weekend discussion: discuss the trial here #141

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Will ya'll all please stop being so interesting and insightful??

I'm missing the Masters! Don't get me wrong, I have it on, but pleeeeeease!

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Ehh....I doubt the Masters is half as interesting as this :D

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Are these the pics Juan objected to when the computer guy testified?

IMO, I do believe it is Travis. I have my reasons why but I don't think i'm allowed to post it. :blushing:

Yes, that's what I think too. Rewatching his testimony and his hands really brings that home. I'm hoping there's some kind of date stamp on that hard drive for when those pics were uploaded.
 
I sometimes wonder, too, if she threw the gun in the desert or kept it.

I've seen many speculate about Jodi making money in sex but I keep thinking drug trafficking. Yreka area is known for that and her being the "traveler" that she was it could be explained away.

I keep wondering if this could be what she may have been involved in with Matt and Daryl. And God knows she knew how to hide things in her car. The gun she purchased wasn't found until a month later after both the cops and the rental car company had gone through it. Who can do that stuff without having practiced or been trained by a pro?? MOO

I've been having trouble figuring out those two men. Drugs could be the key. I'm pretty sure JA was using something. There is no way I will be convinced that b*&* wasn't doing drugs or alcohol or both. :jail:
 
Costco water lie to clean the bloody hands lie to seem like in a fog lie to not having to explain the stabbing.

I remember her saying she had a case or two or Costco water in the trunk of the rental car. Which she used to wash herself with after she "woke up" in the desert having suffered hours of fognesia.
 
I did not see all the experts testify , did anyone examine Jodi's computer?

I do know it was damaged. She probably took a hammer to it right before she made her new fake journal. I hope one of the experts in software or computers was able to retrieve it's contents. We shall see.
 
CWEB & some other news organs said that one item with little value was taken from each room of the house in the burglary of Arias's grandfather. What burglar would find that a worthwhile theft? Another ridiculous scheme within her premeditation plot! She would say, "No, it shows he really cased the joint." It was her pathetic effort to show that the .25 auto was not the objective, just one of many toys even handedly stolen. Absurd and transparent.
 
On Friday, AVL stated that she based her opinion in part on Travis’s blog which included a description of his early childhood. She also made a statement that Travis wanted to marry a Gold Digger. I looked on his blogspot and found this entry. Following are 2 excerpts from his last blog entry.


Travis Alexanders last blogspot entry dated May 18, 2008

“Why I Want to Marry a Gold Digger”


Excerpt #1 : “I have become renowned for being Single unfortunately. Most of my peers have been married for years and have several children. In 5 years I will be the same age as my grand mother when she first achieved that title. As you can imagine from friends and family a like I am constantly getting grilled and lectured over my solitary status. I have countless scouts that out of love and concern, diligently look underneath every rock and tree for a help mate to get me hitched to. Every time I speak somewhere in my introduction the host makes sure to comment, “By the way Ladies he is Single!!!” Followed by the token pity howls, given by those that were let in the room for free. I used to like it in fact. I used to imagine myself as some dangerously handsome tycoon in “Time” magazine as one of the worlds most eligible bachelors. I had a bit of a swagger because of it, a smirk on my face and a pep in my step. Then I turned 30. As I tend to do, I did a little soul searching and realized that I was lonely. A quote from David O McKay kept haunting me. “No success can compensate for failure in the home.” I was a different type of homeless, one with just as few legitimate excuses as the other type bumming for change at a freeway off ramp. Around then I realized it was time to adjust my priorities and date with marriage in mind. Not to ask some one on a date because I planned on marrying them, but to date someone to look for the possibility of marriage with them. This type of dating to me is like a very long job interview and can be exponentially more mentally taxing. Desperately trying to find out if my date has an axe murderer penned up inside of her and knowing she is wondering the same thing about me. That’s usually when I think myself into a panic and start acting weird in consequence to trying so hard to act normal.”

