Deceased/Not Found WA - Rachael Anderson, 40, Clarkston, 16 April 2010 - #3 *C. Capone guilty*

[sleuthy sleutherson]

I understand you are upset and find yourself probably asking why this happened. It is never just one thing one can point to and say this is why...after the fact--- ie: she should have seen this coming.
Granted Rachael made some bad choices..we all do; but she also tried to remedy the problem by getting out of the situation. She was already in his crosshairs at that point. She was doing all the positive things to take care of herself and her children. Finding a good job, going back to school and trying to get their lives back on track from this train-wreck named CAC. She, as with other women, had no idea how disturbed this man was, until it's too late. She was trying to protect herself and her family and had been working with LE and the system to help her do this. It failed--as also happens too frequently. What RA was negligent of was the knowledge and awareness that all women need to possess and pass on to each other, their mothers, children, sisters, co-workers etc. LE and the media could be a big part of this in that area. I'm sure it would behoove them and hopefully reduce the incidents of domestic violence calls and God forbid--worse as we have in RA' case. It's rampant and the frequency goes up anytime there is a fall in the economy as well--more stressors. Many women marry or get into a relationship with someone and find out it's not a good thing and remove themselves from the situation and that's the end of it--normally. This man was not...no where near it. He has a rage for women somewhere in him--from what I don't know. I'm am NOT coming to his defense, but am curious as to why that rage was there and too find it upsetting that he could not control his emotions.
Yes, RA made some bad choices and bypassed the warning signs---for whatever emotional or logically reasons---but she was a victim as well. Please don't forget that. Please put your energies of being upset, confused, and blaming to help others see and take actions upon those warning signs---I think Rachael would want you to.

Not lecturing and sorry for the long post--it's just the way I see it.

I understand these situations happen, too often...however, I also know that the fathers of these children were more then HAPPY to have had their sons in their care at the time she started to be harrased and they should have been. My frustrations simply lie in that issue, she was not afraid of these men and knew they would not hurt her children. She absolutley was a VICTIM and it is sick and everyone is upset about the scary crap and abuse she went through. I know she was trying with LE and yes it is very disturbing that too many of this situations are not taken seriously enough from the beginning and that is not her fault. But everyone needs to understand when you have a safe place to turn to for your children you should, it's not about your personal life and trying to be independent, it's about your children being safe. Making a better a life for herself and children was great and I know she was trying and it is so sad that it appears this will not happen now. Again, I am glad her sons are safe and I wish she was too! I have nothing but sadness for her, she was a pretty woman with great children and grandchildren. I just know there are things that could have been done differently and I hate to hear these boys talk about the piece of crap CC was and how scared their mom was of him, they should have been with their dads during this time IMO.:twocents:

 

[hollyblue]

I understand these situations happen, too often...however, I also know that the fathers of these children were more then HAPPY to have had their sons in their care at the time she started to be harrased and they should have been. My frustrations simply lie in that issue, she was not afraid of these men and knew they would not hurt her children. She absolutley was a VICTIM and it is sick and everyone is upset about the scary crap and abuse she went through. I know she was trying with LE and yes it is very disturbing that too many of this situations are not taken seriously enough from the beginning and that is not her fault. But everyone needs to understand when you have a safe place to turn to for your children you should, it's not about your personal life and trying to be independent, it's about your children being safe. Making a better a life for herself and children was great and I know she was trying and it is so sad that it appears this will not happen now. Again, I am glad her sons are safe and I wish she was too! I have nothing but sadness for her, she was a pretty woman with great children and grandchildren. I just know there are things that could have been done differently and I hate to hear these boys talk about the piece of crap CC was and how scared their mom was of him, they should have been with their dads during this time IMO.:twocents:

I hope the counseling being provided for the children and extended families will be advantageous in the healing for all concerned.

 

[hollyblue]

I've been meaning to ask this before and keep forgetting. Can any of the locals tell me where Moscow Mountian is? Describe or give map with a general idea. Thanks.

 

[BeanE]

I've been meaning to ask this before and keep forgetting. Can any of the locals tell me where Moscow Mountian is? Describe or give map with a general idea. Thanks.

