WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #6

[DogMom2JoeAndWillie]

SO....not to be the big dummy to point out the obvious.....but anyone else TOTALLY feeling creepy about all the "discovery" and "she's alive" talk we were hearing earlier....followed up by this whole unusual helicopter search stuff......or is this just coincidence??


ETA: Loooong awkward silence.....patiently waiting for some more news.....bout to have an adult beverage of the B.Light variety cause WTF...."it's five o'clock somewhere"....in fact, it's five o'clock here (just happens to be AM and not PM).....

 

[DotsEyes]

DogMom - not me.

No one would be sad to find out that Lindsey is alive. I think we have a sleepy poster who just went to bed.

If the helicopters are following roads, they may be looking for a robber or a speeder.

Or this could be helicopter training night.

 

[not_my_kids]

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/49428097.html

It's a national guard chopper, I think.

ETA: I know it's an old article, but if they had the Guard out once before, it wouldn't surprise me if they had them out again.

Also, given how long it's been, there would be changes in any vegetation that was located atop a corpse, visible from the air. I won't go into these changes unless asked.

 

[TakeNote]

not sure.....but its made an interesting night.....

this forum has wonderful mods....things will be taken care of....if need taken care of....could just be one of those wild and crazy nights....and you happen to be here for the ride....there have been plenty of nights that ive missed out on the ride...later today...there maybe post that go *poof* and we may wake up from a nap and think it was all a dream......

 

[scandi]

Just call 'em anyway and tell them to find out wtheck that helicopter is doing.

I'm about ready to Poco. There are trees that line the edges of that Hwy I believe, but then it breaks out into more bare land where Sand Creek Pond {lake} is. We do know there is a RSO who lives down there on the south side of the Hwy. We learned about him almost right away.

 

[poco]

Do you think a national guard chopper will be looking in the middle of the night?

 

[not_my_kids]

Do you think a national guard chopper will be looking in the middle of the night?

If they are looking for a body that may be buried, one of the best times to do it is after dark. Bodies themselves give off heat, easier to detect at night, especially while they are decomposing and vegetation growing above a buried body gives off more heat than the vegetation around it. So that could be what they are looking for, although I hope not.

 

[DogMom2JoeAndWillie]

NMK: Didn't mean AT ALL that I didn't want her found alive....thats what we all want! I hope my post didn't sound that way at all. If it did, I'm so sorry to everyone.

 

[not_my_kids]

Don't worry DogMom, I didn't take it that way.

No one would come here if we didn't want her to come home alive.

I just always try to soften the blow when I have to say realistic, yet hurtful, things. I come off as cold sometimes, so I have my little disclaimers that I add.

 

[DogMom2JoeAndWillie]

If they are looking for a body that may be buried, one of the best times to do it is after dark. Bodies themselves give off heat, easier to detect at night, especially while they are decomposing and vegetation growing above a buried body gives off more heat than the vegeltation around it. So that could be what they are looking for, although I hope not.

That is very intersting info. I need to do some reading up on my biology...especially when it comes to plants. You're making total sense, but my mind is a little slow right now and I was hoping you could give me a quick refresher on the whole heat releasing thing. Is it safe to assume that plants with a higher rate of photosynthesis rate (based on higher nitrogen fixation???) give off more heat and thats the reason why this detection is possible? Sorry, I know I sound like a dummy but it's been a while since I've studied up....

 

[scandi]

If they are looking for a body that may be buried, one of the best times to do it is after dark. Bodies themselves give off heat, easier to detect at night, especially while they are decomposing and vegetation growing above a buried body gives off more heat than the vegetation around it. So that could be what they are looking for, although I hope not.

A BIT GRUESOME TO READ: WARNING

Yes you are right Not my kids, 4 - 10 days after death is when the body bloats up and fills with gasses. Then the next stage is when the body starts to dry out and the gasses and fluids are released, or SS to that. That means it would probably be visable with infared. They must have had a tip, right? A reason to look there along the Hwy? xox

 

[cyberswept]

Ok, went outside to see if I could hear, see or smell anything. It's a clear night, the moon is out and the stars are shining. No sirens, no more helicopter and I can't smell any smoke. Can't say if it was a NG heli or not, couldn't see it well enough. Gonna hit the hay, wish I had more to report, but that's it.

 

[poco]

Keep checking back - about time for an update from Cyber --- hey Cyber, you still hear the helicopter? (ETA: looks like we posted about the same time, lol). You can't go to bed now. Who is going to keep us informed?

 

[not_my_kids]

From my very worn copy of Forensics for Dummies:

"Turning the soil during the digging process changes the soil conditions...as does the presence of a body. These (changes) attract plant species that differ from those around the gravesite. Similarly, plants that are typical for a given area may be more abundant or grow thicker (which produces more heat) and richer because of changes in the soil condition. This kind of change may be visible, particularly from the air."

Page 47 for those of you with the same book.

I had to look it up, sorry.

 

[DogMom2JoeAndWillie]

G'night or G'morning (whichever applies to you all) cause I've gotta get at least an hour or so of beauty rest before gettin' started tomorrow (or today, whatever).....hope we have some good news when I check back!!

 

[coastal]

I'd advise staying inside - locked inside - when there are helicopters flying that close and low, especially in the middle of the night. It happens around here quite often, and it's usually LE looking for somebody. Somebody criminal. A friend of mine actually had some guy try her front door, yelling "Let me in! Let me in!" Scared her to death. They caught him a few blocks away.

Err on the side of caution. We can wait.

 

[not_my_kids]

I'd advise staying inside - locked inside - when there are helicopters flying that close and low, especially in the middle of the night. It happens around here quite often, and it's usually LE looking for somebody. Somebody criminal. A friend of mine actually had some guy try her front door, yelling "Let me in! Let me in!" Scared her to death. They caught him a few blocks away.

Err on the side of caution. We can wait.

Alive and curious is always better than dead and in the know.

Probably wouldn't be able to find anything out unless you were right under them anyway, and even I think, that might be a bit suspicious.

 

[cyberswept]

Alive and curious is always better than dead and in the know.

Probably wouldn't be able to find anything out unless you were right under them anyway, and even I think, that might be a bit suspicious.

Thanks for your concern.

 

[impatientredhead]

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[A_Closer_Look]

i wish i knew how to multiple post like that!

I never knew how either, until you asked! lol
I had done that whole thread by hand, cut and pasting and adding the quote tags with the appropriate thread numbers, etc... took me like 25 minutes!
I could have just multi-quoted it :doh: