Warren Jeffs FLDS compound in Texas surrounded by police

[barb0301]

Nope, he is a common sexual pervert and belongs in jail. Period.

Absolutely, 100% agreed

 

[JanetElaine]

Speak up, anybody who actually believes that a creepy old man has the right to rape and molest children in the name of his religion.

I'm thinking it's going to be pretty quiet here.

 

[JanetElaine]

The latest from the El Dorado paper at 6pm CDT says that 3 ambulances were seen heading past the law enforcement checkpoint to the compound.

The San Angelo paper is reporting that the leaders at the compound have now refused to allow LE to enter the temple in their search for the 16 year old who first reported the abuse.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/05/183-removed-from-flds-compound-so-far/

http://www.myeldorado.net/

I am worried about the safety of the 16 year old. If she is not out yet, she is in extreme danger.

That scares me. I hope she is safe. What a brave girl she must be!

 

[SuziQ]

I sure hope the young lady who made the report is safe and far away from these people.
I have a question for anyone who is learned on the subject. I know that FLDS women tend to look a certain way and their attire and hair seems to always look identical. Does the same go for LDS women? The reason I ask is that in the last four years I know that I have seen the same group of women and girls and young boys shopping in one of our local stores more times than I can count. And the frequency has really increased to a noticable degree. When you smile and say hi they look at you as if you are the Devil himself. Except for the really curious young kids. And I tend to smile and say Hi to everyone I encounter in a day. Anyway, I wonder if they are FLDS. I also find it odd that they all pile in a van or a truck bed with a man that is waiting in the lot.

The kind of group you are talking about is a polygamist group. They are all over the U.S. and of various offshoot faiths. And they will never aknowledge let alone speak to someone outside their faith. The men are the only ones allowed to. And they have to pile into a van or truck bed because they can't all fit in a regular car. lol. Other than looking exceptionally clean cut and the girls are very cute, you can't tell LDS people apart from the general public.

ETA: I've got the same cold treatment you have when I first moved to Utah and made the mistake of saying hello to a group of them.

 

[SuziQ]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/05/texas.ranch/index.html

Possible standoff looms at polygamist ranch

(snip regarding the 16 year olds husband-POF's pic included)
The warrant cited an "immediate need" for authorities to have access to the 16-year-old and an 8-month-old child with either the last name of Barlow or the girl's last name. It instructs law enforcement officers to look for any records showing that Barlow and the girl were married and any evidence of them having a child.
Barlow is in Arizona and does not know his accuser, his probation officer told The Salt Lake Tribune.
"He said the authorities had called him [in Colorado City, Arizona], and some girl had accused him of assaulting her, and he didn't even know who she was," Bill Loader said.
Barlow pleaded no contest last year to conspiracy to commit sexual conduct with a minor, The Associated Press reported.
He was ordered to register as a sex offender for three years, according to the AP.
His lawyer in that case told the AP he had not spoken to Barlow in a year.

 

[SuziQ]

Then they should bring in a Mormon to search the temple then....

That would be a great idea except the FLDS hates the LDS church because the LDS church excommunicated them all when they outlawed polygamy. Which is why they all started their own communities. Maybe they can appeal to Warren Jeffs to intervene for the safety of his people?

 

[froggierintexas]

The kind of group you are talking about is a polygamist group. They are all over the U.S. and of various offshoot faiths. And they will never aknowledge let alone speak to someone outside their faith. The men are the only ones allowed to. And they have to pile into a van or truck bed because they can't all fit in a regular car. lol. Other than looking exceptionally clean cut and the girls are very cute, you can't tell LDS people apart from the general public.

Thanks.

 

[SuziQ]

Thanks.

Lol, you are welcome. Living in Utah, you are kinda bombarded with this stuff whether you want to be or not.

 

[Floh]

Lol, you are welcome. Living in Utah, you are kinda bombarded with this stuff whether you want to be or not.

I once lived in Utah. yes you are bombarded with stuff.

this group in Eldorado relocated there because it made for easier access to and from Mexico. a branch of the group live there and they trade girls over the boarder back and to.

all this is long overdue for investigation and the fact authorities acted upon the call by one 16 year-old is because they have been awaiting a concrete reason to go in. this was it.

more power to them to smash this oppressive cult and free the children forever.

watch out for Flora Jessop whom i expect to take a part in helping the girls especially to adjust to their new life.

The Flora Jessop story: http://www.helpthechildbrides.com/stories/florajessopautobio.htm

 

[SuziQ]

I love Flora Jessop!

 

[Truly]

According to the search warrant, authorities are looking for Dale Barlow, 50, whom they suspect of having married and fathered a child with a 16-year-old girl.

