it "known Clemmons was capable of such a heinous crime we never would have posted this bond." Well, yeah.


http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2009/12/bail_bonds_who_sprung_maurice.php

Jail Sucks is a pretty stupid name, IMO. How long did that one take to come up with, genius? Simpletons.
 
  • #746
Zoe Ministries...you were right on Texas Mist!! I hope the police question Brother Jordan thoroughly. I'd be very curious which "products" Clemmons purchased from the Zoe Ministries.

Has anyone determined where the money was coming from for multiple homes, vehicles, guns, bail, etc. for this family? Something doesn't add up.
 
  • #747
I was suspicious of that too. But then I read an article that interviewed the person who reported the car stolen. The guy said they only used the car for short trips because it was unreliable and would stall frequently. If it stalled on Clemmons he could have gotten it restarted then decided to find another more reliable car to steal.

The car was a mere 5 blocks from where it was taken from, it was running, Clemmons was running...as long as the car is running he should have run too. If he wanted to find something more reliable, perhaps the timing would have been better if he had taken it as far away from the crime area as he could get and then look. Perhaps he shouldn't have left it sitting out with the hood up and the car running if he didn't want any attention drawn.

I'm not buying it - he was looking to kill again, he almost got his wish.


ETA - link to charging docs:


http://www.kirotv.com/download/2009/1202/21779105.pdf
 
  • #748
The car was a mere 5 blocks from where it was taken from, it was running, Clemmons was running...as long as the car is running he should have run too. If he wanted to find something more reliable, perhaps the timing would have been better if he had taken it as far away from the crime area as he could get and then look. Perhaps he shouldn't have left it sitting out with the hood up and the car running if he didn't want any attention drawn.

I'm not buying it - he was looking to kill again, he almost got his wish.


ETA - link to charging docs:


http://www.kirotv.com/download/2009/1202/21779105.pdf
Morning Charlie, I have a question which might be an unpopular one or maybe that is untimely. I know the policeman who killed this 🤬🤬🤬 is a true hero. But . . .

In the situation the LE officer found himself in, do you think he should have gotten out of his car or called for backup? Because the officer took multiple shots it says to me he didn't have a good line of sight on the guy. I don't think he put 4 bullets into the guy, one for each officer that was murdered as that would not be his job, to make a statement.

I don't know, as sitting in the car he would have been a sitting duck as bullets travel straight thru glass as well as the air! I think he is very lucky to be alive and it is probably because C was disabled and not as sharp as normal. xox
 
  • #749
Zoe Ministries...you were right on Texas Mist!! I hope the police question Brother Jordan thoroughly. I'd be very curious which "products" Clemmons purchased from the Zoe Ministries.

Has anyone determined where the money was coming from for multiple homes, vehicles, guns, bail, etc. for this family? Something doesn't add up.

I remember reading where a neighbor said he was a nice guy & that Clemmons sent 2 of his employees (or maybe "his own people"??) over to help him -- I wanna say it was to work on a pool...the neighbor didn't say what kind of business he had or who he worked for.

I'm still trying to find that article.

MC's twitter account is shut down now, but his tweets were in June...one of them said "looking for bishop jordan"

ETA: a twitter user has made a list of who MC followed so that's still available.
 
  • #750
The aunt: Nelson

http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetBooking.cfm?booking_id=2009335065

Another friend: Williams

http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetBooking.cfm?booking_id=2009335059http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetBooking.cfm?booking_id=2009335065


Scandi - I don't think calling for backup would have been the right thing given the circumstances - there would have been a confrontation with or without calling for it. Backup would not have gotten there in time IMO. As to whether the LEO had a good line on the guy, I'd say he did - he knew who he was dealing with and Clemmons ended up dropped not far from the squad car in the bushes. JMO - sitting in the car waiting for back up - sitting duck, he would have been killed, he took the offensive instead. Good for him.
 
  • #751
Three more suspected of aiding Clemmons in court today

PIERCE COUNTY, Wash.- Authorities have arrested six people believed to have helped Maurice Clemmons while he was on the run from law enforcement after reportedly murdering four Lakewood Washington Police Officers.

Three of those suspects are expected to make their first court appearances Wednesday morning.

Darcus Allen, Letricia Nelson and Quiana Wiliams are facing charges of rendering criminal assistance. Police say nelson is Clemmons' aunt.

Officers say Darcus Allen was a former prison mate of Maurice Clemmon's when he was incarcerated in Arkansas. Allen is accused of driving the getaway car that Clemmons used after killing the four Lakewood officers. Police believe he knowingly drove Clemmons to the coffee shop to find the officers, then drove him away knowing what Clemmons did.


http://www.khq.com/Global/story.asp?S=11605669
 
  • #752
I remember reading where a neighbor said he was a nice guy & that Clemmons sent 2 of his employees (or maybe "his own people"??) over to help him -- I wanna say it was to work on a pool...the neighbor didn't say what kind of business he had or who he worked for.

I'm still trying to find that article.

MC's twitter account is shut down now, but his tweets were in June...one of them said "looking for bishop jordan"

ETA: a twitter user has made a list of who MC followed so that's still available.

IIRC, he owned a landscape and power-washing business. The business license was in his wife, NS', name until the license expired in October. I get the distinct feeling he was a so-called "baller", as well.

ETA: Tx Mist, I want to say thank you to you and everyone for the tweet and scanner updates. Because of the tweets you posted, I've decided to join Twitter. The article you linked regarding the lack of national media coverage and Twitter's ability to pick up the slack really changed my opinion. IMO, the most accurate info during the manhunt came from your Tweets. Thank you, again, TM, for always posting useful information for the rest of us.
 
