Warren Jeffs FLDS compound in Texas surrounded by police

[SuziQ]

The thing that bothers me about these pictures is that they are dressed in normal clothing. The girls have cut their hair and they are not wearing the long dresses. What's up with that?

Oh wow that is weird, is that pic labeled correctly?

ETA: nevermind I saw the other pics. I wonder if this was pre Warren Jeffs era?

 

[golfmom]

lol, I could never joing the LDS church because I can't stand layers, ugh! And I would have to give up my cigs and coffee. I'd have to kill someone if they took that from me!

OH Suzi, I'm convinced now that you are my sister. :blowkiss:

 

[BhamMama]

Your perspective is very much appreciated, trixie. I have gotten that impression from news reports, clearly the LDS does not consider the FDLS to be members still of the LDS.

Do you know whether the FDLS themselves still consider themselves to be LDS? Thanks.

FDLS consider themselves the true Mormons and the LDS as not so true Mormons because they say they are not following the rules that the religion is based on. The LDS put aside some of those laws to gain Statehood.

But the FDLS also don't follow most of the laws such as Missionary work, Baptism for the dead or feeding the poor. They can't say they've been following such laws when they are hiding from the world. Then it all comes to light when someone leaves and they find the rules they had were different than LDS. It's all become perverted and twisted.

I do think these 'prophets' have a g-d complex and it's scary how much this reminds me of the Jim Jones compound in the tactics they have been using.

 

[golfmom]

Oh wow that is weird, is that pic labeled correctly?

ETA: nevermind I saw the other pics. I wonder if this was pre Warren Jeffs era?

I think those were taken in '06 -- does anyone know where this demonstration occurred?

ETA: Farmer's Market in Pioneer Park
Is that in Salt Lake City?

 

[trixie]

I'm not and never have been a member of the LDS church but I was born in Utah and currently live there. Yes as part of a community effort the church could do more. As the community as a whole can. But to insinuate the LDS church should bear responisbility for the act of a rogue religion does not make sense. One may be related down the line to a polygamist, but it does not make a non- polygamist a polygamist and visa versa. Just as LDS is not FLDS and visa versa. I am related to some Catholics, does that make me one? It's not an LDS problem it a people problem and people need to band together.

Truly, the church of the special underwear is actually used to refer to the LDS church. lol.

Also, 75 percent of the trib might be mormon. But that because of the percentage of mormons in the population. Not because the paper is pro mormon and hires them purposely. Do 75 percent of mormons that work at Mc Donalds make their burgers mormon? Of course not.

Most of this post doesn't make sense to me. I guess I'm just dense today. I know I didn't say half of what you anwered to. I stand by my post. If you had ever been a Mormon you would know what I'm talking about. Maybe you should not argue about that which you do not know?

 

[SuziQ]

OH Suzi, I'm convinced now that you are my sister. :blowkiss:

That's funny given the topic because women in the LDS church are referred to as Sister so and so. I would be Sister Sue. lol.

 

[golfmom]

That's funny given the topic because women in the LDS church are referred to as Sister so and so. I would be Sister Sue. lol.

Maybe we can share a husband. Tomorrow's my 20th anniversary, my guy's o.k., I've survived to the big 20 with him. Interested? LOL :blowkiss:

 

[SuziQ]

Most of this post doesn't make sense to me. I guess I'm just dense today. I know I didn't say half of what you anwered to. I stand by my post. If you had ever been a Mormon you would know what I'm talking about. Maybe you should not argue about that which you do not know?

I wasn't aware I was arguing. And you're right, I did expand on what you weren't addressing. I should have clarified more or done it in a different post.

 

[Pepper]

FDLS consider themselves the true Mormons and the LDS as not so true Mormons because they say they are not following the rules that the religion is based on. The LDS put aside some of those laws to gain Statehood.

But the FDLS also don't follow most of the laws such as Missionary work, Baptism for the dead or feeding the poor. They can't say they've been following such laws when they are hiding from the world. Then it all comes to light when someone leaves and they find the rules they had were different than LDS. It's all become perverted and twisted.

I do think these 'prophets' have a g-d complex and it's scary how much this reminds me of the Jim Jones compound in the tactics they have been using.

Well that does make sense as one of their beliefs is that a man can become a god of another planet once he dies, if he has attained all the steps it takes for him to enter the celestial kingdom at its highest level.

 

[trixie]

Your perspective is very much appreciated, trixie. I have gotten that impression from news reports, clearly the LDS does not consider the FDLS to be members still of the LDS.
Do you know whether the FDLS themselves still consider themselves to be LDS? Thanks.

Yes that's what I said. SuzieQ must have me mixed up with somebody elses post.
I have no idea about what the FDLS thinks. Believe me I am no expert on either religion, I just have had the experience of being a Mormon and thought I'd share some opinions on it.

 

[SuziQ]

Maybe we can share a husband. Tomorrow's my 20th anniversary, my guy's o.k., I've survived to the big 20 with him. Interested? LOL :blowkiss:

You would still have to do his laundry.

 

[SuziQ]

Yes that's what I said. SuzieQ must have me mixed up with somebody elses post.
I have no idea about what the FDLS thinks. Believe me I am no expert on either religion, I just have had the experience of being a Mormon and thought I'd share some opinions on it.

You are correct, I did address someone elses post in yours. I should have made it in a different post. I apologize.

ETA:Actually I didn't address my post to anyone and I should have.

 

[golfmom]

Since Utah seems to be now in control of the financial assets of FLDS, (United Effort Plan) I think that they do bare a great deal of responsibility. Although it seems that they're having as much luck with the fund management as catching a greased pig.

 

[trixie]

You are correct, I did address someone elses post in yours. I should have made it in a different post. I apologize.

No problem! I thought something weird was going on!

 

[golfmom]

You would still have to do his laundry.

Oh, you are talking about my "girls" -- my brand new beautiful extra-large front loaders. Yeah, I do the laundry.

 

[SuziQ]

:blushing:

No problem! I thought something weird was going on!

It's me. Unexpected dental surgery this morning, strong pain meds and posting probably don't mix! To start over, yes the church could do more but so can the community. And The Trib we'll have to agree to disagree on. lol. Whew, that took alot out of me.

ETA: In fact, I'm going to sheepishly sneak on over and delete that post because it no longer makes sense to me either!

 

[SuziQ]

Oh, you are talking about my "girls" -- my brand new beautiful extra-large front loaders. Yeah, I do the laundry.

You are no longer my sister, I've been wanting a pair of "girls" like that forever! lol.

 

[golfmom]

:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

There's supposed to be more than $100 MILLION dollars in the United Effort Plan which is a trust controlling the finances for FLDS.

 

[ShannonOhara]

So will these women at some point be free to go back if they want to?
Or if they want can they get help and protection and start life over, can the fathers try to get custody of the kids since some of the kids (who are moms) are so young.

Im so worried about these young girls, I wish I could do something to help.

 

[golfmom]

You are no longer my sister, I've been wanting a pair of "girls" like that forever! lol.

I know everyone will make fun of me, but that's what I wanted for our 20 year anniversary. My grandmother bought us our first washer and dryer when we got married, and I just retired them last week.

Every time someone comes over, I have to introduce them to my new girls!