weekend discussion: discuss the trial here #155

[Southern_Meadow]

Exactly. If she was taking the camera with her, why delete the photos in the first place?

Quoting myself to add:

Moreover, why delete the photos taken that day, but leave the photos Travis had already taken prior to her arrival that day?

 

[Spellbound]

My Hippo (big man on) Campus and I invite you to join the discussion on Tricia's radio show in 20 min here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/04/22/tricias-true-crime-radio-sunday-night-8-pm-eastern

thanks! I would have geen latewitout thereminder. Hope the b'day celeb was great!

 

[kaRN]

Not sure if I missed a reply but can anyone tell me if there is court tomorrow??

Not until Tuesday at 09:30h.

 

[kscornfed]

When I see JA's hands, I see murderer, and I see ugly. Seeing as how you haven't killed anyone that we know of - I think your hand (AND what I saw of them) are very beautiful.

I'm a hands kind of gal, and when I see arthritic, gnarled, liver spotted and veiny hands - I see a life that is well lived. Beauty is in what you've done, not how you look!

Rock on with your experiences hands, that have rocked babies, paid bills, cooked food and cared for others. I'll take that over Arias' hands ANY day!!!!!

That's so funny because I love hands too. Especially women's hands. My mother was ashamed of her hands. Her fingers weren't as long as she wanted, she'd bitten her nails as a child and her nails weren't that pretty. She was a child of the depression and had worked like a dog with those hands, and later as a nurse and a mother and homemaker. I loved her hands. And they were so cool on my forehead when I was a kid and was sick.

I looked down a few years ago and realized I have her hands. Maybe I had to get old to see it, but these are HER hands. So, yes, hands are wonderful and they all tell a story.

Bill withers even wrote a song called 'gramma's hands', celebrating that. Just felt like sharing!

 

[DebinGA]

OK, I gotta ask ...did you believe the eye guy? I didn't.

I think he believed what he claimed to see, but there's no way 12 jurors wouldn't have seen 12 different things. He seemed very qualified to examine two sets of fingernails/hands using his super-duper machine and ID exactly whose they were.

 

[ElleElle]

Jumping off your post.

As a woman, if I tried back door sex once and didn't like it; I would not continue to do it with future partners.

Jodi's post-baptism story is a bunch of crock as far as i'm concerned.

It's ignorant for anyone to say "no women enjoy anal sex".

For the women who don't like anal sex, you speak for yourself. You do not speak for other women. Women are not BORG.

With that said, Jodi liked anal.

 

[nerdy]

Love your nic, but gotta say...stop picking on my Nancy :floorlaugh:.

I never heard about GPS in a camera before. Is this possible?

GPS-enabled cameras exist, they input the geolocation into the EXIF data like a smartphone does.

The camera TA had (Sony Cybershot DSC-H9) does not appear to have that function. This review page says it's compatible with an external GPS device to get that information: http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/SonyH9/design.shtml

 

[josie1986]

tricias show has just started,and katie is tonights only guest so lots of time to chat! tune in @

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websle...as-true-crime-radio-sunday-night-8-pm-eastern

 

[Arabian Girl]

JA under normal circumstances has a brain hampered by a personality disorder. They miss very
obvious things. They do dumb stuff. They simply dont think like a normal person.
While her dna prints may have been around the house BLOODY prints are a whole other animal.
I cant get past the horror she inflicted on TA. She did it alone remember her paranoia was elevated scale. She isnt a team player. As far as the camera who knows certainly not her
Its possible subconsciously she wanted to be caught and punished. I think part of her calm upon
arrest was relief. She knew she wasnt getting out in spite of her claims.
the pic of all the inmates she fits right in was my first thought. This case has me way over the daily quota of york peppermint patties.

You may want to notice the difference between "They" and "Jodi"..."They" may be more "Normal" than you think.

My leaving it at that has nothing to do with being "Dumb".

:facepalm:

 

[cubbeegirl]

ok, i gotta ask ...did you believe the eye guy? I didn't.

hell to the no !!!

 

[Tulessa]

Implant?

Perhaps you could borrow one of Jodi's.

I don't know how much she's using them these days...

No thanks!! I'm having lens implanted behind my cornea so I can do away with my eye wear. I don't want any thing of hers! We had several of Jeffery Dahmers signatures, from the Ambrosia Choc factory. When he hit the news we went through all of our paperwork and burned them. I never met him but the other workers there warned hubby that he was weird. Hubby met him though.

 

[chijojo]

Thanks for that!!!!





I once loved that show. :frown:

I've never watched that show. I don't get it?!

 

[indycornstalk]

snipped for space.

I am on board with you and totally agree with your theories.

