WA - Unidentified Male: "Lyle Stevik", Grays Harbor, 17 Sept 2001 - #4

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Hi this is my first time posting in the forum but I have been a long time follower & have attempted some sleuthing on Lyle.
I have one question, apologies if it has been answered.

The hotel clerk stated he had a slight Canadian accent. Can someone have a 'slight' accent? What was the rest of the accent? Would it be safe to assume he was Canadian by birth but migrated to the States as a young child & had morphed into an US accent?

Being from Australia this is puzzling to me.

PS. I follow the FB page & just want to say AW you are amazing!! Thanks for all you have done thus far
 
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The link doesnt work for me. Romanian....hmmmmm....
 
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Hi this is my first time posting in the forum but I have been a long time follower & have attempted some sleuthing on Lyle.
I have one question, apologies if it has been answered.

The hotel clerk stated he had a slight Canadian accent. Can someone have a 'slight' accent? What was the rest of the accent? Would it be safe to assume he was Canadian by birth but migrated to the States as a young child & had morphed into an US accent?

Being from Australia this is puzzling to me.

PS. I follow the FB page & just want to say AW you are amazing!! Thanks for all you have done thus far

I guess it is possible in some way.

His accent might have resembled that of any Canadian(s) that might have stayed there in the past.
 
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Trying this one, Troy Cook, missing 1998..

http://novascotia.ca/just/public_safety/rewards/case_detail.asp?cid=22

"Troy COOK has been missing since June 12, 1998. At approximately 10:00 am on June 11, 1998, Mr. COOK was dropped off near his apartment, 1 Victoria Street, Truro, Nova Scotia, by his father. At 10:30 am, Mrs. Sharon Tucker, an employee at the Atlantic Superstore, received a call from a person claiming to be Troy COOK. Mrs. Tucker is certain that the caller was Mr. COOK, but recalled that he sounded different. Mr. COOK advised her that he would not be into work for his evening shift."
 
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Trying this one, Troy Cook, missing 1998..

http://novascotia.ca/just/public_safety/rewards/case_detail.asp?cid=22

"Troy COOK has been missing since June 12, 1998. At approximately 10:00 am on June 11, 1998, Mr. COOK was dropped off near his apartment, 1 Victoria Street, Truro, Nova Scotia, by his father. At 10:30 am, Mrs. Sharon Tucker, an employee at the Atlantic Superstore, received a call from a person claiming to be Troy COOK. Mrs. Tucker is certain that the caller was Mr. COOK, but recalled that he sounded different. Mr. COOK advised her that he would not be into work for his evening shift."

Hi dotr,

According to Troy's Doe Network profile, he was only 5'6": http://doenetwork.org/cases/3457dmns.html

ETA: Being from (Western) Canada I have always felt Lyle looked Native. But Norman Rivet is the one I keep coming back to. The chin...
 
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IDK what the heck ever happened to my Norman Rivet submission. I'm kind of irritated because I'm pretty sure I sent it twice over the span of a few months. If anyone else wants to send an email to every POC in the Rivet/Stevik case, please, be my guest!!!


ALSO SIDE NOTE: Was anyone else working on the disappearance of Jamie Lee in Alberta, CA? Because I'm losing my mind - and can't find the thread anymore.
 
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I don't want to be a Debbie downer, or anything, but imo Norman is too old to be Lyle, as Norman would've been 39 in 2001. If I remember correctly Lyle was on the younger side,like in his 20s.


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IDK what the heck ever happened to my Norman Rivet submission. I'm kind of irritated because I'm pretty sure I sent it twice over the span of a few months. If anyone else wants to send an email to every POC in the Rivet/Stevik case, please, be my guest!!!


ALSO SIDE NOTE: Was anyone else working on the disappearance of Jamie Lee in Alberta, CA? Because I'm losing my mind - and can't find the thread anymore.

Yes, you said you had submitted it. I remember thanking you for it.