I'm not a local, but here it is in Google Maps:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...868782&spn=0.015598,0.042272&t=h&z=15&iwloc=A


and in Bing maps:
http://www.bing.com/maps/?FORM=Z9LH...wLjI2NDA0NDc0Mzg0MzUlN2UtMTE4LjA2NDM2OTIwMTU=

 

[hollyblue]

I'm not a local, but here it is in Google Maps:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...868782&spn=0.015598,0.042272&t=h&z=15&iwloc=A


and in Bing maps:
http://www.bing.com/maps/?FORM=Z9LH...wLjI2NDA0NDc0Mzg0MzUlN2UtMTE4LjA2NDM2OTIwMTU=

TY, I guess I could have done that myself, but just thought it was an area named by the locals and wouldn't be on any map. LOL

This is the approx. area where I think she may be---I think Moscow Mtn is part of the St Joe's Forest.

Also found that EJB, who was once listed with his business is prolly his deceased mother from western WA. He shares his father's name.

 

[hollyblue]

I got the go ahead from Tricia to add the timeline to my signature for easy retrieval. All suggestions are welcome to it or the map. Let's hope it stays put---I've had mucho problems as this is my first try with google docs.

 

[Friend0325]

I was not in anyway commenting on RA as a person or the fact that she didn't have a good heart. It is good that people want to and do see the good side of people, that does not mean you have to marry them and subject yourself and your children to their repeated lack of self control and irresponsibility. There were RED FLAGS from the beginning of their relationship and it is not her I have opinions about, it is the situation I have opinions about.

Yes CC had a serious criminal history, he had 2 to 3 wives prior and his own children that he did not communicate with, I'm sorry but as a mother myself those are some serious red flags that I just would not put myself or my children into that relationship and the boys fathers are mad as heck about it and I fully understand why. You can see the good in someone but when someone is as old as CC is and has the criminal history he does, has his own children whose lives he is not a part of does that not tell you something about the sort of person he is???? If he didn't care about his own children he certainley isn't going to care about someone else's children.

For someone to come on here and publicly voice their opinion about one of her sons fathers when he and his wife and child are literally grieving and sick over the fact that this little boys mother is gone is just not necessary at this time. Quite obviously whatever anyone thinks about her ex husband cannot even come close to what CC put her and all her children through. I am totally supportive and understanding of the fact there are two sides to every story and everyone perceives things differently as well, I am just saying that maybe now is not the time to voice opinions to the fathers new wife about whatever sort of issues they have with him. They are doing their very best to keep it together and want answers and justice just as much as anyone, they are absolutley sick that 4 childrens mother and a grandmother is gone. Maybe people could be offering support to these fathers instead of opinions about the past. People that care about her and her children could be offering their support to them and their fathers right now, they are after all in some serious emotional termoil and grief as well. It is very disheartining to see these fathers and these two young boys wondering everyday, will we get some answers, what do we tell the boys, where is mommy.

Do not take my post as a comment as to her as a person I already stated I did not know her and I'm not in any way insinuating that she wasn't a good mother or didn't have a good heart, obviously she has 4 children, grandchildren and many wonderful friends that are grieving for her, my point is I with all of my heart wish she had never gotten into this relationship. I am simply putting the facts out there so that hopefully people will be become more aware that there are just some people you should not let into your life no matter how good you want to believe they are.

I support this whole family and I absolutley want her to come home, even if she didn't have children, no one deserves to be in this situation most of all children. I am just saying to others, that when you have children please think of them don't just get involved with someone that has a bad past and you want to believe they are good now, do not ignore the red flags. Be supportive of their good qualities but don't marry them and allow them to drag you and your children down with them.

Yes I posted the facts that she was aware of his history because it was a fact, she had confided in her youngest sons father and when he offered to come stay at the house with her and the boys or for them to come stay with him, when her tires were being slashed and she was scared for her life and someone was watching her through her windows and making scary phone calls to her, she flat out declined and told him her personal life was none of his business. Well I'm sorry but I do not agree with that at all! When you have a child with someone your personal life is very much their business, especially when the safety of children are involved. Can any of us even imagine if something had happened to either of these boys because of this situation? I hate to even think about the fact that they could have been with her that night. She is obvioulsy a strong woman but that is not enough to stop a crazy person from doing what they will to you or your children.

