Wayne Millard: Dellen Millard Charged With Murder In The First Degree #1

[matou]

OK I see that I also have this strange thing on my facebook but with a different date in 2014, as does a friend who died in 2013. I guess it's nothing.

 

[swedie]

I have to wonder whose money was affording all these special gifts, parties and trips DM was showering his pals and girlfriend(s) with? It's so easy to spend someone else's money without much thought. Seems WM had DM on payroll with MA, but witnessed him squandering his money and not making any attempt at earning an honest days pay.

WM paid with his life for tightening the purse strings and giving DM ultimatums shortly before his death. I assume there was a lot of conflict between father and son regarding money, DM's lack of ambition, lack of interest in the aviation business his father had just invested millions of dollars in, DM's future plans or lack there of, the pals who were squatting in WM's basement, the travelling abroad and buying friendships, WM saw the hangar being used as DM's playground. WM had realized his son was just a sponge along with his pals and WM finally had had enough...and so did DM. All JMO.

 

[Tamarind]

I have to wonder whose money was affording all these special gifts, parties and trips DM was showering his pals and girlfriend(s) with? It's so easy to spend someone else's money without much thought. Seems WM had DM on payroll with MA, but witnessed him squandering his money and not making any attempt at earning an honest days pay.

WM paid with his life for tightening the purse strings and giving DM ultimatums shortly before his death. I assume there was a lot of conflict between father and son regarding money, DM's lack of ambition, lack of interest in the aviation business his father had just invested millions of dollars in, DM's future plans or lack there of, the pals who were squatting in WM's basement, the travelling abroad and buying friendships, WM saw the hangar being used as DM's playground. WM had realized his son was just a sponge along with his pals and WM finally had had enough...and so did DM. All JMO.

I would like some proof of what you say. It looks like total fabrication to me. But then it is just an opinion. MOO

 

[swedie]

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I would like some proof of what you say. It looks like total fabrication to me. But then it is just an opinion. MOO

Seems you miss the All JMO at the very end, in which you highlighted. HTH. A whole bunch of fabricated information through these threads isn't there? JMO again.

 

[Tamarind]

Seems you miss the All JMO at the very end, in which you highlighted. HTH. A whole bunch of fabricated information through these threads isn't there? JMO again.

Well I didn't miss it if I mentioned it. Yes there is a lot of fabricated information, but I am getting used to ignoring most of it. ;-)


JMO

 

[SnooperDuper]

I have to wonder whose money was affording all these special gifts, parties and trips DM was showering his pals and girlfriend(s) with? It's so easy to spend someone else's money without much thought. Seems WM had DM on payroll with MA, but witnessed him squandering his money and not making any attempt at earning an honest days pay.

WM paid with his life for tightening the purse strings and giving DM ultimatums shortly before his death. I assume there was a lot of conflict between father and son regarding money, DM's lack of ambition, lack of interest in the aviation business his father had just invested millions of dollars in, DM's future plans or lack there of, the pals who were squatting in WM's basement, the travelling abroad and buying friendships, WM saw the hangar being used as DM's playground. WM had realized his son was just a sponge along with his pals and WM finally had had enough...and so did DM. All JMO.

When I think of DM as a drinker, staying home in his darkened house with his companion, it is easy to imagine him regularly giving the 16 year old DM cash and keys so that WM could relax in peace. It's hard to imagine WM denying his son but indulging himself.

CM seems to have been the master, leader, dynamo. CM was a self made man. WM was his cheerleader, laying out $30k for CM's obit, and otherwise an employee whose most daring action was to not cut his hair. And then he was a seal-hugger. And he drank some...not the happy drunk profile of dinner parties, restaurants and events and DUIs but a sad drunk that stayed home with his companion with the blinds drawn.

Maybe TFS was not the right place for DM because the family culture under WM was just so different from the families of the other kids.

I don't think WM was ever in a position to call DM on his behaviour.