  • #753
  • #754
'All I do is feel sad for it,' Clemmons' grandmother says

It was 5 a.m. in Marianna, Ark., when the call came for Lela and Mamie Clemmons.

Relatives in Seattle told them that Maurice Clemmons, Lela's grandson and Mamie's nephew, was dead, killed by a patrolman. He had been a hunted man, wanted for gunning down four Lakewood police officers on Sunday.

"All I do is feel sorry for it. And sad," Lela Clemmons, 82, said.

"We apologize for the fallen officers," added Mamie Clemmons.

Still their sorrow was mixed with anger as police continue to round up other relatives in Seattle who may have helped a wounded Maurice Clemmons stay on the run for nearly two days.

"They are just messing with us. They are messing with the family. They done killed Maurice, and it's over," Mamie Clemmons said.


http://www.seattlepi.com/local/412773_family01.html?source=mypi

I heard a clip of the Aunt from this phone conversation during a KIRO live feed. She didn't sound sincere or pleasant, at all.
ETA: I guess they have the right to grieve the loss of a loved one in peace, too. I would probably be heated, too, if my elderly mother, who had just lost her grandson, the son of her deceased child, was being harrassed by the media. Just because we don't love him, doesn't mean they don't have the right to.

BUT...
The aunt said that Clemmons' brother in the Seattle area had asked authorities before the Sunday shootings to get his brother some help. She said she didn't recall when that happened.

Clemmons had been in custody before the shootings, but was released on bail.

"We all lost something that was very dear to us," said Mamie Clemmons. "But we don't know what caused him to really do what they did. Well, we do know.

"For one thing, it was mental aggravations from different law enforcement agencies. He's been locked up all his life," she said. "When they started to ask him questions, and stuff, he just broke. They had him in jail before they let him out. They put so much pressure on him."

OH! Poor Mo! Puh-leeze! :rolleyes:
My guess is his narcissistic personality has more to do with his family's coddling of him and failure to instill in him the "You do the crime, you do the time" mentality/morality and less to do with the "pressure" LE was putting on him as a result of crimes HE committed. I have to wonder how diligent his family was in seeking mental treatment for him when he was growing up and forming these behaviors? They want to lay blame with authorities for not getting him the "help" he needed, well what the hell did they do to get him the help?!?!? And by help, I don't mean assisting a cop killer in leading and endangering LE on a huge manhunt for 2 days.
 
  • #755
Any reason why Allen, the getaway driver, is not being charged with murder?

He drove Clemmons there knowing he was going to shoot police officers, and then drove him away to safety, and he's only facing criminal assistance charges, a relatively minor offense.

That doesn't make any sense. Why aren't the others facing accessory to murder charges?? "Criminal assistance" will probably get them a slap on the wrist and light probation. What's the matter up there in Washington??
 
  • #756
Joe, I'm pretty sure he will be, as long as they have the evidence. Rest assured, he won't receive just a slap on the wrist. Give it time. Let Pierce Co. regain their composure and get their ducks in a row.
 
  • #757
Governor says no more Arkansas prisoners

by KING 5 News
Posted on December 2, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Updated today at 12:25 PM

SEATTLE - A major announcement comes from Washington Gov. Christine Gregoire in the bitter clash between Arkansas and the state of Washington over the handling of the Maurice Clemmons case.

Gregoire anounced beginning today, Washington state will no longer accept convicted criminals on parole from the state of Arkansas.

More at link...

http://www.king5.com/news/Governor-says-no-more-Arkansas-prisoners-78341957.html
 
  • #758
Alleged getaway driver in officers' slaying could face murder charges

A 38-year-old man convicted of a double-murder at a liquor store in Arkansas in 1990 is being investigated as the getaway driver in Sunday's slaying of four Lakewood police officers, according to Pierce County authorities.

Darcus D. Allen is being held in Pierce County on suspicion of rendering criminal assistance to Maurice Clemmons, 37, the suspected killer of the officers. Clemmons was shot and killed by a Seattle police officer early Tuesday morning.

More at link...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010405277_webdarcus02m.html
 
  • #759
Arraignment schuedule for this afternoon...

PIERCE COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT Judge THOMAS P. LARKIN
COURT CALENDAR Dec 2 2009 PM Dept 03 Room 2-D

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ALLEN, DARCUS DEWAYNE
Pros:
Book:REND CRIM ASST 1 (4)
01:30 PM ARRAIGNMENT
Def:
09-1-05395-4 Pros:
For charge information, contact the Clerk. 01:30 PM ARRAIGNMENT
Def:

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NELSON, LETRECIA
Pros:
Book:REND CRIM ASST 1 (4)
01:30 PM ARRAIGNMENT
Def:

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WILLIAMS, QUIANA MAYLEA
Pros:
Book:REND CRIM ASST 1 (4)
01:30 PM ARRAIGNMENT
Def:
Calendar created: Wednesday December 2, 2009 11:32AM
Information that has changed since this time will not be reflected on this calendar.

http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/l...endar_file=PublicCourtCalendar/20091202PM.htm
 
  • #760
*** CLEMMONS CASE ACCESS ***

Due to heavy interest, we are providing free access to the three Pierce County cases that were filed earlier this year against Maurice Clemmons as well as the newly charged co-conspirator cases. To access the cases, click on a link listed below.

Maurice Clemmons Case 09-1-03166-7 Case 09-1-03159-4
Case 09-1-02365-6

Eddie Lee Davis Case 09-1-05374-1

Douglas Edward Davis Case 09-1-05375-0

Rickey Hinton TO BE ARRAIGNED 12/3/2009 1:30 PM --- BAIL 2 MILLION DOLLARS

This case information at link...

http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/Main.cfm
 

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