This is a form of "beating a dead horse." Let's hope awareness come out of this and it can be prevented in the future, for the many kind hearted women out there that get taken advantage of every day/month/year. The Walk for Awareness" in Lewiston was fantastic. I am so grateful for all of the people out there who are looking for Rachael and want to bring her home and all of the people on here who are kind enough to try to figure out what happened. I hope between them and LE, CC stays locked away.

I, too...am wondering about what 1Forvery1 brought up about Rachael being in Moscow. He drove the Yukon all the way back to Lewiston (since we have a friend saying he brought him back.) He wanted the Yukon pointing away from him. Do we think he would also bring Rachael back to Lewiston as well...in order to keep pointing away from himself? Just a thought.

 

[1forevry1]

This is a form of "beating a dead horse." Let's hope awareness come out of this and it can be prevented in the future, for the many kind hearted women out there that get taken advantage of every day/month/year. The Walk for Awareness" in Lewiston was fantastic. I am so grateful for all of the people out there who are looking for Rachael and want to bring her home and all of the people on here who are kind enough to try to figure out what happened. I hope between them and LE, CC stays locked away.

I, too...am wondering about what 1Forvery1 brought up about Rachael being in Moscow. He drove the Yukon all the way back to Lewiston (since we have a friend saying he brought him back.) He wanted the Yukon pointing away from him. Do we think he would also bring Rachael back to Lewiston as well...in order to keep pointing away from himself? Just a thought.

See this is my whole naggingness (yes I know that really isn't a word) of this case. CC doesn't want this pointed at him. My question is WHO saw her in Moscow on THAT friday, and WHY can't LE AT LEAST give us POSITIVE knowledge that YES she was INDEED seen IN MOSCOW THAT FRIDAY, and by WHOM!
I wouldn't doubt that what ever happened that weekend he drove the Yukon down to Lewiston Monday morning fairly early, his friend then took him back to Moscow where he then called RA at work to tell her that her car was done, just to give himself some sort of an alibi-ish, because if he called her from MOSCOW the cell phone records should be able to tell that. The Yukon apparently sat there by the Dyna Mart all day Monday, Tuesday and until it was spotted on Wednesday when the flier for it got into the hands of someone that was finally paying attention.
I am both anxious and nervous for next week. I would hope that we finally receive some "breaking news".
My husband seems to think it could be possible that RA is in a witness protection program until they can get as much dirt as possible on CC. Anybody else feeling this? I am up in the air about it, and at this point there isn't anything that we can rule out.

 

[monkeymama]

See this is my whole naggingness (yes I know that really isn't a word) of this case. CC doesn't want this pointed at him. My question is WHO saw her in Moscow on THAT friday, and WHY can't LE AT LEAST give us POSITIVE knowledge that YES she was INDEED seen IN MOSCOW THAT FRIDAY, and by WHOM!
I wouldn't doubt that what ever happened that weekend he drove the Yukon down to Lewiston Monday morning fairly early, his friend then took him back to Moscow where he then called RA at work to tell her that her car was done, just to give himself some sort of an alibi-ish, because if he called her from MOSCOW the cell phone records should be able to tell that. The Yukon apparently sat there by the Dyna Mart all day Monday, Tuesday and until it was spotted on Wednesday when the flier for it got into the hands of someone that was finally paying attention.
I am both anxious and nervous for next week. I would hope that we finally receive some "breaking news".
My husband seems to think it could be possible that RA is in a witness protection program until they can get as much dirt as possible on CC. Anybody else feeling this? I am up in the air about it, and at this point there isn't anything that we can rule out.

I would love to hear that she was in witness protection and that CC was using his business as a front, or anything
we could possibly think of, and the ATF, FBI, and whatever other initials were building a case against him. I might believe it, but if what wilcoxteam heard is true, I hardly think that is the case. I keep hoping that she disappeared and heard CC was in jail and will just walk back into her door. I don't know what to think anymore. I am so tired and jaded from all of the violence that is going on in our society. This senseless violence towards women and children is breaking my heart. :banghead:

 

[1forevry1]

I would love to hear that she was in witness protection and that CC was using his business as a front, or anything
we could possibly think of, and the ATF, FBI, and whatever other initials were building a case against him. I might believe it, but if what wilcoxteam heard is true, I hardly think that is the case. I keep hoping that she disappeared and heard CC was in jail and will just walk back into her door. I don't know what to think anymore. I am so tired and jaded from all of the violence that is going on in our society. This senseless violence towards women and children is breaking my heart. :banghead:

It IS indeed amazing how much of this there really is. Children have no choice to be put right where they are, some of those women and children have no idea that there really IS a better life, one with no violence, no abuse and no heartbreak every single stinking dang day.