WM laid all the groundwork in order to evaporate the family fortune through the hangar project, it seems. DM helped in a contrasting style by spending cash like a lotto winner, like he'd never seen cash before.

To me, WM seems infatuated with the M legacy, and CM, and DM became a victim of that.

 

[swedie]

Well I didn't miss it if I mentioned it. Yes there is a lot of fabricated information, but I am getting used to ignoring most of it. ;-)


JMO

Respectfully Tamarind we've been discussing all of these points/subjects for months now and numerous links have been provided regarding these points, in which you requested proof of from me. Not to mention the fact I stipulated that it was All JMO. You claim you are ignoring most of it but continuously respond to a great majority of everyones' posts, have I missed something you're trying to tell me? MOO.

Here are some links to articles where you can find the information I based All JMO, speculations and assumptions on. HTH.

http://metronews.ca/news/kitchener/688568/waterloo-region-spent-5-4m-on-millardair/

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...bosma-murder-suspect-started-to-dismantle-it/

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/tag/dellen-millard/page/2

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/05/15/tim-bosma-murder-suspect-dellen-millard-in-hamilton-court

 

[SnooperDuper]

And Oh! on the topic of 27 year old kids living with their parents...I've only known two guys that made it to that age and still lived at home. One got along with his mother fabulously, and even borrowed her hats...the other drove a car with a row of intended dents down the side from his mother's car door. At a certain point your parents don't want you (or your storage) around.

 

[Tamarind]

Respectfully Tamarind we've been discussing all of these points/subjects for months now and numerous links have been provided regarding these points, in which you requested proof of from me. Not to mention the fact I stipulated that it was All JMO. You claim you are ignoring most of it but continuously respond to a great majority of everyones' posts, have I missed something you're trying to tell me? MOO.

You seem to have missed the wink at the end of my post Swedie !

We can all post opinions - thats all they can be without facts JMO IMO

 

[swedie]

And Oh! on the topic of 27 year old kids living with their parents...I've only known two guys that made it to that age and still lived at home. One got along with his mother fabulously, and even borrowed her hats...the other drove a car with a row of intended dents down the side from his mother's car door. At a certain point your parents don't want you (or your storage) around.

Exactly! That is why I believe there was a lot of turmoil leading up to WM's murder. WM sat back for so long with his wallet open for DM's taking and enough was enough for WM. WM was engaged and to be married. Was there an influence from his fiancée to put an end to DM riding his father's coat tails? At 27 most healthy, well rounded, males are not riding on their parents coat tails, looking for hand outs, dragging their friends home to live in the parents' basements. They are self sufficient and typically live, and want to live independently, away from their parents regardless of how much they love their parents. Many males are in serious relationships, married, some with children and have careers and jobs. ALL MOO.

As far as Mr. Sharif and other executives at the company were concerned, Dellen and his red mohawk spelled trouble.

“I thought he was just a spoilt little brat who had his way all his life and didn’t appreciate what his father was doing for him,” said Mr. Sharif. “He was an impediment to the hangar operation” who didn’t meet his deadlines, almost never arrived at work before noon, and refused to clear his collection of cars, jeeps, hot rods, jet skis and personal airplanes from the business premises.

Police sources also told Toronto’s CityNews that Wayne had announced shortly before his death that he was in love and engaged to be married. While Mr. Sharif said he knew nothing about his client’s romantic life, he acknowledged he was feeling business pressures and “had heard rumblings that … Wayne was drinking again.”

All things considered, Mr. Sharif still finds it hard to believe that the client he had grown so fond of as they worked closely together would commit suicide. “[There was] unfinished business,” he said. “He had more reasons to live than to die.”

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...bosma-murder-suspect-started-to-dismantle-it/

Will AS be called as a witness during the trials? I won't be surprised. Interesting how he has received so much back lash from some for speaking out. But turn the table, if he had nothing but good things to say about DM, he would probably be classified as some type of hero. Sometimes the truth hurts. But that's JMO once again.

