WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #6

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  • #81
I would honestly love to see how many times the SO on the other side of the freeway goes to that store. The guy is young, so he wouldn't cause trouble to Lindsey, he is fully along the route, but he is a less that advanced sexual crime, maybe he saw Lindsey and thought it was time to really dig into it. His location is slightly out of town, with a whole lot of trees and seclusion too. I'm sure he was investigated, at least I hope he was. He looks like he's 15, something that might appeal to Lindsey,
 
  • #82
This vampire stuff is interesting for sure, since the Fork is so close
 
  • #83
Has anyone found any more information on "Derek"...the SO who was arrested around the first?? Just wondering cause I'm not so great when it comes to finding new info....still feeling like a newbie.

Relax, We all started as Newbies. Ya Ya

Do we know how strict the mother was about the curfew business? Was it normal for LB to be a little late or was she always home by curfew??

I have read that there was no real curfew adhered to, as the kids were out at all hours, around and about. If there was a curfew it was not enforced. That info is from a friend who lives close and knows someone in McCleary! Not a link l}

What was it that KK had planned for her family on the next day? Why wasn't her daughter aware of the plans already (before she started making plans for a sleepover with LB)?

Maybe it was spur of the moment. Up in the air as we don't even know which house the girls really wanted to stay at. Their plans were changed 'en route' supposedly and no link, for what it's worth.

This is probably just some weirdo Southern thing, but my Daddy would have been PISSED at me if I asked for a friend to spend the night (or to stay over at their house) while my friend was standing there listening. I wasn't even supposed to suggest that a sleepover was a possibility in front of my friends until I had spoken with my Dad about it first. I didn't understand that when I was ten, but I knew better than to act that way...it's bad manners and was against his rules. On the other hand, he would have been MORTIFIED if I were to walk over to a friend's house and ask to stay over. No matter how I look at the situation (since the two stories we've heard are TOTALLY different) I can't make the situation "right" in my mind.

ITA When I was growing up, a sleepover would have been pre-arranged by the parents. We would never have even dared to suggest a different arrangement on the spur of the moment, but our mothers were very much 'on it'.

ETA: Just asked JT (live-in-boyfriend....my how things change over the years, lol) what the "asking to stay the night" rule was in his house.....and it was the same for him. His Mama would have lost her mind if he'd had the nerve to ask in front of a friend....maybe it's an Arkansas thing, lol. We are a bit backward down here....and no, he's not my cousin....at least not that I'm aware of.... :)

I do believe mainstay America is still the same, down deep. Yes, times have changed, but common sense is still alive and well. Parents who really care about their kids take the time to plan and direct their children. It's a big wide world, and children are not equipped to always make the right decisions in life. Guidance is what they need, from their parents. All IMO

WHOOPS, Need to extend my message to post! My Royal Blue ;}
 
  • #84
If Lindsey is just running away to her Twilight force, that would be so cool, but I doubt that
She was just going home that night
 
  • #85
I just posted the most direct route. More than likely she (like every kid in the world would do) used a short cut route when walking through town.

Heck I remember when I was a kid we had certain yards we knew we could cut through to get somewhere faster. Who knows.. maybe she did that too. Maybe she didn't stick to the main roads at all.
 
  • #86
do we know for sure if it was a pool...they were swimming in?
 
  • #87
Wonder who else was in that video store that evening? I wonder if LE has questioned all of them? Does the video store owner have a spouse, or grown child?

Looking at that map the video store does not look like it is 1/2 block from her house even taking a short cut.
I wish we had more info on the friend with a pool, and the video store. Also it's possible these girls were walking around town in just bathing suits. I see it all the time in the local stores.
 
  • #88
DogMom, I'd love to know where that swimming pool was, thanks for your question
 
  • #89
i was thinking they could have been swimming in the creek??
 
  • #90
Did anyone noitce that on Lindsey's myspace it said this:

Here for: Dating, Serious Relationships, Friends

that is alarming to me. It's very possible that if whoever took her was on Myspace and saw that could have convinced her that they were like Edward Cullen. It appears that she was really into the Twilight Saga. A lot of young girls fall inlove with the Edward character.

Is he the vampire, all handsome and all? What is the show with Buffy? Is that similar to this Twilight? I am lost here Willen. ;}
 
  • #91
we knew we could cut through to get somewhere faster I agree with that, did the same, and one of the reasons I think about the possibility of SS's concept on the park, which is right next to her home, and behind the Shell station.

My major problem with this is that LB seems to completely disappear between 4th and 5th on Maple, maybe she veered off up 4th to get something from that area, and then went down Simpson to the park, a clear and distinct possibility
 
  • #92
Wonder who else was in that video store that evening? I wonder if LE has questioned all of them? Does the video store owner have a spouse, or grown child?

Looking at that map the video store does not look like it is 1/2 block from her house even taking a short cut.
I wish we had more info on the friend with a pool, and the video store. Also it's possible these girls were walking around town in just bathing suits. I see it all the time in the local stores.

Maybe I can help...I made the time-line but there is a more recent one that was deleted or maybe this one was changed. The video store being 1/2 block from her home came from a quote mom K and mom Baum said. Everything in the time-line came from quotes except when I say 'not verified by police'. It's been changed and I'm upset about it cause I don't know who changed it and why? I have another more updated one that I would be happy to put up but if it's going to be deleted or changed, I just can't.

There was NO info about where the girls swam...I'm sure they don't want to put another minor's name in the pic. I don't blame them. The girls swam and walked to the video store. Lindsey and her friend split and went their own way. They did not rent videos.
 
  • #93
It is extremely strange that that one top shell camera saw nothing
It seemed to be pointed directly at Maple
 
  • #94
Yes, they did rent videos, according to a number of expressions
 
  • #95
Wonder who else was in that video store that evening? I wonder if LE has questioned all of them? Does the video store owner have a spouse, or grown child?

Looking at that map the video store does not look like it is 1/2 block from her house even taking a short cut.
I wish we had more info on the friend with a pool, and the video store. Also it's possible these girls were walking around town in just bathing suits. I see it all the time in the local stores.
Wasn't it mentioned in one article there was a surveillance video at the video store that LE was checking out?
 
  • #96
It is extremely strange that that one top shell camera saw nothing
It seemed to be pointed directly at Maple

No, it looks like it's pointed towards the corner of 3rd and Simpson not Maple.
 
  • #97
I have no doubt that the video store has evidence of the rentals, and it just works with their little teen night
 
  • #98
Maybe I can help...I made the time-line but there is a more recent one that was deleted or maybe this one was changed. The video store being 1/2 block from her home came from a quote mom K and mom Baum said. Everything in the time-line came from quotes except when I say 'not verified by police'. It's been changed and I'm upset about it cause I don't know who changed it and why? I have another more updated one that I would be happy to put up but if it's going to be deleted or changed, I just can't.

There was NO info about where the girls swam...I'm sure they don't want to put another minor's name in the pic. I don't blame them. The girls swam and walked to the video store. Lindsey and her friend split and went their own way. They did not rent videos.

If it was deleted or changed.. that had to be done by a mod, I wouldn't repost it because obviously they had a reason to remove/edit it.
 
  • #99
Jennifer, the group thing is between Simpson and 4th
The "single" thing, with Lindsey is between 4th and 5th, on Maple. I now know each person who lives on that block, but won't post it because everyone seems to be cool
 
  • #100
do we know for sure if it was a pool...they were swimming in?
I will go back to check, but I think it was stated in various articles it was a pool in someone's backyard and not the creek.
 
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