weekend discussion: discuss the trial here #141

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The agenda for tomorrow:

1. Motion for mistrial= denied.

I'm still curious as to why JSS asked the jurors to have their cell phones nearby...

Because they have hearings starting at 9:30am, in case the schedule changes she wants to make sure they are able to get a hold of the jurors.
 
Originally Posted by molly333
Of course I know what the definition of battery is. So
does ALV. It seems that people do not yet understand
psychological abuse. It makes me sad because the
ground breaking work on this, as perhaps the most
devastating aspect of abuse, was done 20 and 30 years
ago by people like Lenore Walker, Patricia Evans, and
Judith Herman and others.
You can be battered psychologically ALV said--that's
one step above abuse and one step below terrorism on
her continuum.
It changes your brain chemistry, among other things.
That is what PTSD is all about.
ALV said that there is a lot of new work being done on
psychological abuse now and a lot of books in the
works.
No matter what you think about this case, I hope that
every woman learns about these things because it truly
can destroy your life and the lives of your children.
IMO
Imo what's sad is the significant and drastic set back that Alyce LaViolette, ALONE AND BY HERSELF HAS SINGLEHANDEDLY brought about over the course of these last 2 weeks as a result of her proven extremely bias opinion she's spewed, her pathetic and embarrassing way in which she told blatant and obvious lies on the witness stand, under oath, and her immature, childish, disrespectful behavior of which she openly displayed in court, on the witness stand, under oath, and during cross exam by the Prosecutor, Juan Martinez.

She's a disgrace to not only women, but she's a disgrace to the entire DV advocacy that so many people have worked their asses off(people=BOTH women&MEN) in making forward movement and awareness... IMO Miss LaViolette has managed to do much more harm in these last 2 weeks than any of the good she's done over the last 30 years!

IMO what the above post fails to mention is the fact that men are not only NOT always the abusers, but more importantly and significantly men CAN AND ARE THE ACTUAL VICTIMS of abuse at the hands of WOMEN SUCH AS JODI ARIAS!!

Imo this PROVEN FACT CANNOT BE STRESSED AND/OR REPEATED ENOUGH, IMO..AS ITS ALL TOO OFTEN THAT THIS RIDICULOUS, INACCURATE, BULL$HIT NOTION OF THOSE LIKE ALV WHO SPREAD LIES THAT WOMEN ARE THE WEAK, PITIFUL VICTIMS TO THE BIG BAD, MEAN OL' MEN IS FRIGGIN DOWNRIGHT ANGERING WHEN WE KNOW ITS BS!!!!

WE KNOW ITS BS DUE TO THE FACT WE'VE ATROCIOUS, VENOMOUS AND ABUSIVE WOMEN JUST LIKE JODI ARIAS THAT ARE FULLY CAPABLE AND VERY MUCH DO ABUSE THE $HIT OUT OF MEN..EMOTIONALLY, MENTALLY, VERBALLY, AND YES!! EVEN PHYSICALLY ABUSE MEN AND SLAUGHTER MEN JUST LIKE JODI SLAUGHTERED TRAVIS!!!..

Wake up world!! Women are not born weaklings who inevitably fall prey to predatory males... Fact is so, too is it that MEN fall prey to PREDATORY WOMEN LIKE ARIAS!
 
No, but she stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

Ha Ha! I had another thought but... I don't want a time out!

Wonder what is coming up with her having to return???
 
ALV is not a psychologist though is she?

Nope. Got her Masters, and that took ten years. She is a psychotherapist. professional keynote speaker (sometimes, sometimes not) and family counselor who hasn't been able to move past the mindset of first days of liberal feminist movement, and her made up continuum which been shown as every changing smoke and mirrors.

I can't imagine the number of lives she's damaged. How many men she's slandered, tore their children lives apart. She with such open disdain and dislike of men when they challenge her. There would be no winning in these cases, she'd be the expert and her word was gold, and she was paid for all that damage, and if the men lost his case because of her he'd be paying for those words.

This didn't have to happen. She brought this upon her own self. She should of demand to see all and not just the cherry picked things in this case. She didn't and was more than willing to add to her retirement funds by giving up her integrity and credibility and showed that she'd lie not only on her CV, but in open court under oath.
 
Jodi tweeting about her "art" website?

Is that even allowed?

How can someone who is trial for their life, sell their artwork?

Modern day John Wayne Gacy?
 
I really hadn't given it that much thought before, but what a great line to get in the door, "Don't be mad, I came to give you this payment."

Especially when he was planning on going on vacation in a few days. I honestly could see him opening the door to her if she used that ruse to get into his house. Then she proceeds to tell him whatever he wants to hear in order to stay there several hours, seduces him into the sex, and the rest is history.