 

[sleuthy sleutherson]

This is a form of "beating a dead horse." Let's hope awareness come out of this and it can be prevented in the future, for the many kind hearted women out there that get taken advantage of every day/month/year. The Walk for Awareness" in Lewiston was fantastic. I am so grateful for all of the people out there who are looking for Rachael and want to bring her home and all of the people on here who are kind enough to try to figure out what happened. I hope between them and LE, CC stays locked away.

I, too...am wondering about what 1Forvery1 brought up about Rachael being in Moscow. He drove the Yukon all the way back to Lewiston (since we have a friend saying he brought him back.) He wanted the Yukon pointing away from him. Do we think he would also bring Rachael back to Lewiston as well...in order to keep pointing away from himself? Just a thought.

He had between Friday night and Monday morning to cover his tracks. We all know that in this area you could hide something or someone way out in the middle of no where and that was plenty of time for him to do that. That is what bothers me, if he never tells it could be years or maybe never before we know. Hopefully one of his "friends" has some input.

 

[monkeymama]

anything new? It has gone completely quiet again.

 

[1forevry1]

anything new? It has gone completely quiet again.

Completely quiet is right. I am so surprised that there isn't even a news update that says "We have no news to update" anything to keep her in the media.

Blows my mind. But I am hoping the LE has a dang good reason for it!

 

[Wilcox Team]

Nothing new, but I did get a tip that we may be hearing about something next week. Not sure what. Could be something small or hopefully something big. I don't feel that she is in the witness pertection program, but like you said 1forevry1, at this point you can't rule anything out. I would think though that if she was in the witness pertection program, they would not have created a "task force" consisting of Latah, Nez Perce and Asotin counties along with the FBI. Just my thoughts. Always a possibility for anything at this point.

 

[1forevry1]

Nothing new, but I did get a tip that we may be hearing about something next week. Not sure what. Could be something small or hopefully something big. I don't feel that she is in the witness pertection program, but like you said 1forevry1, at this point you can't rule anything out. I would think though that if she was in the witness pertection program, they would not have created a "task force" consisting of Latah, Nez Perce and Asotin counties along with the FBI. Just my thoughts. Always a possibility for anything at this point.

I agree the WPP is a far stretch, leave it to my husband to throw just one more theory out there when the lot of us are confused enough as it is!

Anxious to hear the news that is for sure! SOMETHING needs to happen here, we just need to keep Rachaels story first and foremost! Keep us posted on what you can!

And GET SOME SLEEP! :heart:

 

[anyoldtime48]

Completely quiet is right. I am so surprised that there isn't even a news update that says "We have no news to update" anything to keep her in the media.

Blows my mind. But I am hoping the LE has a dang good reason for it!

BBM

I think I'd settle for a half-arsed reason at this juncture.

Slightly off-topic, so I hope OK to link, but I feel this story is relevant in two ways:

Firstly, it shows how GOOD media folks can do serious investigative reporting when a crime (murder) has been committed. This one barely 24 hours old, yet the Seattle Times has far more than any other news outlet. For Rachael, only KLEW and KXLY (barely) have done much to inject their noses into LE's faces to try for answers. Spokesman-Review used to have some staff that would go after real investigative news, but they haven't even printed a word about Rachael that I can recall seeing.

Secondly, this was also a case of domestic abuse going on for some time, but the wife in this case was blessedly not at home when her deputy husband went whack job, and it appears he let his daughter and friend go of their own accord, which are the only "happy" endings to this very sad affair.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011873233_shooting16m.html

It is just one more example of how abuse goes down. This one "may" have been quiet, and until yesterday, "may" have been non violent, but this is a fine example of mental abuse and I doubt it all started recently. His wife probably endured for years.

Rachael, bless her soul, saw the signs and tried to get away, but for her, it seems was too late. CC had already progressed to that very violent path of no return (IMO). Sure would like to believe that she was in witness protection, but I can't find a logical path to get there, given we know she was physically abused, mentally abused through manipulation and lies; harassed and threatened after she left. Then disappears when it seems she was close to figuring out that it was CC harassing her after all.

