WA - One killed, 2 injured in shooting at Seattle Pacific University, 5 June 2014

[Charlie09]

From a non-American, that "way too common" thought went through my head about 10 years ago. Then Sandy Hook happened and nothing changed. I reserve my feelings for the victims and their families who had no choice in being shot at, but I'm losing my empathy with the people of America over this issue. How many times does this need to happen before people are moved to do something?

what exactly would you like Americans to do?
Specific and exact what would you like us to do?

 

[Nymeria]

This has put higher education in full on response mode all over Seattle and WA. I must say I am honored to serve in this 'industry'---- all 4 years have volunteered to fly in grief counselors if needed (remember SPU is a really small college), and universities PD's (some of which are accredited as 'real' police forces) are on high visibility status. Y'all have to remember that our Commencement/Graduation shindigs are this weekend. Talk about crazy times.

I was thinking about you Seattle.
I thought I remembered you worked at a college (or something along those lines, sorry I do not recall exactly).
I hope despite this happening your ceremonies go well and your weekend is good.

 

[Brightbird]

what exactly would you like Americans to do?
Specific and exact what would you like us to do?

I'd like to see Americans have a dialogue between both sides of the gun control debate. Instead of antagonising each other. Let's keep this conversation on the gun control thread shall we?

 

[CARIIS]

"When something like this occurs in our midst, it reminds us that we live in a world that is broken, and there are not easy answers.................


Accused Seattle gunman suffers severe mental illness, his lawyer says

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/07/us-usa-shooting-seattle-idUSKBN0EH11D20140607

involuntary commitment.

had visited the Columbine high school in Colorado where two students killed a teacher and 12 classmates before taking their own lives in 1999.

20-year-old woman remained hospitalized on Friday in serious condition in the intensive care unit, although she was conscious and breathing on her own.

A 24-year-old man was in satisfactory condition with pellet wounds. A 22-year-old man was treated for minor injuries suffered in the scuffle with the suspect,

 

[Gardenlady]

From a non-American, that "way too common" thought went through my head about 10 years ago. Then Sandy Hook happened and nothing changed. I reserve my feelings for the victims and their families who had no choice in being shot at, but I'm losing my empathy with the people of America over this issue. How many times does this need to happen before people are moved to do something?

As an American, I completely agree. some of us do what we can but...


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[Charlie09]

I'd like to see Americans have a dialogue between both sides of the gun control debate. Instead of antagonising each other. Let's keep this conversation on the gun control thread shall we?

I'm responding to a post here....

 

[CARIIS]

I can't bring myself to get too in depth on this. I imagine others must feel the same. It's too soon after the last incidents, it's sickening and horrifying. Enough is enough is enough.


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Yep. An hour of errands come back to get the nuance on Canada, (which prevented Seattle yesterday). See the courthouse. Felt just weary, it was like a Chinese menu, should we find out about Ga, should we see if the Canada suspect has said anything, what happened in Seattle .


My next thought was sneakers. Sneakers are going to become the only shoe wear in America that seems to be mandatory. And I am confident we all are “fatigued”! While bouncing around to get “caught up” how sad is that –I had to like pause like is this link Seattle or GA, Canada I did not get lost for some reason. Then I thought , god the victims of all of them, lying in hospital seeing the others must be intense.


I then shut down for several hours. But, I think the ER mess has triggered something in folks that have been simmering. The pace is outta control.



I am still trying to locate (but then I came here, and as happens often!) I need to get caught up with this one) but want to know was GA house rigged with explosives,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[CARIIS]

what exactly would you like Americans to do?
Specific and exact what would you like us to do?

IMO,the only real step, it seems, in, addressing our countries many problems is term limits for congress, Period. These days they seem to spend their workdays either campaigning, or on investigative committees on colleagues in the other party.


They then, years later, release a a1200 page report that no one reads, that is filled with fiscally meaningless suggestions. The got printing office prints xx amount of copies. They are then placed in the got printing office , gathering moth balls . They only seem to dine vacation and fight with the other party – that’s it.



In private sector if you don’t do your job your leave. That simple.
[FONT=&quot]This Congress going down as least productive ( and this was a year ago!)[/FONT]
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http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...-productive/kGAVEBskUeqCB0htOUG9GI/story.html


We spend a billion dollars a year on this madness! Term limits, that seems to be the only beginning.

the infamous “Do Nothing Congress” of 1948 did more.

this year have approved just 55 laws and,

Bridges have been named, veterans affairs hospitals dedicated, and old laws have been renewed. But little more.

he Violence Against Women Act was renewed; legislation was passed to keep the government’s helium gas reserves open; and Congress came to an agreement to fund the government — more than two weeks after the October shutdown.

 

[LadyL]

God that article - can his friend PLEASE stop calling this 26 year old a "KID"!!