MOO
 
According to her c.v, she’s a Licensed Marriage, Family, Child Counselor A/K/A a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT.) LMFTs are licensed by the California State Board of Behavioral Sciences (BBS) in Sacramento and licensure can be confirmed via their public website. When I search the BBS site, I could not find verification of any current LMFT license. All I could find was that outdated canceled Psychological Assistant license.

Was that 20 page thing her CV or her autobiography!
 
This is ALV's California license issued by:

Board of Behavioral Sciences
Sacramento, CA 95834
Main Line Phone Number: (916) 574-7830

Licensee Information
Licensee Name:
LAVIOLETTE ALYCE DUNN
License Type:
MARRIAGE AND FAMILY THERAPIST
License Number:
29119
License Status:
CLEAR
Expiration Date:
May 31, 2013
Issue Date:
February 13, 1992
Address:
6621 E PACIFIC COAST HWY #220
LONG BEACH, CA 90803
County:
LOS ANGELES
Actions:
No

http://www2.dca.ca.gov/
 
Great post.
It keeps sticking in my mind that JA really does lack a soul. What she's doing is totally opposite of what occurred back in 1949 and 1950....a friend of my Mom's was murdered, choked and then hit with a lug wrench after accepting a ride from a young man she knew from the college campus where she worked. She was missing for a short while. Her body was discovered under an excavation at a summer cottage several miles from the college. The young student who killed her then confessed to the murder. He even showed where he had thrown her purse, and an umbrella into a local creek. What he refused to do, however, was state what happened in his car that led to her murder. She was a good girl, and we all surmise he made a wicked pass at her. His family dynamic was crackers, he was failing out of college but pretending to be passing, to his folks. He lost it and killed her. His attorney was a local legend and told the family that the only thing he could even try to do was avoid the death penalty. Even though the killer had confessed, the trial had to prove it. No matter what anyone did, the killer would only say that he 'killed her on impulse'. We all know better. But rather than shame his family any further, he took the details to his grave. It was bad enough he murdered that young girl, but he spared his family even more titillating shame.
I will never support what he did to her, but after seeing what JA has done to shame her family, to shame Travis, I actually had to give that other killer a tiny tip of my hat. She is soulless. And has no morals. Or shame.
I cannot imagine not just pleading guilty and taking my lumps, even if it's death. Rather than have all those sordid disgusting details come out and shame my family.


Wow, Sorry you went through this. It's amazing how many stories we all have, and experiences we know and share. I am always impressed with a sleuthers, you included. He spared the family. Usually most do when they know their number is up. For some reason I am reminded of Susan Smith - who ended up sparing her family and confessed, errr or she spared the ones still living.

Here is the thing that really gets me, I know so many friends who have been sexually abused, lived DV - real DV, or have had hard experiences with their significant other. They ALL are over board sensitive to anyone being hurt - that is the reaction of those who are abused or the majority. They would hurt themselves before hurting another. The first to weep, or come to the defense of anyone being hurt. This is not JA in anyway shape or form.

JA - will never be re deemed, helped, or "fixed". She is soulless, and there is no cure for that.
 
Jodi tweeting about her "art" website?

Is that even allowed?

How can someone who is trial for their life, sell their artwork?

Modern day John Wayne Gacy?

She's not yet convicted.
 
I think I know what JA Does in her Notebook every day.

Plays HANGMAN

:floorlaugh:

com.virtuesoft.android.hangman_featured_small.png
Day after Day

So far she has d_ _ th p _ n _ lty
 
Go SmoothOperator, couldn't agree more .. that and the damage she did to genuinely battered women by enforcing the old stereotype so often used against those who would support the argument of a DV victim in court. I think she'll be ignored, I really do, society has moved forward ahead of the likes of ALV, she's a dinosaur on the way to retirement, and rightly so. Her inability to move her thinking with the times has made her redundant, I am glad this was exposed at this trial to minimise her ability to continue. She will no longer be an advocate for false accusers that is for sure, she's too obvious now.

Funny how this case has shone a light on things that really need to be seen isn't it. I'm not religious, but I can see Travis' spirit in so many things that have been going on. If I did believe, I'd say he was very active and still has a lot to say.
 
according to her c.v, she’s a licensed marriage, family, child counselor a/k/a a licensed marriage and family therapist (lmft.) lmfts are licensed by the california state board of behavioral sciences (bbs) in sacramento and licensure can be confirmed via their public website. When i search the bbs site, i could not find verification of any current lmft license. All i could find was that outdated canceled psychological assistant license.


wowie!
 
Could I ask for a link to the clever guy on youtube who uses different accents?

Thanks for any help.
 
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