WFTV Exclusive: Plea deal next Monday on Check Fraud Charges

[QB.]

"Casey Defense May Bypass Prosecutors On Plea Deal"
reported by WFTV

http://www.wftv.com/news/22286349/detail.html

video of analysis with BSheaffer at this link

 

[Trapshooter]

I'm still a little confused on the adjudication.

I watched Sheaffer's interview and if I am understanding this correctly, there may be NO murder trial? Depending on the outcome of the adjudication he says will tell quite a bit about the murder trial, ie. if there will even be a trial or a plea?

Someone please enlighten me. Thanks!

 

[OneLostGrl]

Thank you Muzikman! I have been gone for awhile (thank you H1N1) and it's good to see the same old faces (ha ha) like you still keeping on top of this story for us! I miss you WS'rs I feel so much better hearing posts from what feels like old friends now. R0004 and OLG, Chiquita, etc., your posts have made me laugh and cry since returning -

Looks like KC's going to be suffering from a case of the mondays........

 

[shotzie]

OK I am confused too...Since the Defense doesn't want a Jury trial for the fraud, can they just go in front of the Judge for a Hearing.??

she would still be found guilty since it is so obvious she did all those things..What good does it do.. to plea to a Judge rather than a jury does she get less time? She would have to get up there an tell her story to the Judge wouldn't she..? Oh I hope so..that I would love to hear..YEH:woohoo:

 

[OneLostGrl]

I'm still a little confused on the adjudication.

I watched Sheaffer's interview and if I am understanding this correctly, there may be NO murder trial? Depending on the outcome of the adjudication he says will tell quite a bit about the murder trial, ie. if there will even be a trial or a plea?

Someone please enlighten me. Thanks!

My take on it is this- The talking heads are saying this stuff about the murder trail not happening because if she is convicted rather than adjudicated and takes the stand at the murder trail she will have to admit to be a convicted felon which would make the jury not like her. So for whatever reason the talking heads are saying "oh, well she must be gonna plea on the murder charge because it's way to early for her defense to decide not to put her on the stand" IMO, it's kinda a silly assumtion on their part because we all know she won't take the stand at her murder trail- I'm sure that was decided on day 1! It's all about the conviction.. if she's convicted there's no way JoseB would put her in the witness box and let the SA have at her for the murder trial. But there is no way he was gonna put her on the stand in the first place, imo.

 

[lillys]

I never thought the day would come when Casey would admit to any wrong doing. I like the sound of -plea deal!

 

[lillys]

OK I am confused too...Since the Defense doesn't want a Jury trial for the fraud, can they just go in front of the Judge for a Hearing.??

she would still be found guilty since it is so obvious she did all those things..What good does it do.. to plea to a Judge rather than a jury does she get less time? She would have to get up there an tell her story to the Judge wouldn't she..? Oh I hope so..that I would love to hear..YEH:woohoo:

shotzie,
That's what I want to know too.

 

[OneLostGrl]

OK I am confused too...Since the Defense doesn't want a Jury trial for the fraud, can they just go in front of the Judge for a Hearing.??

she would still be found guilty since it is so obvious she did all those things..What good does it do.. to plea to a Judge rather than a jury does she get less time? She would have to get up there an tell her story to the Judge wouldn't she..? Oh I hope so..that I would love to hear..YEH:woohoo:

She's an idiot. She is probably fighting JoseB about the plea.. it's not what she wants so she wants to go right to the judge and get a better deal. I don't think the judge will give her much less than the jury would but I betcha she thinks she can charm him. It seemed like it was all in place, good to go- now she wants the judge to do it. She's gotta have it her way!

mo

 

[JBean]

OK I am confused too...Since the Defense doesn't want a Jury trial for the fraud, can they just go in front of the Judge for a Hearing.??

she would still be found guilty since it is so obvious she did all those things..What good does it do.. to plea to a Judge rather than a jury does she get less time? She would have to get up there an tell her story to the Judge wouldn't she..? Oh I hope so..that I would love to hear..YEH:woohoo:

>>It appears Casey Anthony’s defense team is planning to bypass prosecutors and take its chances on a check fraud plea deal with the judge.
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The defense doesn't have to take its chances with the judge; it could go to trial. But Sheaffer says taking responsibility for the crime usually brings a lighter sentence.

