WARNING:GRAPHIC PHOTOS Meredith Kercher murdered-Amanda Knox appeals conviction #9

[Allusonz]

Open the window from the inside, put a rock through the window.

That would not explain the impact marks, the footprint marks on the clothes as well as other things seen in the photos

 

[Allusonz]

Did they call their employer (lawyer) and make notification of the situation, or were they calling lawyers to represent them?

Don't think they were just calling to say Hi on a holiday

 

[wasnt_me]

"As for the presence of glass in Romanelli's room, the violence of the blow, the characteristics of the glass (which was rather thin as indicated by Romanelli and Pasquali), the large rock used, and finally the shield effect caused by the inner shutter hanging half-open behind the glass pane [41] (a position of the inner shutter which corresponds to the scratch on it visible in the photos) give an adequate explanation of the distribution of the glass."

Ref: pg 52

Okay, so they are trying to say that the someone threw or hit the glass while the glass frame was open and propped against the white inner shutter? This is their answer for how all that glass got distributed in the room like it did?

 

[Allusonz]

If they were not involved in the actual murder, what would there have been to 'clean up'?

there is no evidence of clean up many have tried this line of thought and failed miserably

 

[otto]

Don't think they were just calling to say Hi on a holiday

I think they were calling to say their home had been made a crime scene and work may be disrupted?

 

[Allusonz]

That would be up to the 'other poster' to verify, not me.

Next you will be trying to tell me that there is less weight put on DNA evidence than other types of evidence

 

[Allusonz]

I think they were calling to say their home had been made a crime scene and work may be disrupted?

On a holiday? With Laura calling from out of town even? I would sincerely doubt it. Anyone that has been involved in the legal field knows you do not talk to LE without a lawyer. I am quite certain they were not calling to pass the time of day, more likely for advice

 

[otto]

there is no evidence of clean up many have tried this line of thought and failed miserably

Still waiting for an explanation for what happened to the other part of the footprint that ends at he edge of the bath mat, and why luminol was needed to reveal evidence.

 

[Allusonz]

Open the window from the inside, put a rock through the window.

Would not explain the glass spray

 

[otto]

Okay, so they are trying to say that the someone threw or hit the glass while the glass frame was open and propped against the white inner shutter? This is their answer for how all that glass got distributed in the room like it did?

Why do you think the window was "propped against the inner shutter" when it was broken?

I actually don't have a clue what happened in the process of breaking the window (not that interested either), but I do know that broken glass doesn't end up on top of other things unless the other things were there first.

 

[Allusonz]

Hi Claudi!! That's an interesting take and it's good to see you.

Funny that I'm over here, the one who is usually saying "they are guilty" in so many other cases with one leg further down the defense fence. Those who don't know me have called me a conspiracy theorist for the defense of AK and RS; which to me is amusing. It's more like a perfect storm than a conspiracy if anything. The investigation just seems to have failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and the police work and CSI was shoddy.

Speaking of conspiracies - it comes to mind that there is no proof that one existed between RG and the others - zip. This conspiracy would have to have been made before AK and RS went back to the flat because otherwise the knife that AK allegedly took from RS's to murder MK would not fit into the scenario.

No evidence of a conspiracy to commit anything or even meet.

So very true!!!

 

[Allusonz]

:spinner: Note if the window was opened (to the inside) the rock could have been thrown from the inside. There is a sort of impact site on the 'white' inner shutters. Hard to figure out anything from the 'glass trajectory' in the room IMO.
It is my belief that a rock was found, the inner shutters and glass window were opened, green outer shutters closed, and the rock thrown against the window from the inside.

The white shutter if it had been closed would not of had imbedded glass on the outside based on the trajectory of the rock

 

[Allusonz]

There are some things that don't make sense on both sides of that shutter issue. I wish someone could do a recreation of how the rock made it into the room, past the inner wooden shutters. And BTW, her room, by the look of the table and the clutter on it, was not as tidy as she claimed, imho. The way the shoes are left looks just like a typical girl's room from my college days and all through the years.

Remember that RG broke into a 2nd story place very much like this just 2 weeks before this happened, so we know he is capable of it. Approximately the same height, same MO

 

[otto]

Remember that RG broke into a 2nd story place very much like this just 2 weeks before this happened, so we know he is capable of it. Approximately the same height, same MO

Was the wall a flat face with nothing to step on?

 

[Allusonz]

Is that where the boots were prior to being 'ransacked'? Is that how she left her room? This is where the 'supposed' truth finding really comes in to play.

According to Filomena her room was spotless. One of the things that has always perplexed me is where would she of put all this stuff? There simply is not sufficient storage for much of it. Most as well do not put their shoes etc inside drawers etc. I do not believe her room was as clean as she might of thought it was. They were very busy ladies with work, Halloween, and then spending much time with their boyfriends etc. I do not believe that cleaning their room was that great of a priority

 

[Allusonz]

I think there are outside shutters and inside glass windows. There is no glass on the ground outside the window. The shutters were swollen from years of being weathered, and would stay closed using friction. If someone climbed in through the window, that person had to perch on the side of the building 20 feet above the ground (nothing to stand on), reach in a broken window with shards of glass everywhere, unlock the window, then climb in through the window without getting cut ... and, of course, then arrange the glass on top of the ransacked items again without getting cut. Anyone that has cleaned up a broken drinking glass knows that a cut is almost par for the course ... but apparently not so with this spiderman feat.

Filomena testified that she did not believe she had closed the shutters completely. She as well gave 3 different descriptions of how much they were closed which raised suspicion to me as to her memory

 

[Allusonz]

Still waiting for an explanation for what happened to the other part of the footprint that ends at he edge of the bath mat, and why luminol was needed to reveal evidence.

They did not use luminol in the bathroom and I already told you as I have on previous occassions that this was a partial footprint

 

[ziggy]

Why do you think the window was "propped against the inner shutter" when it was broken?

I actually don't have a clue what happened in the process of breaking the window (not that interested either), but I do know that broken glass doesn't end up on top of other things unless the other things were there first.

OR...you toss those things down and then disrupt something with glass on it and the glass ends up on top of the first pile ransacked. It's possible. The other things would not necessarily have to be there BEFORE the window glass was broken, merely after other things with glass on them had been distrubed.

 

[ziggy]

Still waiting for an explanation for what happened to the other part of the footprint that ends at he edge of the bath mat, and why luminol was needed to reveal evidence.

Well, according to you, footprints that have been cleaned can still show up under luminol so why not half footprints that have been cleaned?

 

[Allusonz]

Okay, so they are trying to say that the someone threw or hit the glass while the glass frame was open and propped against the white inner shutter? This is their answer for how all that glass got distributed in the room like it did?

Yup so it appears which in my mind leaves more questions than answers