Was Josh Seen Buying A LARGE Amount of Shrink Wrap?

bbm Well, the decorations didn't last long, did they?

No, they sure didn't and I hope there is a video of him taking them down that will be uploaded to YouTube or Facebook so we can see who all helped him or if he did it all himself. If I learn that one person helped him, I will be VERY, VERY disgusted.

Are we surprised by this? Not me! I'll bet he wanted to take them down the minute he arrived but due to knowing how that would look, waited until the last minute.

Isn't it interesting how JP jetted down to WVC immediately after learning the house had been decorated?
 
I am trying to find a ad for the house being rented.
Me too! Perhaps he is going to use the "word of mouth" method! Can you imagine how many people would want to set up an appointment to view the house just so they could see it because of Susan's disappearance and not because they wanted to rent it? What a mess! (No pun intended!)
 
I don't believe you will find an ad. They already have tenants. It was reported on F & F FB the new tenants helped Josh complete the work in the basement. My guess would be members of the ward or friends or family.
 
I don't believe you will find an ad. They already have tenants. It was reported on F & F FB the new tenants helped Josh complete the work in the basement. My guess would be members of the ward or friends or family.
I sure hope someone leaks a copy of the lease/rental agreement so we can read it!
 
I worry a lot about those two little boys and their mental health. What are they being told about their mama's disappearance?
 
I don't believe you will find an ad. They already have tenants. It was reported on F & F FB the new tenants helped Josh complete the work in the basement. My guess would be members of the ward or friends or family.
Guess I'm just old fashioned, but I couldn't imagine being friends or friendly to J. I worry about Susan and what happened to her too much, and I've never met her.
Good for Josh, though, that he has a circle of friends that continue to help him in so many ways. Packing, moving, finishing the basement, helping with his cash flow...I guess you either buy into the theory that Susan wouldn't have left her sweet boys voluntarily, or you don't.
I think one would have to have nerves of steel to sleep in that house, knowing the owner has keys.
 
I still get the feeling somebody knows a lot of things we can't know, and we're wasting our effort sleuthing on this one. When the drowning people are hitting you with their fists, I was taught to get out of the way.

Somebody please talk me down! :furious:
 
I worry a lot about those two little boys and their mental health. What are they being told about their mama's disappearance?
I worry about this too. I wonder what they are being told as to why they can't see their grandparents, Judy and Chuck Cox, and their aunts, uncles and cousins who live in Puyallup, people who they should be getting to know. Before the move, the reason would be, "Because they live so far away." Now what is JP telling the boys the reason is for them not being able to see these people who live within a short driving distance?

The fact JP will not allow unsupervised visits between Susan's children and Susan's parents and siblings screams that he has something to hide!
 
Guess I'm just old fashioned, but I couldn't imagine being friends or friendly to J. I worry about Susan and what happened to her too much, and I've never met her.
Good for Josh, though, that he has a circle of friends that continue to help him in so many ways. Packing, moving, finishing the basement, helping with his cash flow...I guess you either buy into the theory that Susan wouldn't have left her sweet boys voluntarily, or you don't.
I think one would have to have nerves of steel to sleep in that house, knowing the owner has keys.

Agree w bolded... n/k! You know they gotta be sleeping w one eye open...

:parrot:
 
I still get the feeling somebody knows a lot of things we can't know, and we're wasting our effort sleuthing on this one. When the drowning people are hitting you with their fists, I was taught to get out of the way.

Somebody please talk me down! :furious:

Maybe it's because I've had a really long day, but I'm not getting what you're saying. Yes, there's not much to sleuth right now, but are we really wasting our time? Surely, things will break at some point...

Who are the drowning people?:waitasec:
 
I don't believe you will find an ad. They already have tenants. It was reported on F & F FB the new tenants helped Josh complete the work in the basement. My guess would be members of the ward or friends or family.

That thought just makes me curl up my lip like Josh does - kinda sick like.:sick: They've gotta be getting one heck of a good deal.
 
The temperature of a cutting torch is about 2000 degrees hotter than a propane torch! And, when I realized that a cutting torch requires two tanks, I realized my friend wasn't using a cutting torch after all.

There is a post of mine down maybe about 12 posts or so which has links and lists the three different types of "torches", the gasses they use and so forth.

So, my friend was not using a cutting torch but a propane torch! See how confusing this all is which leads me to believe that whomever started this story that it was a cutting torch could have been confused as well because they start at $300.00 whereas the hand held torches are very inexpensive.

One would think that JP would NOT have purchased a cutting torch on Monday morning! How suspicious and stupid would that be. I honestly believe he bought a simple, hand held torch like pictured here to start a campfire to keep warm and roast marshmallows for the S'Moures.

I'm not saying I'm right but buying a cutting torch just doesn't make sense to me as doing so would have been a BIG RED FLAG on his credit card statement. Surely he realized he would be a suspect in his wife's disappearance!


What make me think it WAS a cutting torch is that he bought it at Air Gas (if this whole rumor is true, of course). There is no reason to buy a simple propane torch from Air Gas because you can buy one of those, for a small amount of cash, at any Wal*Mart, Costco, Home Depot or even at an auto parts store. Air Gas is the place to go to get the two-gas, very hot, kind of torches and supplies.

Practically ANY credit card purchase in West Valley City would look suspicious if you're supposed to be "down south" camping on Monday and not get back home until late afternoon.

Addendum: What other supplies he bought with it might tell more about what he was doing with it. For example JP can use it to weld, but then he'd have to also buy brazing rod, flux, etc.
 
Maybe it's because I've had a really long day, but I'm not getting what you're saying. Yes, there's not much to sleuth right now, but are we really wasting our time? Surely, things will break at some point...

Who are the drowning people?:waitasec:

I'm most frustrated about Josh renting the house to a neighbor. Susan's friends are drowning in grief and also helping him? What's that? Puzzling to the max. I do wonder if we're being played here because I still remember Kiirsi saying there are so many things they can't tell us or we'd understand. Yeah. Surely things will break at some point.
 
What make me think it WAS a cutting torch is that he bought it at Air Gas (if this whole rumor is true, of course). There is no reason to buy a simple propane torch from Air Gas because you can buy one of those, for a small amount of cash, at any Wal*Mart, Costco, Home Depot or even at an auto parts store. Air Gas is the place to go to get the two-gas, very hot, kind of torches and supplies.

Practically ANY credit card purchase in West Valley City would look suspicious if you're supposed to be "down south" camping on Monday and not get back home until late afternoon.

Addendum: What other supplies he bought with it might tell more about what he was doing with it. For example JP can use it to weld, but then he'd have to also buy brazing rod, flux, etc.

While I agree that most people would go to Walmart to buy a handheld propane torch, perhaps JP didn't want to go to Walmart for fear of being recognized or running into someone he knew. Why would he make such an expensive purchase if he knew there would no longer be Susan's income? Someone posted a photo of a very small, cutting torch set that costs $300.00. That is a lot of money! Of course, based on JP's bankruptcy papers, it doesn't appear he is very frugal with his spending.

He may have been so amped up from what happened that he wasn't thinking clearly and it didn't dawn on him that law enforcement would suspect him in the disappearance of his wife and may very well have purchased a cutting torch set. After all, if he left the house with Susan's body in the van, he was convinced he could hide it good enough for law enforcement not to find it.

What do these people think? It's beyond my ability to understand what JP was thinking at all! :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
That is so freaking creepy. I guess it is a win/win:waitasec:
It just goes to show that people will do anything to get a good deal! I sure hope they don't have little kids who they are forcing to live in that house. That would be so wrong! :furious:
 

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