Found Deceased WA - Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, found dead, manhunt on for father, Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025 #2

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  • #461
The main reason I think he didn't fake his own death and plan a grand escape is he could have done this without the murders.

If he was stressed about the car insurance, bills piling up, child support and everything came to a head, he could have disappeared and got a new identity/life and/or attempt to sneak into Canada without the heinous act.

It's too bad he didn't do all that instead of feeling murder had to be part of the equation. MOO JMO
Yes he could have done that without killing his daughters, but my belief is that he wanted to punish WD most of all. :(

JMO
 
  • #462
some of this is really useful, but there are some facts that John has got incorrect. This really annoys me, if he is providing an opinion, the least he could do is get the facts correct!
 
  • #463
some of this is really useful, but there are some facts that John has got incorrect. This really annoys me, if he is providing an opinion, the least he could do is get the facts correct!
What is incorrect IYDMMA?
 
  • #464
What is incorrect IYDMMA?
I always get the feeling that John doesnt put the full work into a case before giving an opinion, there were several facts that were wrong, but the one that stands out the most was that WD filed for divorce, this is incorrect, as it was reported that TD filed for divorce. I must say though, they had access to more court documents than has publicly been reported. I do agree though with what John says about BPD and the fear of abandonment being a trigger. I would recommend watching this video.
  • TD had lost his job - not sure what they mean by this as TD was working;
  • WD filed for divorce - it has been repoerted that TD filed for the divorce;
 
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  • #465
I always get the feeling that John doesnt put the full work into a case before giving an opinion, there were several facts that were wrong, but the one that stands out the most was that WD filed for divorce, this is incorrect, as it was reported that TD filed for divorce. I must say though, they had access to more court documents than has publicly been reported. I do agree though with what John says about BPD and the fear of abandonment being a trigger. I would recommend watching this video.
  • TD had lost his job - not sure what they mean by this as TD was working;
  • WD filed for divorce - it has been repoerted that TD filed for the divorce;
I have seen it in MSM that WD filed. The article linked had some other pertinent information on what had been going on with TD, WD and the girls. They had become afraid of his actions.

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W first filed a petition of divorce on November 14, 2022, in Chelan County Court.

Dad of 3 Travis Decker’s ‘unstable’ behavior in months before allegedly murdering his daughters
 
  • #466
I always get the feeling that John doesnt put the full work into a case before giving an opinion, there were several facts that were wrong, but the one that stands out the most was that WD filed for divorce, this is incorrect, as it was reported that TD filed for divorce. I must say though, they had access to more court documents than has publicly been reported. I do agree though with what John says about BPD and the fear of abandonment being a trigger. I would recommend watching this video.
  • TD had lost his job - not sure what they mean by this as TD was working;
  • WD filed for divorce - it has been repoerted that TD filed for the divorce;
i definitely agree the facts of the case could be better communicated, but i don’t think these are egregious as maybe you might. i could be totally off base here, but as far as the psychoanalysis goes, WD did say TD’s mental health deterioration was in part due by “garnished wages” so maybe he was doing odd jobs / government assistance?

as for the divorce, i don’t know if i’ve seen it anywhere TD filed — only WD.

happy to be corrected on any of these though!
 
  • #467
I have seen it in MSM that WD filed. The article linked had some other pertinent information on what had been going on with TD, WD and the girls. They had become afraid of his actions.

<snipped>

W first filed a petition of divorce on November 14, 2022, in Chelan County Court.

Dad of 3 Travis Decker’s ‘unstable’ behavior in months before allegedly murdering his daughters
Yeah, odd, I am sure I saw that TD filed because I was so surprised. I am trying to remember where I found that info - was it WDs lawyer or the Protection Order? Will keep looking :)
 
  • #468
i definitely agree the facts of the case could be better communicated, but i don’t think these are egregious as maybe you might. i could be totally off base here, but as far as the psychoanalysis goes, WD did say TD’s mental health deterioration was in part due by “garnished wages” so maybe he was doing odd jobs / government assistance?

as for the divorce, i don’t know if i’ve seen it anywhere TD filed — only WD.

happy to be corrected on any of these though!
TD was working construction jobs towards the end IIRC. He had stopped showing up to the NGR drills so they were going to disciplinary discharge him, no pay from there anymore.