****His statement about dating an axe murder is so eerie and so so sad. Was he subconsciously talking about JA?


Excerpt #2: “There is a phrase with a stigma attached I find interesting, “Gold Digger”. Now I obviously don’t like the stereotypical Gold digger. The phrase “Gold Digger” has come to mean in our society a man or a woman who marries for money, usually as an easy road to material gain with out any effort or productivity of their own. To reap what you have not sown is no better than a thief, mooch or a looter. However I couldn’t think of a better phrase to describe what I desire in an Eternal Companion. I want someone to love me for the Gold that is with in me and is willing to dig with me to extract it. I heard someone once say, “Speak to the king within the man and within the man the king will appear.”

**** It appears ALV’s definition of Gold Digger is not the same as Travis’s. Did she even read this blog. This clearly shows her lack of objectivity, shoddy work product and bias. She told the jury that he wanted to marry a Gold Digger to give a negative impression of Travis. It is obvious she only read the title and not the blog entry itself.

If anyone wants to get a sense of the real Travis, take a look at his blogspot when you have time. He is no way near the type of person the DT is trying to paint him.

Wonder if this is what made Jodi snap and is when she started making plans to kill him?
 
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Just thought of something! Maybe she wasn't worried about anyone coming in because IF she happened to be caught there she had already decided to kill anyone who showed up....

Ninjas and multiple weapons and all...

She just didn't happen to need to.

Possible but I'm sure she would do everything she can to avoid. This is why only one bullet, no extra noise but wanted to look like two attackers.
 
I honestly believe it. I don't think she was in panic mode at all. I think she was calm and she thought meticulous! She even packed up the KY! Strip bed get rid of DNA, dilute hallway blood, shower and remove any DNA trace of herself from Travis's body... Two birds one stone if she's in the shower at the same time, remove prints from staircase banister, delete photos.. She believed they were deleted for good. She tossed camera in washer to remove her blood from it... Lock his bedroom door when exiting suite...Barricade the dog, .cells phone remains off until she makes her stupid call to a dead man and leaves a message....

Well thought out, zero fog


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Jodi IS a monster out of a horror movie, too bad she didn't end up dead like the ones in movies usually do.

I just can't get the visual out of my head of the scene you just described...I'm sure it played out just like you wrote and it's just so shocking to think what happened.
 
Costco water lie to clean the bloody hands lie to seem like in a fog lie to not having to explain the stabbing.

Yeah...she doesn't want to admit to showering and leaving TA's all cleaned up. That wouldn't be good to say since she was in that damn fog :wink:
 
I remember her saying she had a case or two or Costco water in the trunk of the rental car. Which she used to wash herself with after she "woke up" in the desert having suffered hours of fognesia.

You remember correctly - all imagination
 
In a nutshell, Jodi performed a ritualistic human sacrifice on Travis. moo

BBM~ I believe the ME testified that the gunshot was not likely at close range due to lack of stippling on his face.

The shrinks said it is very telling that are no stab wounds to the genitalia on Travis. But, "dildo with a heartbeat" ..deep chest wounds/ turned his back to his mother so it wouldn't hurt as much and he did....9 frenzied cluster stabs/plus to the back of the head...told the story of having a gun to the temple and fearing for his life....shot close enough to the temple. Slit throat ...a spin on old Mormon blood atonement ala Jodi psycho style.

I still think Jodi took 2 showers that day. She might have even "baptized" Travis into "eternity" with her. She used the word enough in court.
jmho, trying to think like a psycho would, comes from reading too many psycho true crimes books.
All the criminologists said Jodi is the one in control and power with the sex thing.
 
I do know it was damaged. She probably took a hammer to it right before she made her new fake journal. I hope one of the experts in software or computers was able to retrieve it's contents. We shall see.

Thank You! I hope they find something as well.
 
I don't think JA did any kind of ritualistic stuff. I think she was just an angry angry bit^^ that killed Travis because he had the audacity to screw up her life plans with him.
 
On the morning of June 3, after visiting with DB, JA makes two deposits into her Washington Mutual accounts. By all accounts, JA is known to have been 'strapped for cash'.... I've read some speculate here that JA may have stolen a ring from TA.

What's the likelihood that she indeed had stolen the ring, and then sold it to DB and the money was actually proceeds from this?

This would be a good reason why DB would want to stay in her 'good graces' and continue to be her ally....because she had him on receiving stolen property.
 
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