WA WA - Sky Metalwala, 2, Bellevue, 6 Nov 2011 - # 1

[gitana1]

Suspending the search pretty much says it all.
Too sad..

Maybe it's only suspended because it's too dark to search?

This news article states the parents are going though a divorce and the Father has not seen the child/children in months

I'm glad that is confirmed. I don't want to be in trouble!!!!!

 

[LetItBe]

Take one and leave one? This isn't the penny container sitting by the register at the local gas station. This is your kids. I don't care if she had to put both of them on her back and crawl down the road lopsided to get gas. Unbelievable. Yep that is exactly what it is, unbelievable. :furious:

 

[RabidBadger]

This news article states the parents are going though a divorce and the Father has not seen the child/children in months

If this is true then even if the child is recovered, she just lost custody of both children, based on idiocy alone.

 

[HRCODEPINK]

I wonder if they had anyone looking at the Foster Island area. Seems to be a heavily wooded and large area. Wonder what reason she gave for being in Bellevue so early this morning. Seems really odd to leave your child alone even close to home, much less 10 miles away. I've lived here my whole life, practically on the same block the whole time and 10 miles away I am less familiar with the area. Wonder if she used to live there.

Wanna hear what the 4 year old has to say, and hear the 911 call.

 

[christee]

Okay I messed up and posted here instead of another thread. Whichever Mod caught it, thanks. You hafta admit it's a surprise it doesn't happen more often :giggle:

 

[MizStery]

Oh,another important point lots of people out riding their bikes. A beautiful sunny Sunday morning and there are more bicyclist than cars. 112th and 12th is the northern boundary of downtown Bellevue so that is a destinatiion for a lot of folks. Now,I really am stumped why she would leave the 2year old. Makes no sense. Even if she didn't have her cell any of the bicyclist would have let her use their cell to call for help. There is no doubt in my mind on a bight sunny morning between people out walking,bicyclist and people driving to the many churches there was no reason to leave the two year old.

 

[HRCODEPINK]

Around 6 p.m., police suspended a search in the area...saying they are confident the child is not in the immediate vicinity. But they continue to follow up on other leads.

A spokesman for the boy's father said parents are going through a divorce and he hasn't had any contact with the children in months. Police say he is cooperating with the investigation.

Not looking good for mom...

http://www.king5.com/home/Two-year-old-boy-misisng-in-Bellevue-133327908.html

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Well, to me that sounds like they are NOT leaning towards him getting out of his car seat and out of the car and wandering off on his own.

I don't think any of us were leaning that way, either.

 

[PoppyH]

Around 6 p.m., police suspended a search in the area...saying they are confident the child is not in the immediate vicinity. But they continue to follow up on other leads.

A spokesman for the boy's father said parents are going through a divorce and he hasn't had any contact with the children in months. Police say he is cooperating with the investigation.

Not looking good for mom...

http://www.king5.com/home/Two-year-old-boy-misisng-in-Bellevue-133327908.html

I don't think LE is buying her story, and niether am I, you just don't leave a child in a car alone and take off with the other, I just doesn't make sense , period.

 

[RabidBadger]

I have two theories:

1) She has killed her son or;
2) Was afraid of losing custody (maybe she was afraid the husband would flee with the boy to India, there is no custody agreement with India, I think) so she staged his disappearance and has him safely hidden away.

I'm hoping for the latter.

 

[HRCODEPINK]

I don't think LE is buying her story, and niether am I, you just don't leave a child in a car alone and take off with the other, I just doesn't make sense , period.

That is exactly where I am at, PoppyH. And if mom is involved, I imagine that LE will probably break her quickly. If you can't come up with a better story than this one, you aren't going to last under police questioning for long. As I said before, I am normally one to hold out longer than most before finger pointing, and as a Legal Studies major, I WANT to give people the benefit of the doubt...but you gotta work with me, and this story is ridiculous. If true, she needs to be arrested anyway.

 

[GingerRed]

I have two theories:

1) She has killed her son or;
2) Was afraid of losing custody (maybe she was afraid the husband would flee with the boy to India, there is no custody agreement with India, I think) so she staged his disappearance and has him safely hidden away.

I'm hoping for the latter.

I do hope she staged it for custody reasons, but what about their four year old daughter who is not missing? Based on digging I've done--so this is a big MOOOOOO on my part for the moment--I don't think the father is a citizen in India, just ethnically Indian.

 

[gitana1]

Well, to me that sounds like they are NOT leaning towards him getting out of his car seat and out of the car and wandering off on his own.

I don't think any of us were leaning that way, either.

Maybe there was zero scent of Sky that dogs could alert on, so that, the overall circumstances and a search of the area (no tracks, nothing to indicate anyone other than mom left or approached the car, nothing to indicate a child left the car), led them to believe he's not in the area. Scary.

I have two theories:

1) She has killed her son or;
2) Was afraid of losing custody (maybe she was afraid the husband would flee with the boy to India, there is no custody agreement with India, I think) so she staged his disappearance and has him safely hidden away.

I'm hoping for the latter.