&#8220;You go to trial and your client gets convicted, they're going to suffer a harsher penalty,&#8221; Sheaffer said.<<

http://www.wftv.com/news/22286349/detail.html

 

[logicalgirl]

OK I am confused too...Since the Defense doesn't want a Jury trial for the fraud, can they just go in front of the Judge for a Hearing.??

she would still be found guilty since it is so obvious she did all those things..What good does it do.. to plea to a Judge rather than a jury does she get less time? She would have to get up there an tell her story to the Judge wouldn't she..? Oh I hope so..that I would love to hear..YEH:woohoo:

I've just been watching Schaeffer's second video - and he explains it that the Judge will ask how she will plea and it will be no contest or guilty. The Judge will ask her a few questions to ensure she felt adequately advised by the lawyers, then the State will read out the charges and circumstances, and the Defense will answer each charge for Casey with a "guilty" or "no contest" plea.

Then I believe the State argues sentencing with Adjudication because they believe Casey is showing remorse only because she got caught, as displayed by the smiling relaxed Casey on the video's at the teller's window, and that the articles she "bought" were not life necessities for her or her child - i.e. beer, undies, sunglasses, etc. The Defense will argue she is truly remorseful and for a sentence without adjudication.

I thought it interesting that BS suggested Amy H. may be asked to comment on whether or not she is satisfied with repayment or if she wants to see Casey serve jail time. And the Judge considers and sentences either way.

 

[mom2chloe]

Anyone else think that maybe since there are so many felony charges and JS was adamant that this case would be disposed of prior to the murder trial, only a felony plea would be accepted? I have the utmost respect for JS but wonder if he would be the kind of judge to refuse to accept anything less than one felony count? Thoughts anyone?

 

[LambChop]

She's an idiot. She is probably fighting JoseB about the plea.. it's not what she wants so she wants to go right to the judge and get a better deal. I don't think the judge will give her much less than the jury would but I betcha she thinks she can charm him. It seemed like it was all in place, good to go- now she wants the judge to do it. She's gotta have it her way!

mo

I believe it was at the December 11th hearing JS told JB that because it was her first offense he would probably give her time served. So the judge basically offered it to KC that day. I think he would prefer KC came before him instead of a jury trial as he is willing to be fair and just wants this out of the way to focus on her murder trial. Since KC has put it in writing that she does not trust LE or SA it was nice of the judge to offer, don't ya think. Don't think the judge has made it to KC's version of the A's "do not invite" list, yet. JMO

 

[cyberborg]

>>It appears Casey Anthony’s defense team is planning to bypass prosecutors and take its chances on a check fraud plea deal with the judge.
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The defense doesn't have to take its chances with the judge; it could go to trial. But Sheaffer says taking responsibility for the crime usually brings a lighter sentence.

“You go to trial and your client gets convicted, they're going to suffer a harsher penalty,” Sheaffer said.<<

http://www.wftv.com/news/22286349/detail.html

Yup!!! From what Sheaffer said on the video, the Defense are arguing the finer points and seem stuck with the Prosecution who are not giving up ground --- they want Guilty with conviction on the record. The Defense want something like No Contest or Guilty but not on the record. By going direct to Judge S the Defense *may* get a better deal and maybe even what they want -- so the conviction is held over and is not presented as KC's criminal record at the Murder trial. IMHO.

 

[Tulessa]

I believe it was at the December 11th hearing JS told JB that because it was her first offense he would probably give her time served. So the judge basically offered it to KC that day. I think he would prefer KC came before him instead of a jury trial as he is willing to be fair and just wants this out of the way to focus on her murder trial. Since KC has put it in writing that she does not trust LE or SA it was nice of the judge to offer, don't ya think. Don't think the judge has made it to KC's version of the A's "do not invite" list, yet. JMO

:blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:

 

[LambChop]