 

[Tamarind]

And Oh! on the topic of 27 year old kids living with their parents...I've only known two guys that made it to that age and still lived at home. One got along with his mother fabulously, and even borrowed her hats...the other drove a car with a row of intended dents down the side from his mother's car door. At a certain point your parents don't want you (or your storage) around.

I think WM was quite happy to have his son and friends around, as he was frugal he likely wasn't keen on paying for the food and drinks but he probably loved the company and the vibe. JMO

 

[matou]

On the Wednesday after TB was murdered, was it said the DM was hanging with friends?

 

[swedie]

On the Wednesday after TB was murdered, was it said the DM was hanging with friends?

According to AD's post #1154. May 8, 2013. May 8, 2013 – Dellen seen working in back yard with friends during evening – Trailer arrived at mother’s house during hockey game (game ended at 10:23) – last day neighbours saw MB

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...gd-w-Murder-Christina-Noudga-Accessory/page47

 

[MsSherlock]

Exactly! That is why I believe there was a lot of turmoil leading up to WM's murder. WM sat back for so long with his wallet open for DM's taking and enough was enough for WM. WM was engaged and to be married. Was there an influence from his fiancée to put an end to DM riding his father's coat tails? At 27 most healthy, well rounded, males are not riding on their parents coat tails, looking for hand outs, dragging their friends home to live in the parents' basements. They are self sufficient and typically live, and want to live independently, away from their parents regardless of how much they love their parents. Many males are in serious relationships, married, some with children and have careers and jobs. ALL MOO.

As far as Mr. Sharif and other executives at the company were concerned, Dellen and his red mohawk spelled trouble.

“I thought he was just a spoilt little brat who had his way all his life and didn’t appreciate what his father was doing for him,” said Mr. Sharif. “He was an impediment to the hangar operation” who didn’t meet his deadlines, almost never arrived at work before noon, and refused to clear his collection of cars, jeeps, hot rods, jet skis and personal airplanes from the business premises.

Police sources also told Toronto’s CityNews that Wayne had announced shortly before his death that he was in love and engaged to be married. While Mr. Sharif said he knew nothing about his client’s romantic life, he acknowledged he was feeling business pressures and “had heard rumblings that … Wayne was drinking again.”

All things considered, Mr. Sharif still finds it hard to believe that the client he had grown so fond of as they worked closely together would commit suicide. “[There was] unfinished business,” he said. “He had more reasons to live than to die.”

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...bosma-murder-suspect-started-to-dismantle-it/

Will AS be called as a witness during the trials? I won't be surprised. Interesting how he has received so much back lash from some for speaking out. But turn the table, if he had nothing but good things to say about DM, he would probably be classified as some type of hero. Sometimes the truth hurts. But that's JMO once again.

Wouldn't it be amazing if WM's fiance showed up!!!!!! We're close to 7 months now til trial date- times flying by! MOO

 

[Alethea Dice]

Exactly! That is why I believe there was a lot of turmoil leading up to WM's murder. WM sat back for so long with his wallet open for DM's taking and enough was enough for WM. WM was engaged and to be married. Was there an influence from his fiancée to put an end to DM riding his father's coat tails? At 27 most healthy, well rounded, males are not riding on their parents coat tails, looking for hand outs, dragging their friends home to live in the parents' basements. They are self sufficient and typically live, and want to live independently, away from their parents regardless of how much they love their parents. Many males are in serious relationships, married, some with children and have careers and jobs. ALL MOO.

As far as Mr. Sharif and other executives at the company were concerned, Dellen and his red mohawk spelled trouble.

“I thought he was just a spoilt little brat who had his way all his life and didn’t appreciate what his father was doing for him,” said Mr. Sharif. “He was an impediment to the hangar operation” who didn’t meet his deadlines, almost never arrived at work before noon, and refused to clear his collection of cars, jeeps, hot rods, jet skis and personal airplanes from the business premises.