Watch an Eldorado neighbor talk about the raid »
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Law enforcement agencies raided the ranch Thursday night after receiving a report Monday that a 16-year-old girl had been "sexually and physically abused," Azar said.

Watch buses take girls from compound »
The warrant cited an "immediate need" for authorities to have access to the 16-year-old and an 8-month-old child with either the last name of Barlow or the girl's last name. It instructs law enforcement officers to look for any records showing that Barlow and the girl were married and any evidence of them having a child.
Barlow is in Arizona and does not know his accuser, his probation officer told The Salt Lake Tribune.
"He said the authorities had called him [in Colorado City, Arizona], and some girl had accused him of assaulting her, and he didn't even know who she was," Bill Loader said.
Barlow pleaded no contest last year to conspiracy to commit sexual conduct with a minor, The Associated Press reported.
He was ordered to register as a sex offender for three years, according to the AP

These creepy old men always turn out to be the most despicable cowards. Does the bible mention anywhere that these men are the scum of the earth? Do people who read the bible realize that these men are the scum of the earth? I honestly don't care what these creeps claim to believe. No one ever, in any period of history, has ever had the right to force anyone to marry or have sex with anyone else. Every instance of forcible sex in the name of religion has been wrong. Yet it happens all the time. As soon as we rid ourselves of these perverts, the better for us all. I hope they do more than rescue the kids. They need to arrest and prosecute the creepy old men who have kept this cult alive. Their leader was on the top ten FBI wanted list until he was finally captured and convicted.

I really wonder, when religion is mentioned as a defence, why do people go all soft and mushy and silent? Why don't people jump in and stand up for these kids as you would for any victim of child sexual assault? The regular religious posters have been mighty silent on this matter. Does that mean they condone it? Is there anything anywhere in christian teaching to condone this? Does anyone here agree with creepy old men forcing young girls to have sex with other creepy old men?

Even if your religion says yes, please tell me that you say no.

Or do the ardently faithful defer to religious beliefs at the expense of children? I just don't comprehend how any mom could put anything, any man, any god, above her kids. Especially when she can see these men telling lies right in front of her face in order to sexually abuse her kids.

 

[SuziQ]

http://www.myeldorado.net/

The site won't let me copy and paste. But SWAT made entry and no report of violence.

 

[SuziQ]

Local and state officials entered the temple of a secretive polygamist sect late Saturday, said lawmen blockading the road to the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado.
The action comes hours after local prosecutors said officials were preparing for the worst because a group of FLDS members were resisting efforts to search the structure.
The Texas Department of Public Safety trooper and Schleicher County sheriff’s deputy confirmed that officials have entered the temple but said they had no word on whether anything occurred in the effort. (more at link)

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/05/authorities-prepare-for-worst-in-efforts-to-area/

 

[Floh]

I love Flora Jessop!

So do i!

 

[chiperoni]

Sorry if this was already posted here's an article from the SL Tribune which shows a picture of Dale Barlow the accused sexual abuser of the unidentified 16 year old. LE has not said they found the girl yet.

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8823648?source=rss

 

[trixie]

I have not read all the links but I heard on Fox news today that they've removed over 200 girls from age 6 months to 17 years old. Half of the girls are pregnant.

 

[chiperoni]

The Swat Team entered temple.

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8827762

 

[chiperoni]

I have not read all the links but I heard on Fox news today that they've removed over 200 girls from age 6 months to 17 years old. Half of the girls are pregnant.

That is such sexual abuse. I wonder whether there will be more charges.

 

[ttrachel04]

wow. this is getting INTENSE.

according to cnn, foxnews and msnbc, the situation is still pretty bad. all 3 websites say that authorities are 'preparing for the worst.'

the local stations don't really have TOO much on it, and if they do it hasn't been updated for awhile ... but considering the fact that it's the middle of the night, sunday morning, that isn't surprising. they probably have someone manning the desk and monitoring the situation, and will call a reporter and producer if something HUGE happens.

 

[golfmom]

I was just catching up what's been going on with the sect in the last 5 years or so. I gotta tell you, Flora Jessop is one smart cookie. She caught on to what was going on in Eldorado long before anyone else. Check out this article from 2004 where she begins to alert people that the sect may be planning to set up headquarters there. They even ask her, "What if she's wrong?"

Jessop says she is convinced that the FLDS has set its sights on Eldorado. That means she has set her sights here, too. When asked what if she is wrong about the buildings that are going up just north of town, and what if they turn out to be nothing more than a corporate hunting retreat, she just pauses and says, “I'm not wrong. This has all the signs and it people need to be aware.”

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/6586/who-is-flora-jessop-and-why-is-she-coming-to-eldorado