If the judge is willing to give her a lighter sentence then it would make sense to go through the judge. I can see it now, KC demands a jury trial and is convicted and sentenced to 25 years (just guessing), then she goes through the murder trial and is found not guilty. She still would have to serve the 25 years when she could have been sentenced to time served. Wouldn't that be a bite of karma. JMO

 

[logicalgirl]

I believe it was at the December 11th hearing JS told JB that because it was her first offense he would probably give her time served. So the judge basically offered it to KC that day. I think he would prefer KC came before him instead of a jury trial as he is willing to be fair and just wants this out of the way to focus on her murder trial. Since KC has put it in writing that she does not trust LE or SA it was nice of the judge to offer, don't ya think. Don't think the judge has made it to KC's version of the A's "do not invite" list, yet. JMO

Yes, but it was for a guilty plea and that would mean "with adjudication" meaning it could be brought in at the murder trial. I think that's why the behind the scenes dealing now. Baez probably read RH's blog about the process and thought "oh oh - that doesn't sound good".

 

[lillys]

I've just been watching Schaeffer's second video - and he explains it that the Judge will ask how she will plea and it will be no contest or guilty. The Judge will ask her a few questions to ensure she felt adequately advised by the lawyers, then the State will read out the charges and circumstances, and the Defense will answer each charge for Casey with a "guilty" or "no contest" plea.

Then I believe the State argues sentencing with Adjudication because they believe Casey is showing remorse only because she got caught, as displayed by the smiling relaxed Casey on the video's at the teller's window, and that the articles she "bought" were not life necessities for her or her child - i.e. beer, undies, sunglasses, etc. The Defense will argue she is truly remorseful and for a sentence without adjudication.

I thought it interesting that BS suggested Amy H. may be asked to comment on whether or not she is satisfied with repayment or if she wants to see Casey serve jail time. And the Judge considers and sentences either way.

darn good explanation. thanks logicalgirl

 

[denjet]

Yup!!! From what Sheaffer said on the video, the Defense are arguing the finer points and seem stuck with the Prosecution who are not giving up ground --- they want Guilty with conviction on the record. The Defense want something like No Contest or Guilty but not on the record. By going direct to Judge S the Defense *may* get a better deal and maybe even what they want -- so the conviction is held over and is not presented as KC's criminal record at the Murder trial. IMHO.

I suspect what the quibbling is really all about is "deferred" adjudication ... where KC's punishment would not be handed down until a later date ... I mean I don't think the judge can order probation or a lesser sentence that could possibly be expunged when the defendant is in prison on a capital charge, can he? I think the defense is trying to still find a round about way to postpone any sentencing or punishment until after the murder trial ... IMO I don't think the state would go for that ...

Whatever, I'm sure the judge will do the right and fair thing ...

Just my interpretation of what Mr Shaeffer was saying ...

 

[The World According]

The defense takes everything....preposterous, unrealistic, real or imagined to the judge....he stands firm. I don't expect him to grant any defense wishes on this either. If he were opposed to her being a convicted felon at the murder trial, imo, he would have agreed to hold the fraud trial after. I think the defense is in for yet another slap down. Can I get a witness? LOL

 

[LambChop]

I've just been watching Schaeffer's second video - and he explains it that the Judge will ask how she will plea and it will be no contest or guilty. The Judge will ask her a few questions to ensure she felt adequately advised by the lawyers, then the State will read out the charges and circumstances, and the Defense will answer each charge for Casey with a "guilty" or "no contest" plea.

Then I believe the State argues sentencing with Adjudication because they believe Casey is showing remorse only because she got caught, as displayed by the smiling relaxed Casey on the video's at the teller's window, and that the articles she "bought" were not life necessities for her or her child - i.e. beer, undies, sunglasses, etc. The Defense will argue she is truly remorseful and for a sentence without adjudication.

I thought it interesting that BS suggested Amy H. may be asked to comment on whether or not she is satisfied with repayment or if she wants to see Casey serve jail time. And the Judge considers and sentences either way.

Let's hope AH takes that opportunity to tell KC exactly how she feels about what KC did to her and the judge considers it in the sentencing. We all remember that "smirk" on her face when she was arrested. Love to see the look on her face if the judge gives her a little more than she expects because of AH's statement.