Police sources also told Toronto’s CityNews that Wayne had announced shortly before his death that he was in love and engaged to be married. While Mr. Sharif said he knew nothing about his client’s romantic life, he acknowledged he was feeling business pressures and “had heard rumblings that … Wayne was drinking again.”

All things considered, Mr. Sharif still finds it hard to believe that the client he had grown so fond of as they worked closely together would commit suicide. “[There was] unfinished business,” he said. “He had more reasons to live than to die.”

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...bosma-murder-suspect-started-to-dismantle-it/

Will AS be called as a witness during the trials? I won't be surprised. Interesting how he has received so much back lash from some for speaking out. But turn the table, if he had nothing but good things to say about DM, he would probably be classified as some type of hero. Sometimes the truth hurts. But that's JMO once again.

That fiancee seems to have disappeared with the over 100 cars, doesn't she? The only person who seems to have heard of her was JJ. None of the dozen or more people that ABro talked to had ever heard of her. None of the Millard's she talked to had heard of her either.

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2014/06/murder-or-suicide-the-investigation-into-the-death-of-wayne-millard.html

If AS had nothing but good things to say about DM, he probably would have been mostly ignored. Just like all the others who said nice things. JMO

 

[MsSherlock]

Yes, I totally agree. MS and MWJ are not regular people. More like his suppliers.

However, the tens of thousands of dollars that was spent on birthday parties (the one with the band that ABro referred to), other parties, trips and jet skis was spent on those regular, normal people in AM's crowd. According to ABro, there was not one friend out of those regular, normal people who were not bought by DM and didn't benefit financially from being his "friend".

Maybe DM was actually their supplier? Maybe that's how they got connected in the first place. Seems like LB knew who to call when she was looking for some drugs. MOO

 

[Alethea Dice]

According to AD's post #1154. May 8, 2013. May 8, 2013 – Dellen seen working in back yard with friends during evening – Trailer arrived at mother’s house during hockey game (game ended at 10:23) – last day neighbours saw MB

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...gd-w-Murder-Christina-Noudga-Accessory/page47

Here's the link for that:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/missing-ontario-man-s-truck-believed-found-1.1317095

He lived there alone after his father died six months ago. He was last seen by neighbours Wednesday evening working outside on his house with a few other men.

Neighbours also told CBC News they were shocked by the news of Millard's arrest and described him as "a normal kid."

Had to include that second paragraph.

 

[Alethea Dice]

Maybe DM was actually their supplier? Maybe that's how they got connected in the first place. Seems like LB knew who to call when she was looking for some drugs. MOO

I suppose anything's possible. Considering which ones of the three have previously been charged with trafficking though, my money's on the other two. JMO

 

[swedie]

Here's the link for that:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/missing-ontario-man-s-truck-believed-found-1.1317095



Had to include that second paragraph.

From the second paragraph you included.
Neighbours also told CBC News they were shocked by the news of Millard's arrest and described him as "a normal kid."

Interesting how that seems to be a very popular phrase when people are accused of murder. The shock probably wore off when they start hearing more information and not necessarily rumours. Obviously these neighbours didn't know DM that well as they referred to him as a kid. Or could it be he acted like a kid that led them to use that term kid. I just may have taken offence to someone calling me a kid at 27 years of age. JMO.

 

[swedie]

That fiancee seems to have disappeared with the over 100 cars, doesn't she? The only person who seems to have heard of her was JJ. None of the dozen or more people that ABro talked to had ever heard of her. None of the Millard's she talked to had heard of her either.

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2014/06/murder-or-suicide-the-investigation-into-the-death-of-wayne-millard.html

If AS had nothing but good things to say about DM, he probably would have been mostly ignored. Just like all the others who said nice things. JMO

Could it be that fiancée left because of the turmoil between father and son? Could it be that was the lie DM told LE for his father's suicide? "Dad was so depressed because this fiancée left, she threatened to take him for half of everything, he started drinking quite heavily, talked about doing himself in". Maybe she does exists and will be a fine witness for the Crown shedding much information as to what went on in the Millard household. We'll have to wait and see. MOO.