Yes, indeed, the media needs to stay on it. Keep her name and face out there, and at some point hope they will do a behind-the-scenes story like the Times. If it serves to wake just ONE woman up to abuse in her life and gets her out of a bad situation before somebody dies, then it is surely worth the time to put words to it!

Media needs to rediscover investigative reporting and get off their collective behinds and do more than simply "sorry, nothing new to report."

Off rant!!!! :furious:

 

[hollyblue]

Nothing new, but I did get a tip that we may be hearing about something next week. Not sure what. Could be something small or hopefully something big. I don't feel that she is in the witness pertection program, but like you said 1forevry1, at this point you can't rule anything out. I would think though that if she was in the witness pertection program, they would not have created a "task force" consisting of Latah, Nez Perce and Asotin counties along with the FBI. Just my thoughts. Always a possibility for anything at this point.

They normally tell the immediate family also.

 

[1forevry1]

BBM

I think I'd settle for a half-arsed reason at this juncture.

Slightly off-topic, so I hope OK to link, but I feel this story is relevant in two ways:

Firstly, it shows how GOOD media folks can do serious investigative reporting when a crime (murder) has been committed. This one barely 24 hours old, yet the Seattle Times has far more than any other news outlet. For Rachael, only KLEW and KXLY (barely) have done much to inject their noses into LE's faces to try for answers. Spokesman-Review used to have some staff that would go after real investigative news, but they haven't even printed a word about Rachael that I can recall seeing.

Secondly, this was also a case of domestic abuse going on for some time, but the wife in this case was blessedly not at home when her deputy husband went whack job, and it appears he let his daughter and friend go of their own accord, which are the only "happy" endings to this very sad affair.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011873233_shooting16m.html

It is just one more example of how abuse goes down. This one "may" have been quiet, and until yesterday, "may" have been non violent, but this is a fine example of mental abuse and I doubt it all started recently. His wife probably endured for years.

Rachael, bless her soul, saw the signs and tried to get away, but for her, it seems was too late. CC had already progressed to that very violent path of no return (IMO). Sure would like to believe that she was in witness protection, but I can't find a logical path to get there, given we know she was physically abused, mentally abused through manipulation and lies; harassed and threatened after she left. Then disappears when it seems she was close to figuring out that it was CC harassing her after all.

Yes, indeed, the media needs to stay on it. Keep her name and face out there, and at some point hope they will do a behind-the-scenes story like the Times. If it serves to wake just ONE woman up to abuse in her life and gets her out of a bad situation before somebody dies, then it is surely worth the time to put words to it!

Media needs to rediscover investigative reporting and get off their collective behinds and do more than simply "sorry, nothing new to report."

Off rant!!!! :furious:

I watched this story play out, what a mess. Thank goodness those kids got out and it is horrid that they in laws were killed. I havent check the news yet this morning but I am very curious where the wife was/is and what in the world this was even about.
But here too he has had mental issue in the past. Why is it people over looks these things? Mental issues + having a service revolver= hello trouble. Just like CC in this case felon + arsenal = disaster, although in reality I am very thankful that CC was stupid enough to buy a gun, knowing what we know now, that gun is the reason he is sitting his white @ behind bars right now. But I still think that when hunters want to purchase a hunting license they should have to go through some sort of database to determine who is packing that shouldn't be. JMO, cause it sounds like had we of had something like that CC (among others ) could have been brought down a whole long time ago.

Little off topic here but still.....

 

[hollyblue]

Rachael's photo album is back!!!! Thank you AmandaReckonwith.!

 

[1forevry1]

http://www.klewtv.com/news/local/93735694.html

MOSCOW - Charles Capone, the estranged husband of missing Clarkston woman Rachael Anderson, remains in custody in Bonner County, held without bail on a federal charge of felon in possession of a firearm.

Business neighbors of Capone say they knew of his criminal history, but that he was a "real friendly guy."

"He worked hard, he stayed late in the evenings," said owner of LaMoreaux Photography and Studio Mark LaMoreaux. "He was always busy and seemed to be very personable and friendly. Fast, fast in everything. He was fast."