weekend discussion: discuss the trial here #155

[nerdy]

IIRC, the poster stated that they found the gun a year ago, and was just now turning over to LE.

Who the heck finds a gun wrapped in toilet paper in the desert, after chasing a $20 bill, and doesn't think "huh, I should immediately turn this in to police, finding a gun wrapped in toilet paper is surely a normal thing and not suspicious at all!".

The idea that toilet paper would still be there after 4 years is a big enough clue this is a put-on. Desert or not, wispy little toilet paper isn't going to hold up to all that exposure.

 

[katiecoolady]

Did you guys see that WildAboutTrial just broke his ankle? What horrible timing! Being at the trial involves a LOT of walking.

 

[Sleuth5]

How about the Papal Inquisition, Spanish Inquisition, etc. Witchcraft accusations and heresy denouncements had crossover to behavior based diagnoses. Accounts suggest psychological conditions would be classified as heresy and witchcraft. Covered a wide range of behaviors.

So I would say yes, although individual Offices of the Inquisition may have kept there own lists or descriptions and not have distributed them to other offices.

You may be qualified, but not uniquely so. You may reference:

Philip Daileader, chairman dept. of History at The College of William and Mary in Virginia. He received his B.A. (1990) in history from Johns Hopkins University and earned his M.A. (1991) and Ph.D. (1996) in history from Harvard University. Four time winner: "Harvard University Certificate of Distinction in Teaching".

Easy get here is TTC the Great Courses video (or audio) lecture series by above author: "The Late Middle Ages" Lectures 13 & 21.

I'm going to assume you mean this in a friendly, helpful manner. I am familiar with Prof. Daileader's work. The subject is far too broad to discuss in this particular venue and my answer was intended only as a light informational post. I do not, of course, consider myself the only medievalist on the planet, having many colleagues with whom I share my interests.

 

[katiecoolady]

How about the Papal Inquisition, Spanish Inquisition, etc. Witchcraft accusations and heresy denouncements had crossover to behavior based diagnoses. Accounts suggest psychological conditions would be classified as heresy and witchcraft. Covered a wide range of behaviors.

So I would say yes, although individual Offices of the Inquisition may have kept their own lists or descriptions and not have distributed them to other offices.

You may be qualified, but not uniquely so. You may reference:

Philip Daileader, chairman dept. of History at The College of William and Mary in Virginia. He received his B.A. (1990) in history from Johns Hopkins University and earned his M.A. (1991) and Ph.D. (1996) in history from Harvard University. Four time winner: "Harvard University Certificate of Distinction in Teaching".

Easy get here is TTC the Great Courses video (or audio) lecture series by above author: "The Late Middle Ages" Lectures 13 & 21.

Could I get the subtitles for this post? Tia.

 

[gngr~snap]

that's called autoeroticism ...spelled wrong I'm sure.

Autoerotic Asphyxiation---there I fixed it.

I'd never play a game where I could come and go at the same time!
:floorlaugh:

 

[katiecoolady]

I'm going to assume you mean this in a friendly, helpful manner. I am familiar with Prof. Daileader's work. The subject is far too broad to discuss in this particular venue and my answer was intended only as a light informational post. I do not, of course, consider myself the only medievalist on the planet, having many colleagues with whom I share my interests.

I have an aversion to those turkey legs (you know the ones). That's about all I got on this topic.

 

[Sleuth5]

I have an aversion to those turkey legs (you know the ones). That's about all I got on this topic.

:floorlaugh:

 

[Mellinyce]

I respectfully have to disagree that if JA had killed before it would have been discovered long ago. The slime who murdered our loved one had commited a murder 12 or so yrs before he killed her and was never caught. He was only caught after he was already in prison serving time for her murder. I have never posted a link on here before so I hope I get it right....

http://www.wafb.com/global/story.asp?s=12052638

I am so sorry for your loss cubbeegirl. I am glad he is now behind bars. Has he confessed as your loved one's mom wished for?

 

[Martin L]

I was watching a tv show last night about the jail ,,ja will not last long with the women they have there,,some did crimes that make ja look like she jaywalked,,remember the guard that was with nancy g when she toured the jail,,they have a woman in there that scares her

 

[InALandFarFarAway]

So you don't think she would have killed again if she had not been caught? What do you think she was gonna do with knives and a gun she was caught with that day? Just curious to know what you think =D

Do you think she would have gone after whoever busted her to Travis regarding whatever the big secret was that Travis discovered?