I do believe the gun shot came first. I also believe like you, she went to Mesa with an ultimatum.

I too don't understand how a 5'6" 125lb woman was able to control a 5'9" 200lb man who also, worked out! This is where I consider she might've had help at this juncture. Just not sure and I know it's not a popular theory but it's certainly possible.

We also have to acknowledge, we don't know everything. Some areas are being kept quiet so perhaps the State feels she had help too? Again, we really don't know what they know or at minimum, theorize.

I can't help but think Darryl, Matt and Gus know more than what was told. Here again, they might be in Juan's back pocket to seal-the-deal, in rebuttal?

Does anyone know whether the interrogation tapes of Matt McCartney/Flores were made public? Will they ever be or is that confidential?

I have a feeling, Juan-the-man might pull out the nail-in-the-coffin witness rebuttal with Matt. I keep reading that for immunity, he admitted to forging those pedophile letters that Arias want's us to believe were authored by Travis which was the lamest most far-fetched story she could've drummed up.

I think everything she accused Travis of....she herself was guilty of. Right down to taking it in her back-door!!! I think she pretended or even perhaps actually LIKED it but turned it all around. As long as she was offering that option, Travis probably felt it wasn't going too much against his Mormon beliefs and that was...vaginal sex. Who knows.

I think she played the innocent school girl (lollipops, pigtails and Brazilian wax) while engaging in sex with Travis. Hence the pedophile notion!

There's so much more that it literally exhausts me to think/type it all out.

I concur 100%. The ONE thing that is driving me nuts is where Arias could have disposed of the weapons and clothing. It had to be somewhere she has been before or heard about. IMO she had this entire thing planned out so the dump spot was already planned. I am going back though to see if there is anyplace mentioned. Thanks for your response!

 

[bobloblaw]

Well, until I see something definitive on the handgun, I'm going to assume it's still with the rope and her bloody murder clothes at the bottom of either the desert burn pile or Lake Mead.

I don't believe there was a rope...

 

[sharpar]

Eventually the answers to the why did she _____________ boils down to because she is disordered
it permeates everything she says does thinks. Eventually you just back away slowly and let the wingnut whirl.

 

[NancyGracesBangs]

The nic is entirely flattery based Love me Nancy (Jane not so much)

The bottom line is what a majority of people have said; you can have a plan and think you know how it's going to pan out but that doesn't mean it will.

Planning can still manifest into mistakes. I think JA panicked and cleaned up best she could and figured there was no way that camera would survive the wash cycle. She was throwing the other items in the wash anyway :shrug

I was re-watching some ALV testimony and it is even worse the second time around, I actually stomached Dr. Doorknob better and I never thought I would say that

In fact, forget I did

 

[Tulessa]

O/T A baby of mine!

 

[travelgal]

Hey, I am of the group who thinks she might have had help in killing and/or cleaning and the get away. So.......my mind hasn't been satisfied based on what's been presented as to HOW that day played out or what was on her mind afterward.

BBM

I am so intrigued by everyone's suggestions and theories here. However, I believe in my soul that if JA had help or an accomplice, she would have turned on them in a NY minute when she was arrested. She is so self-centered and narcissistic = look at the character assassination she has cooked up regarding Travis. She cares for no one but herself and now she is pulling every dirty trick to save her rotten life. She is a bad seed and needs to be dealt with in the harshest measures possible.

 

[Nancy_Drew]

Sorry if this was brought up re: why leave the camera when she went and took other things. Does anyone know if that camera had a GPS on it? If she does have familiarity with cameras and for all intent and purpose she does (more than the average person by the information I know with this case) I wonder if she was concerned that with GPS on the camera, then it could be tracked. So, she did the next best thing, deleted the photos, threw it in the washing machine to destroy it. I think TA was excited by his new camera; maybe he told her (or she got to see that day) all the nifty features it had...

If that type of camera doesn't have GPS then forget that theory

Here is info on GPS in cameras... I don't remember what model TA's was...

Geotagged photograph - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, there is embedded info in digital photos, called EXIF, that shows how a photo was taken, the settings on the camera, if zoom was used, flash, etc..

I was interested in this b/c I wanted to know exactly where JA was when she took some of the pictures of TA in the shower... Like, if maybe she was hiding in the closet in the beginning for some of the photos...

You can read about EXIF info on this site...

http://www.steves-digicams.com/knowledge-center/understanding-embedded-image-info.html

 

[sharpar]

You may want to notice the difference between "They" and "Jodi"..."They" may be more "Normal" than you think.

My leaving it at that has nothing to do with being "Dumb".

:facepalm:

They are the smug entitled criminals who think they are justified murdering someone.
:truce soooooo not normal.

I dont mean posters....