Ten is a kid. 15 is a kid. Stretching it, you could probably refer to college age folks up to about age 21/22 as kids. But 26? Uh-uh. That's an adult, a man.

Sorry, pet peeve of mine.


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it's a common nickname of sorts in some generations, mine included - it's not always used as a word reflective of age, depending I suppose on the age or occupation of the speaker

 

[Sunshine95]

IMO,the only real step, it seems, in, addressing our countries many problems is term limits for congress, Period. These days they seem to spend their workdays either campaigning, or on investigative committees on colleagues in the other party.


They then, years later, release a a1200 page report that no one reads, that is filled with fiscally meaningless suggestions. The got printing office prints xx amount of copies. They are then placed in the got printing office , gathering moth balls . They only seem to dine vacation and fight with the other party – that’s it.



In private sector if you don’t do your job your leave. That simple.
[FONT=&quot]This Congress going down as least productive ( and this was a year ago!)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]
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http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...-productive/kGAVEBskUeqCB0htOUG9GI/story.html


We spend a billion dollars a year on this madness! Term limits, that seems to be the only beginning.

the infamous “Do Nothing Congress” of 1948 did more.

this year have approved just 55 laws and,

Bridges have been named, veterans affairs hospitals dedicated, and old laws have been renewed. But little more.

he Violence Against Women Act was renewed; legislation was passed to keep the government’s helium gas reserves open; and Congress came to an agreement to fund the government — more than two weeks after the October shutdown.

I disagree that this is the solution and also disagree that over generalization that all of congress are like this. I won't say more since this is not the place for such discussion.

 

[Gardenlady]

it's a common nickname of sorts in some generations, mine included - it's not always used as a word reflective of age, depending I suppose on the age or occupation of the speaker

Oh, I know - it just sounds ridiculous to my ears. Like I said, pet peeve.


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[Gardenlady]

IMO,the only real step, it seems, in, addressing our countries many problems is term limits for congress, Period. These days they seem to spend their workdays either campaigning, or on investigative committees on colleagues in the other party.


They then, years later, release a a1200 page report that no one reads, that is filled with fiscally meaningless suggestions. The got printing office prints xx amount of copies. They are then placed in the got printing office , gathering moth balls . They only seem to dine vacation and fight with the other party – that’s it.



In private sector if you don’t do your job your leave. That simple.
[FONT=&quot]This Congress going down as least productive ( and this was a year ago!)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...-productive/kGAVEBskUeqCB0htOUG9GI/story.html


We spend a billion dollars a year on this madness! Term limits, that seems to be the only beginning.

the infamous “Do Nothing Congress” of 1948 did more.

this year have approved just 55 laws and,

Bridges have been named, veterans affairs hospitals dedicated, and old laws have been renewed. But little more.

he Violence Against Women Act was renewed; legislation was passed to keep the government’s helium gas reserves open; and Congress came to an agreement to fund the government — more than two weeks after the October shutdown.

The problem is larger than term limits would fix, but at the same time, smaller steps could be taken but won't be.

I'm not sure why VAWA was included here, but it's an important piece of legislation that really doesn't deserve to be grouped with dedicating bridges.


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[Blondie in Spokane]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/0...-stopping-campus-gunman-has-wedding-registry/


How cool!

The Seattle Pacific University student who witnesses say tackled a campus gunman during a deadly shooting Thursday reportedly has had his wedding registry and honeymoon paid for by strangers after accounts of his heroics spread on Twitter.

 

[Nasteria]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/0...-stopping-campus-gunman-has-wedding-registry/

The Seattle Pacific University student who witnesses say tackled a campus gunman during a deadly shooting Thursday reportedly has had his wedding registry and honeymoon paid for by strangers after accounts of his heroics spread on Twitter.

Faith restored in the good that people do. The guy is a true hero in my book.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Wedding Gifts Continue to Pour in

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wedding-gifts-pour-seattle-shooting-hero-jon-meis-n125441

 

[SStarr33]

this year have approved just 55 laws and,

Um, the fewer laws the better.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

‘I just got a second chance’: Wounded Seattle Pacific University student speaks out about shooting

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...y-student-centimeters-death-article-1.1823088

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Seattle campus shooting hero calls gunman "sad and troubled"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/seattle-campus-shooting-hero-calls-gunman-sad-and-troubled/

 

[CARIIS]

I am posting this from the Justin Bourque, situation because the themes continue:








Irene said that during her time working in a support network, helping families deal with tragedies, she met people “time and again” who couldn’t get the proper help for mental illness.

“If you could get the right help from the beginning, when the signs start and not later when it’s too late, these tragedies could be avoided.”


Mental illness still carries a huge stigma, she said, noting that people are quick to help people with cancer, or handicaps or other issues.

http://o.canada.com/news/bourque-family-tried-to-get-help-for-accused-moncton-killer

 

[CARIIS]

Um, the fewer laws the better.

I agree, I was referring to mental illiness funding !