Is this the case you mean? http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...James-Lee-19-Sept-4-2011-possible-trafficking
 
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"Lyle" was at least smart enough to choose an obscure fictional character for his pseudonym, rather than say something like Luke Skywalker or Sherlock Holmes.
 
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Hi this is my first time posting in the forum but I have been a long time follower & have attempted some sleuthing on Lyle.
I have one question, apologies if it has been answered.

The hotel clerk stated he had a slight Canadian accent. Can someone have a 'slight' accent? What was the rest of the accent? Would it be safe to assume he was Canadian by birth but migrated to the States as a young child & had morphed into an US accent?

Being from Australia this is puzzling to me.

PS. I follow the FB page & just want to say AW you are amazing!! Thanks for all you have done thus far

My uneducated opinion is that, in contrast to Oz, there is a wider variation of accents in North America than there is in Australia. This is particularly true in the U.S. The Canadian accent is similar to a Mid-West American accent, so, if someone is from that region versus from Canada, I could understand that someone might say a 'slight' Canadian accent. They might mean that it sounds Mid-West American, with a slight twist.

BTW, in Canada, like in Oz, there isn't much variation in accent for English speakers, until you get to the very far east coast (Newfoundland and Cape Breton Island), where they have a rural Irish country lilt.
 
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IDK what the heck ever happened to my Norman Rivet submission. I'm kind of irritated because I'm pretty sure I sent it twice over the span of a few months. If anyone else wants to send an email to every POC in the Rivet/Stevik case, please, be my guest!!!


ALSO SIDE NOTE: Was anyone else working on the disappearance of Jamie Lee in Alberta, CA? Because I'm losing my mind - and can't find the thread anymore.

So what was Norman's first language? ....french or english? (Rivet seems like a french name to me.) If it was french, then unless he was amazingly fluent (which some Quebecers, particularly from Montreal, are) then I think we could discount him. If his first language was english then he would sound 'Canadian' and fit with the hotel staff's description.
 
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When Mr. Carbuff and I visited Australia a few years back, we were never identified as Americans. In Sydney, they thought we were from Perth. In Perth, they thought we were from Queensland. In Queensland, they thought we were Sydneysiders. My accent's Montana and Mr. C's is Queens, NYC. Because people didn't recognize those less common accents, they categorized them as something unusual that they did know.

I can see something similar happening here. If the slight accent was, say, Israeli, or maybe Zimbabwe, just to grab a couple I noticed recently, the clerk might have only recognized it as unusual and interpreted it as Canadian.
 
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The hotel clerk stated he had a slight Canadian accent. Can someone have a 'slight' accent? What was the rest of the accent? Would it be safe to assume he was Canadian by birth but migrated to the States as a young child & had morphed into an US accent?

As a Canadian living in the mid-west part of the US, people can only pick out my Canadian accent on a few words and even then many people don't pick up on it because the mid-west us accent and the accent across the border (3 hours away) are quite similar for the most part. That reminds me that sometimes people from certain northern parts of the US are mistaken as having Canadian accents by people in other parts of the US. I have a friend from the upper peninsula of Michigan who gets mistaken as Canadian in places like Florida quite frequently. Around here we know it's a UP'er accent but across the country they may not know that. I'm thinking northern Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, North Dakota, etc.

This is why I think Lyle wasn't from a European country or too far away. I think he would have been remembered by more people because his accent would have been more noticeable.
 
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I think we have to be really careful in narrowing down his possible background. Im Swedish, born and raised but spent 10 years living in California. People thought I Was from all kinds of countries including Canada since I manager to not have a particular swedish accent. Also people who were unfamiliar With accents, Would guess on all kinds of states and countries. He could really be from anywhere
 
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I think we have to be really careful in narrowing down his possible background. Im Swedish, born and raised but spent 10 years living in California. People thought I Was from all kinds of countries including Canada since I manager to not have a particular swedish accent. Also people who were unfamiliar With accents, Would guess on all kinds of states and countries. He could really be from anywhere


Good point which we should factor against the fact the hotel where he was found was in washington state; wouldnt they be quite familiar with a canadian accent due to the border proximity?
 
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