I'm getting the sense that Sky is part Pakistani, ethnic Indian, but of Pakistani descent. I say that because a search of the last name pulled up tons of people in Washington with that last name, all with connections to Pakistan, none with apparent connects to India. Pakistan is even worse than India when it comes to international child abductions. Horrendous track record.

But here's the thing, the articles insinuate that the older child is from the same dad. So why only hide one?

 

[PoppyH]

That is exactly where I am at, PoppyH. And if mom is involved, I imagine that LE will probably break her quickly. If you can't come up with a better story than this one, you aren't going to last under police questioning for long. As I said before, I am normally one to hold out longer than most before finger pointing, and as a Legal Studies major, I WANT to give people the benefit of the doubt...but you gotta work with me, and this story is ridiculous. If true, she needs to be arrested anyway.

Hopefully they will get her on child endagerment, or something she has already admitted to leaving the child unattended in a car for over an hour, to me that is enough in itself to jail her

 

[gitana1]

I do hope she staged it for custody reasons, but what about their four year old daughter who is not missing? Based on digging I've done--so this is a big MOOOOOO on my part for the moment--I don't think the father is a citizen in India, just ethnically Indian.

Oh, the other child is a girl? That MAY explain something.

 

[RabidBadger]

I do hope she staged it for custody reasons, but what about their four year old daughter who is not missing? Based on digging I've done--so this is a big MOOOOOO on my part for the moment--I don't think the father is a citizen in India, just ethnically Indian.

I would agree but:

"Citizenship by descent
Persons born outside India on or after 26 January 1950 but before 10 December 1992 are citizens of India by descent if their father was a citizen of India at the time of their birth."

Indian nationality law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If he was born before 1992, he may well be considered an citizen of India.

Also, how could she ensure the 4yo's recount matches her story? If she had accomplices who followed her. She gets out of the car with the 4 yo and leaves, accomplice grabs Sky and hides him.

 

[HRCODEPINK]

Hopefully they will get her on child endagerment, or something she has already admitted to leaving the child unattended in a car for over an hour, to me that is enough in itself to jail her

That sounds highly plausible. At the very least we have criminal negligence. I looked this up in one of my Criminal Law books when catching up on the Conrad Murray trial for those who are interested:

"Gross Negligence – Flagrant or shameful acts which constitute a failure to use reasonable caution or care which results in harm to another person"

McCord, James W.H., et al, Criminal Law and Procedure for the Paralegal, A Systems Approach, 4th edition, pg 93-4

"Recklessly – means knowing that there is a substantial and unjustifiable risk that conduct might cause a particular result but not intending the harmful result…In being reckless, the perpetrator does not knowingly or purposefully intend the harm, but purposefully or knowingly creates a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the harm may occur.

"Negligently – means thoughtlessly or carelessly creating a significant unjustifiable risk of harm without realizing the risk has been created or without the intent to create the risk, yet the act or failure to act is such that a reasonable person would have known that it created the risk. There is no intent to harm or even a thought that the act will cause harm, but to a reasonable person the risk is apparent and should have been avoided."

McCord, James W.H., et al, Criminal Law and Procedure for the Paralegal, A Systems Approach, 4th edition, pg 60

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if LE pulls a Casey Anthony and arrests her tonight for endangerment or neglect and then keeps questioning her to find out where the baby is.

 

[gitana1]

I would agree but:

"Citizenship by descent
Persons born outside India on or after 26 January 1950 but before 10 December 1992 are citizens of India by descent if their father was a citizen of India at the time of their birth."

Indian nationality law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If he was born before 1992, he may well be considered an citizen of India.

Also, how could she ensure the 4yo's recount matches her story? If she had accomplices who followed her. She gets out of the car with the 4 yo and leaves, accomplice grabs Sky and hides him.

The majority of people in Pakistan are Punjabi, a people from the Punjab region of India and Pakistan. We may call them ""Indian"when really, they could be from either country.

 

[HRCODEPINK]

Maybe not a sister:

As of 5:45 p.m. Sunday, the mother was still talking to detectives. The four-year old boy was back with family.

http://www.myfoxspokane.com/news/kc...sing-twoyear-old-boy-20111106,0,2630626.story

 

[RabidBadger]

The majority of people in Pakistan are Punjabi, a people from the Punjab region of India and Pakistan. We may call them ""Indian"when really, they could be from either country.

True.

"On 13 April, 1951 the Constituent Assembly of Pakistan, the national legislature, promulgated the Pakistani Citizenship Act to settle questions of nationality and citizenship. The Pakistan Citizenship Act of 1951 conferred the citizenship of Pakistan to the following:
Persons themselves or those with grandparents or parents born in the territory now constituting Pakistan and not residing permanently in another country since 14 August, 1947 (Pakistan's independence day).[1]
Persons themselves or those with grandparents or parents born or having lived in the territories constituting India on the 31 March, 1937.[1]
Persons themselves or those with grandparents or parents naturalised as a British subject in Pakistan.[1]
Persons themselves or those with grandparents or parents who migrated to Pakistan from any territory in the Indo-Pakistan sub-continent.[1]
Every individual born in Pakistan following the enactment of the legislation would automatically become a citizen of Pakistan.[1]"

Pakistani nationality law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So I guess the custody concern wouldn't change whether the father is Indian or Pakistani