weekend break: discuss the latest here #123

[Rocco]

Didn't JM get her to admit yesterday that she had read all of the journal entries from this time period?

Yes, he did.

 

[panthera]

Oy, the journals!

I want JM to ask ALV that question: "you don't even know when these journal entries were written, do you?"

Force her to agree that just because an entry says 'April 9, 2008', that doesn't prove it was written then.

That is exactly my point. She could have written it any time, to suit her purpose. There is nothing in the entries to authenticate whatever she says occurred on any given date. For example, our posts here now are an accounting of our time and what we are doing on a Friday evening. That can't be changed! Also, aren't there pages missing from JA's journals? How can any of it be an accurate basis for what was occurring in her life at any time?

:doh:

MOO

 

[TexMex]

IIRC, Jodi and Travis discussed his Cancun trip on the May 10 sex tape. They were trying to figure out when he'd be able to get to Yreka to visit her in between all of his upcoming travels.

I think he was telling her he was going to Argentina...but I'm not willing to subject myself to listening to that tape again to be sure!

In the Opening Juan says the same day the gun was stolen Jodi sent Travis an email at 9:25pm. It mentions that he is going to Cancun. It was the first mention of Cancun in any of their texts, iM etc. it was clear she knew he was going and going w/o her..

 

[Schuby]

I wonder if they are waiting until a conviction? They might be as to not distract from the most important thing at hand and that is getting her the Death Penalty. Let's Hope anyway. It' amazing to me that she actually thinks she is going to walk free I think, she comes across to me like that anyway. Of course I think they have her drugged up cause there is NO way that her parents could describe her behavior like it was and now she is calm as a cucumber in court. NO WAY, she is drugged up...has to be.

Of course they are. She has no assets anyway. Even her stupid art will be worthless once the media attention fades.

 

[mollyf]

Actually, it is estimated that a disproportionate percentage of corporate CEOs (about 10% vs 1-3% of general population) are psychopaths. (This is from the Stout book, "The Psychopath Next Door).

Yeah, yeah! That was an interesting book. The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout.

 

[katydid23]

She'll never be acquitted--never. Even if every single juror believes she killed him in self defense, you can only use enough force to stop an attack if you feel your life is in danger. She not only slashed his throat for ear to ear, shot him in the head and stabbed him in the heart, she threw in 9 more stab wounds to his back plus a few more stab wounds. That's never going to fly as using only enough force to stop him.

But if the DT can get one or tow jurors on their side, they might hold out for the lesser offenses. If she gets convicted of murder 2 or worse, manslaughter, she could be out in a couple of years, with time served already being so long.

 

[Schuby]

I think he was telling her he was going to Argentina...but I'm not willing to subject myself to listening to that tape again to be sure!

In the Opening Juan says the same day the gun was stolen Jodi sent Travis an email at 9:25pm. It mentions that he is going to Cancun. It was the first mention of Cancun in any of their texts, iM etc. it was clear she knew he was going and going w/o her..

He talked about Cancun in the phone sex tape.

 

[Roy Rob]

Lol, pushy, aren't we? :floorlaugh:

Oh...I wouldn't say pushy....opinionated?, not really.....maybe a touch, but this much I know..you are all very intelligent and have great insight when it comes to your posts regarding this trial.

:truce:

 

[Schuby]

Yeah, yeah! That was an interesting book. The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout.

I thought it was kind of worthless honestly.

 

[panthera]

I wonder if they are waiting until a conviction? They might be as to not distract from the most important thing at hand and that is getting her the Death Penalty. Let's Hope anyway. It' amazing to me that she actually thinks she is going to walk free I think, she comes across to me like that anyway. Of course I think they have her drugged up cause there is NO way that her parents could describe her behavior like it was and now she is calm as a cucumber in court. NO WAY, she is drugged up...has to be.

I believe there is a time-frame with which to file a wrongful death lawsuit. Not sure what the statute of limitations is for AZ, however. Just thought of it when the mention of JA possibly profiting from her artwork came up. Perhaps there is some other recourse to keep her from getting outside income while incarcerated?

MOO

 

[kscornfed]

That is exactly my point. She could have written it any time, to suit her purpose. There is nothing in the entries to authenticate whatever she says occurred on any given date. For example, our posts here now are an accounting of our time and what we are doing on a Friday evening. That can't be changed! Also, aren't there pages missing from JA's journals? How can any of it be an accurate basis for what was occurring in her life at any time?

:doh:

MOO

I'm agreeing with you. There's a lot of hay to make out of those journals. I can't wait!

I'm so looking forward to Monday.

 

[Kentucky Gal]

AS much as I would TOTALLY hope that Arias would get the Death Penalty, I just can't see all those men on that Jury going through with it. I want her to get Death, but I bet she gets Life instead which is WRONG. Can she make a profit off of that art work after she's convicted? I hope not.

Not in AZ, it has the Son of Sam legislation.:rocker:

 

[elementary]

Didn't JM get her to admit yesterday that she had read all of the journal entries from this time period?

Yes, but she also stated that she got summaries of interviews. She did not interview, nor did she get entire interviews. She only got summaries.

That's akin to Samuels' supplying the prosecution with his interpretation and not the raw data.

Which means someone decided what was summarised for her. Who knows what was left out?

 

[Mellinyce]

AS much as I would TOTALLY hope that Arias would get the Death Penalty, I just can't see all those men on that Jury going through with it. I want her to get Death, but I bet she gets Life instead which is WRONG.

Why exactly do you think the men wouldn't go through with it? Just curious as to your theory dear =)

 

[cubbeegirl]

Does anyone have a link to the pics of Ms Alyce leaving court yesterday? tyia

 

[panthera]

But if the DT can get one or tow jurors on their side, they might hold out for the lesser offenses. If she gets convicted of murder 2 or worse, manslaughter, she could be out in a couple of years, with time served already being so long.

Those jurors who are adamant to convict her of premeditated murder are NOT going to come to an agreement with others who vote for a lesser included charge. Thankfully they are not sequestered (and hopefully not during deliberations) so no one is going to feel pressured to "get out of there" either.

MOO

 

[elementary]

I was quite surprised that Jodi is as articulate as she is without much formal education, but the one thing that surprises me about her and people like her is that they really think that people will believe their outlandish lies.

My cousin was married to someone like JA and his lies were so absurd, they were laughable. Unfortunately, my cousin ended up in a nursing home at 55. I will always believe he tried to kill her with an overdose of some drug, but instead it just made her crazy. And when their own son asked the doctors at the hospital to do an extensive drug screen to see if she had been poisoned, the doctors told him that to order a toxicology report like that would involve the police department. And I think all the doctors thought we were acting paranoid and kind of brushed it off as a bunch of crazy relatives.

If she were articulate she could express her feelings, which she did not and use words fittingly, which she did not. She is glib, which means you can use words smoothly, rather like an effective sound bite.

 

[mobius99]

Yeah, yeah! That was an interesting book. The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout.

Who cares about the Sociopath Next Door? What about the sociopath living under your roof or sleeping in your bed?!!

 

[Mrs G Norris]

If Jodi didn't want to receive the awful texts from Travis why not block him and STOP COMMUNICATING WITH HIM?

And why continue to provoke him with her continuous lies slander and snooping, I could go on ...

 

[panthera]

I'm agreeing with you. There's a lot of hay to make out of those journals. I can't wait!

I'm so looking forward to Monday.

Hopefully Juan will bring up all these points. One cannot make an accurate assessment based on false information. Period!



MOO