MOO
 
  • #469
Yeah, odd, I am sure I saw that TD filed because I was so surprised. I am trying to remember where I found that info - was it WDs lawyer or the Protection Order? Will keep looking :)
No worries, it's probably been reported both ways honestly.
 
  • #470
i definitely agree the facts of the case could be better communicated, but i don’t think these are egregious as maybe you might. i could be totally off base here, but as far as the psychoanalysis goes, WD did say TD’s mental health deterioration was in part due by “garnished wages” so maybe he was doing odd jobs / government assistance?

as for the divorce, i don’t know if i’ve seen it anywhere TD filed — only WD.

happy to be corrected on any of these though!
According to the charge documents, it would appear that TD had regular employment (his boss noted that he did not arrive for work on the monday, he had been bullied by colleagues and appeared to be have mental health issues. I think with John, my issue is that he seems to pick up some stuff and not the other. He made a big deal of the BPD (and I found this really useful as I have a family memeber diagnosed with BPD), but said there was no confirmation of the PTSD, despite it being in the same document as the BPD. Perhaps its just me being over critical.
 
  • #471
TD is likely using basic counter-tracking techniques by minimizing his footprint and using rocky or wet terrain to break sign. The dense terrain works in his favor - giving him natural concealment. Quick tarp setups provide temporary cover. He's probably operating on a short-burst evasion cycle, moving carefully, laying low, rationing supplies, avoiding any electronic signature, and using basic survival knowledge to stay ahead. Psychologically, his desperation and hyper-focus on evasion may be sustaining him in the short term. Like all long evasion attempts, the breaking point always comes. As supplies dwindle, fatigue sets in, and the terrain itself turns against him. Even a minor misstep will break the concealment. Some people will say the system failed him, even those who love him because the reality is too much to bear. But many, his former peers especially, those with true rocks in their stomachs, will know this man gave himself a hall pass on accountability, and what he did to those little girls is his to own. He knows he will be captured and it will be aired all over of him being handcuffed so we can all get a look at the father that murdered his very own daughters one by one. IMO
 
  • #472
had to go digging for this info in the first thread. WD's attorney states TD initiated the divorce

It was Travis Decker who initiated ending his marriage with Whitney Decker in 2023, because he "felt like he wasn't worth it," Cozart said.
Father who killed 3 daughters was 'active dad' but the 'system failed' him, ex-wife's attorney says

But other articles report that per the court records WD is the one who filed the petition for divorce.

I suspect TD left her and the kids to "go figure himself out" and eventually WD filed papers because she needed some sort of child support order and structured visitation schedule in place.
 
  • #473
What makes LE assume that he is in the area? What do they think holds him there?
 
  • #474
What makes LE assume that he is in the area? What do they think holds him there?
I am not sure, and there seems to be no explanation by LE. But, I have noticed on the tracker that since last Friday, the search activity had moved south west of Wenatchee. There was lots of activity SW especially on Friday.

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Found Deceased - Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, found dead, manhunt on for father, Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025 #2
 
  • #475
What makes LE assume that he is in the area? What do they think holds him there?
I am not LE and I don't know the answer, but I do remember reading that TD worked for at least some time fighting wildfires (out of Wenatchee?) and wonder if he might have become familiar with some of this terrain then. It would be nice to have some answers, but even better to have him captured without anyone more suffering harm.

I was watching a flight tracker last evening and there was a helicopter flying repetitive long ellipticals (N to S, gradually going west) around Liberty then. Liberty is slightly N of the junction of highways SR970 and US97.
 
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  • #476
Yeah, odd, I am sure I saw that TD filed because I was so surprised. I am trying to remember where I found that info - was it WDs lawyer or the Protection Order? Will keep looking :)
I’ve seen on posts that TD told WD that he wasn’t good for the family, etc. (paraphrasing). Maybe why it looks like he’s the one that filed, but I think it was WD.
 