I also want to know what's in the last photo that was never shown.

 

[Dmacky]

bring gas cans! You never know, there may not be many gas stations along the way.

And don't forget Paw Paw's gun :giggle: Ohh and it's always wise to take a spare license plate along. That's what EVERYBODY does on road trips !!

 

[josie1986]

I respectfully have to disagree that if JA had killed before it would have been discovered long ago. The slime who murdered our loved one had commited a murder 12 or so yrs before he killed her and was never caught. He was only caught after he was already in prison serving time for her murder. I have never posted a link on here before so I hope I get it right....

http://www.wafb.com/global/story.asp?s=12052638

i am so sorry for your loss :hug:

 

[gngr~snap]

Happy Sunday to everyone!

Just getting caught up on the rest of the trial from Thursday.

I was very surprised, as I am sure many were, about the job of caretaker that the throat slasher apparently had at one point.

It was quite revealing as Wilmott started the grilling about her past jobs, and when Dr. DeMarte mentioned the caretaker job, it threw Wilmott into a spin.

Wilmott began to fluster, (she has a terrible poker face BTW), stuttering, and was surprised (in my opinion).

After hearing the caretaker info, her line of questioning abruptly stopped, and she quickly changed the subject.

It makes me wonder if (my opinion only) this is the child that the throat slasher apparently befriended and was the Spiderman fan, and it was the throat slasher that may have bought some Spidey underwear?

Maybe?

Anyway, I thought this was VERY intriguing information.

Travis was the little boy in the picture wear spidey underoos. He must love himself like Jodi does.
-didn't happen!

 

[josie1986]

And don't forget Paw Paw's gun :giggle: Ohh and it's always wise to take a spare license plate along. That's what EVERYBODY does on road trips !!

also,remember and turn your cell phone off thats a must :seeya:

 

[Mellinyce]

morning y'all from the Lone Star State

Bob Wills - Lone Star Rag - YouTube

I have something Jodi will never have, and that's to be free to do what I want, when I want, and where I want. I can cook or do Chinese, or go out for dinner and choose what I want to eat, and get seconds if I want. Jodi will never have these things, or be able to chose where she lives

I don't have to ask or wait to wash my hair, and I can take a nice long soak in bubble bath, slip into something nice and crawl into bed on fresh clean sheets in a nice sized bed. I can sleep as long as I want to and chose what I want to wear when I get up. Jodi will never have these freedom again.

Buenas Tardes! (Good Afternoon!):seeya:

 

[polleypockets]

Did you guys see that WildAboutTrial just broke his ankle? What horrible timing! Being at the trial involves a LOT of walking.

WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 5m

Not letting a broken ankle stop me from live tweeting from the courtroom. hWild wont let that happen. #JodiArias

 

[katydid23]

So it's true?

That story sounds like a hoax, imo.

 

[gauntlet]

WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 37s

I built an auto eject 'jection seat like Willmott has installed and it launched me so high I landed on my right ankle and rolled it over.

 

[Madeleine74]

I have been hearing about a lot of murderers who have done awful things and gotten life in prison. I would like some insight as to whether people think Jodi will actually get the death penalty? I have an awful feeling that the jury will have in their minds that this was her only killing and she doesn't seem likie the "professional" type-killer, and so give her life in prison instead of death? What are your thoughts on this?

It's always a subjective thing for juries since they are given the choice to decide once they've convicted someone of the charge of first degree murder. The jury will hear mitigating versus aggravating evidence. In JA's case there is 1 aggravating factor (cruel/heinous). She has no prior convictions, the victim wasn't a child, and several other factors don't exist (there's a long list of aggravating factors the state can use in DP murder cases). As for mitigating I'm sure her team will come up with a bunch of stuff for that--that she's been in prison for 5 yrs and not harmed anyone, has been a good "citizen" of the prison, blah, blah, blah.

No idea what this (or any) jury will do --it's always a mystery because it's 12 random people making the decision based on their opinions and their deliberations together as a group. I could see it going either way. In any case I don't think she'll ever be a free woman, which is the most important thing.

 

[katiecoolady]

WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 5m

Not letting a broken ankle stop me from live tweeting from the courtroom. hWild wont let that happen. #JodiArias

ALright...what a trooper. I'll get a pic of the crutches for you all. The Wild Crutches...maybe Juan Martinez will sign them!