Were the lights on in the basement?

[JMO8778]

I wonder if JR broke the window that morning when he went to the basement alone.it wasn't reported to be broken when police arrived,was it? at least it was written there were no obvious points of entry.
I suspect either Patsy, John or both,were in a hurry to hide the body at the moment,and so sliding the paint cans was just easier and something they didn't think about or think would be overheard at the time.seems they were more concerned about the lights being on,as they wanted to appear to be asleep.

 

[Chrishope]

I wonder if JR broke the window that morning when he went to the basement alone.it wasn't reported to be broken when police arrived,was it? at least it was written there were no obvious points of entry.
I suspect either Patsy, John or both,were in a hurry to hide the body at the moment,and so sliding the paint cans was just easier and something they didn't think about or think would be overheard at the time.seems they were more concerned about the lights being on,as they wanted to appear to be asleep.

I've wondered the same thing. Sure would be risky to break glass while the police are upstairs. Of course we don't know what exactly is meant by "no obvious points of entry". Does that mean no broke window (which is what it would mean to me, or does it mean no disturbance of the dirt and debri on the sill, grate in place, spideweb intact, though the window is broken?

I hate to beat up on the DPD, but one can't help but feel that had this happened in Chicago or NYC or even Atlanta that there would have been a much more organized and professional police response - and better reports to read.

Yeah, if it was JR/PR, then they may have slid the cans, not thinking it could be heard outside the house.

 

[coloradokares]

I've wondered the same thing. Sure would be risky to break glass while the police are upstairs. Of course we don't know what exactly is meant by "no obvious points of entry". Does that mean no broke window (which is what it would mean to me, or does it mean no disturbance of the dirt and debri on the sill, grate in place, spideweb intact, though the window is broken?

I hate to beat up on the DPD, but one can't help but feel that had this happened in Chicago or NYC or even Atlanta that there would have been a much more organized and professional police response - and better reports to read.

Yeah, if it was JR/PR, then they may have slid the cans, not thinking it could be heard outside the house.

Dont you mean the BPD This was not under the auspices of Denver. Had it been we would have nothing to discuss all these years. The hammer would have gone down a very long time ago. Only in Boulder could this have happened.

 

[Chrishope]

Dont you mean the BPD This was not under the auspices of Denver. Had it been we would have nothing to discuss all these years. The hammer would have gone down a very long time ago. Only in Boulder could this have happened.

Yes, I meant Boulder. Don't know why I said DPD. Maybe they should have taken DPD up on the offer of help.

 

[Toltec]

You are correct Chrishope...the scream would have led to the "intruder" bolting. If JonBenet had the chance to scream, than why would an intruder not take precautions...like duct tape her mouth first?

1. Enter JonBenet's bedroom.

2. Duct tape her mouth.

3. Tie her up.

4. Leave the home.

About the "strange light"....the next door neighbor tells police he saw suspicious lights around midnight. His reasoning was that someone was walking around with a flashlight, as not to wake anyone.

The neighbor to the south reported that she found it odd that the lamp in the sunroom was off...something she has never seen before. The lamp post outside was off.

Strange lights, screams, metal hitting concrete....

 

[JMO8778]

also if it were a REAL intruder,that duct tape would have went all the way around her head,or at least a good gag would have.bound and gag her,get her out as quickly and effiecently as possible.that's how criminals work,they don't hang around.they have a plan,they set it in motion and they carry it out as fast as possible.no goofing off.
the duct tape used was said to be only about 3/4 in. wide;it wouldn't have kept her quiet at all,if she'd been conscious.

 

[BBB167893]

also if it were a REAL intruder,that duct tape would have went all the way around her head,or at least a good gag would have.bound and gag her,get her out as quickly and effiecently as possible.that's how criminals work,they don't hang around.they have a plan,they set it in motion and they carry it out as fast as possible.no goofing off.
the duct tape used was said to be only about 3/4 in. wide;it wouldn't have kept her quiet at all,if she'd been conscious.

That's what I've said for years. And will say again (Hee hee!)

 

[DeeDee249]

Are you sure about the width of that duct tape? 3/4 " wide sounds more like electrical tape; in one of the pictures of the white blanket you can see the piece of duct tape on the blanket and it looks like the standard width (about 3-4 inches) I'll try to find it.

Try here: http://www.acandyrose.com/149blanket.jpg

 

[Mysterylover]

I think you're right on the mark about the grate, an intruder wouldn't be coming in or out just after the scream - we know he didn't leave at that point because of the garroting. Why would an intruder wait to see if anyone in the house heard the scream? Wouldn't he likely just leave at that point? Possibly moving the grate was a deliberate sound effect, created so whoever heard the scream would also hear the "grate" ? We know from photographic evidence that no one slid their butt accross that sill that night.

It's always bothered me that when re-enacted the scream was heard clearly at the neighbor's house, but also upstairs in the master bedroom.

Of course JR/PR could be sound sleepers, just like Mr. Stanton.

It also bothers me that no one heard breaking glass, yet we have some evidence (housekeeper- can't recall her name at the moment) that the window had not been broken in August as JR claims.

I have doubts about the paint can theory. They will make noise if scrapped on concrete, but why would an intruder want to make that much noise? -especially after a scream. Just as easy to pick them up by the handles and move them.....

Speaking of theories, this site has many different theories and topics to compare.....imo

http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3561