  • #477
I can't get over how physically different he appears in photos and vids. Those tats are a dead give away though.

JMO
I agree, he looks so different to me in every photo and vid, it's like he's a chameleon... or even a shapeshifter...

IMO, it wouldn't take much effort for him to change his appearance again, and he might have learned how to do it to remain undetected professionally in the military, and do it in spades...

IF he is spotted by someone out there in the wilderness, he could have planned for it with a different:

build (thinner & less buffed from eating just to survive & hiding all day in a cave & only moving at night in a planned route)

hair color, haircut & facial hair (shaved and/or bleached blonde head & longer grown out beard or face paint)

gate/way of moving (stooped & slow to look decrepit & less fit)

clothing/coverup (long sleeves & pants, camo rain poncho to hide his physique, tats)

head gear (wraparound sunglasses, wide brimmed camo hat with flaps)...

IF he's using these kinds of disguises, I think he could fairly easily appear to be someone else and not obviously the man seen in public before... from afar, anyway.

IF he's in full survival mode, which he probably is & should be when there's a full LE at all levels resources manhunt underway for this depraved child murderer, and he had planned this for awhile, and there are thousands of places to hide in rough terrain he's probably familiar with if not outright practiced at moving through, and he's got nothing else to apply himself to other than hiding out here & there, eating off the land & moving around under cover only at night (& wearing infrared blocking gear)... and the Canada searches on his device were just a ruse to try & lead LE thataway while he went the otherway...

And IF all that & he could have planned to never "come back to civilization"....ever.... IMO, he may never be found.

And if he is, he will take his own life then & there, and has a plan for that as well.

It's not that personally he gets any credit for being able to pull something like this off, and professionally LE has the best of the best resources & hardfast determination to capture him & will never give up.

It's just that he's trained in survival tactics & living off grid & knows the terrain & IMO planned ahead to disappear permanently after annihilating his family, and be a deep woods survivalist hermit & social outcast murderer on the run for all his remaining days...which hopefully will not be much longer now.

All that said on what I think he could be about, LE is closing in on him, he's waaay underestimated them & overestimated his skills living in evasion/survivalist mode in the US of A in 2025, and that's his Achilles' heel, IMO.

There will be justice for Whitney's family, and it's coming soon, I sincerely hope & pray!!

IF right now he's starving & can't sleep a wink & is eaten up by bugs & stress & can't go on much longer, and his demented little world is about to crack wide open when he wakes up one morning in his hidey hole to see a SWAT team in full regalia with guns loaded & aimed at him... well, he's getting what he deserves & it's only going to get worse & worse for him from hereon out.

MOO

#justiceforOlivia Evelyn & Paitlyn <3
 
  • #478
I’ve seen on posts that TD told WD that he wasn’t good for the family, etc. (paraphrasing). Maybe why it looks like he’s the one that filed, but I think it was WD.

This was my interpretation of it too. TD asked for it, but in the end it was WD who actually filed the paperwork.

Looking at the divorce filing on the Washington Courts Online Case Search website, WD is indeed the one who filed. Odyssey Portal - Washington Courts Online Case Search
 
  • #479
had to go digging for this info in the first thread. WD's attorney states TD initiated the divorce

It was Travis Decker who initiated ending his marriage with Whitney Decker in 2023, because he "felt like he wasn't worth it," Cozart said.
Father who killed 3 daughters was 'active dad' but the 'system failed' him, ex-wife's attorney says

But other articles report that per the court records WD is the one who filed the petition for divorce.

I suspect TD left her and the kids to "go figure himself out" and eventually WD filed papers because she needed some sort of child support order and structured visitation schedule in place.
Thanks for this, I thought I was going mad!
 
  • #480
I'm very surprised he hasn't been caught yet, D or A

Could he have a cabin or built a structure or something within the woods?
 
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