What are The Missing Pieces To The Puzzle?

[LoriKeet]

This thread includes questions that are still unanswered in this case or search for missing Caylee. I'm not saying these missing pieces actually can help, but curiosity kills the cat! If anyone can answer any of these questions I would greatly appreciate your help

1. Did LE ever reveal anything about the woman who says she met little Caylee at the airport? LE was supposed to meet with the woman and create a sketch of this woman, did they? I thought that was a phone call that Cindy had received (Caylee seen going to terminal for flight to Atlanta)...was there are REAL person? If so I missed that part!

2. Why have a lot of Casey's myspace comments, and others involved been removed or deleted, ex:tlazzyo? I thought her brother Lee had taken over the management of them, and of course deleted anything that looked or sounded incriminating...pretty much everything!

3. Where are the cellphone records for June 17, 2008? Why have they not been revealed? THAT'S what I'd like to know! I;m sure LE is trying to locate whomever she tried calling...successful or otherwise, before releasing the info.

Just to name a few....

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[LoriKeet]

I think your theory is very imaginative, but highly unlikely for a few reasons.
Cindy says that she was there during delivery and was the first to hold Caylee.
The fact that Cindy says it, makes me doubt it even more!

She gave that as a reason why Casey may have been jealous of their bond.
Sociopaths are great at justifying others actions.

Also, there are pictures on the internet that you can find of Cindy and Casey in the hospital after she gave birth. Plus, there are also pictures of Caylee younger than ten months at her GP's home and with the GP's.
Do you have any links?!

I think when she said that Caylee came into her life unexpectedly, that just meant that she was an unplanned baby.
I figured that all along, but it COULD have been "code" for something else...seems that is how everyone in this family communicates...via code letters, or myspace pages!

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[Thinking_Out_Loud]

¿Did Casey collect child support from Grund for those first ten months?

¿What was this girl actually doing on June 16? Her father said that he saw her leave with Caylee around 1:50PM.

She told the police that she was working from 9AM-1PM. She sais that she dropped Caylee off at 9AM and tried to pick her up at 5PM.
¿Is her sense of time that off that she could not remember she saw her father in the afternoon?

¿Seriously, couldn't someone just call her out on this time conflict, and ask where exactly she went betweent 1:50PM and 5PM? Maybe someone saw them together...

¿Why was George able to remember exactly what the girls were wearing 1 1/2 months later?

¿Was she wearing the same outfit she was supposedly wearing on 6/13 when spotted at the mall with an unknown person?

¿Was Caylee's little white monkey backpack found?

¿Was Casey's Seizure a one time thing or does she have a long history of seizures?

¿What caused the seizure and what type was it? ¿What part of her brain did it affect?

¿Why was there a Zenaida Gonzalez looking for an apartment at Sawgrass one day after Caylee was last seen by anyone other than her mother? Actually, a better question would be.. ¿Why was she looking for apartments when she clearly has no job?

¿Why would the management of Sawgrass apatments say that Zenaida had above-shoulder-length, brown hair when the one on Local 6 looked like she had long blondish hair? (personally, I keep thinking there is more to this like maybe there was a third person involved that said she was zenaida. Hair does not grow that fast over a month)

¿Did LE check out other apartments on Conway to verify ZG's story?

¿Who is this ZG chick's boyfriend that suggested that they look at Sawgrass, anyway?

I have more questions but I don't want to go overboard...

 

[Thinking_Out_Loud]

Also, there are pictures on the internet that you can find of Cindy and Casey in the hospital after she gave birth. Plus, there are also pictures of Caylee younger than ten months at her GP's home and with the GP's.
Do you have any links?!

Well, I have been trying to for about ten minutes now. They used to be on a link to photobucket that could be found on this forum. It looks like someone pulled it, maybe cops subpoenaed that too. I guess a more seasoned sleuth would have them downloaded to her computer....

 

[krimekat]

Thanks for starting this thread!

I would add these questions/issues, too, if you don't mind.

4.Who did Casey really "steal" money from? What happened to the Grand Theft claim?
5. Where did Cindy actually find Casey on the afternoon/evening of July 15th and how long after having retrieved the car?
6.Where is Lee's statement that he had no idea his sister was "missing" for a month? He and Casey appear in photos taken over the course of a year with many of the same people.
7. I would love to see actual proof that Cindy informed a seasoned homicide detective and/or other LE on July 15th that she had removed Casey's clothing, shoes, and boots from a car that reeked of death.

Cindy called Amy who led Cindy to TonEs house where Cindy picked Casey up

 

[krimekat]

And some where IIRC I thought that it had been heard that Casey was 7 months pregnant before anyone knew.

Sounds like my younger sister . . . and we had a shower AFTER her baby was born

 

[LoriKeet]

¿Did Casey collect child support from Grund for those first ten months? Not sure about that...but they DID live with him and I THINK his parents...and he and the parents supported her and Casey until the paternity test results came back.

¿What was this girl actually doing on June 16? Her father said that he saw her leave with Caylee around 1:50PM. I thought it was 12:50 during his favorite Food Network show? Also that was supposedly the day they were moving out. I found it odd that George didn't give Caylee hugs and kisses, etc., saying things like "we'll miss you...see you soon, etc."

She told the police that she was working from 9AM-1PM. She sais that she dropped Caylee off at 9AM and tried to pick her up at 5PM.
¿Is her sense of time that off that she could not remember she saw her father in the afternoon? I thought she said she dropped Caylee off at Zenaida's apartment BETWEEN 9AM -1PM...guess she couldn't account for a 4 hour window?! Also if she left the father's house at 12:50PM on the 16th (according to George), then how can she be AT Zenaida's apt by 1:00PM...I believe Sawgrass Apt. are at least 15 minutes drive time away? So she couldn't have been at "work from 9-5PM" (and we now know she didn't have any sort of regular employment or legitimate job)

¿Seriously, couldn't someone just call her out on this time conflict, and ask where exactly she went betweent 1:50PM and 5PM? Maybe someone saw them together... THAT would be nice!

¿Why was George able to remember exactly what the girls were wearing 1 1/2 months later? We don't know if that was hindsight, a lie, or some other way of establishing some sort of alibi based on Cindy's finding of Casey's outfit in the back of her car. If George DOES have a favorite show that he watches at that time, he would know to include the time in his recollection of events...but didn't necessarily HAVE to be watching the show at that moment...could have been taped/TiVoed.

¿Was she wearing the same outfit she was supposedly wearing on 6/13 when spotted at the mall with an unknown person? Caylee was reported to have been wearing a pink and blue outfit with white rimmed sunglasses--I think it was either Christina or Amy that saw them. I think George only mentioned both were wearing their backpacks when they left--not sure if he mentioned what Caylee was wearing.

¿Was Caylee's little white monkey backpack found? ?

¿Was Casey's Seizure a one time thing or does she have a long history of seizures? When did this happen?

¿What caused the seizure and what type was it? ¿What part of her brain did it affect?

¿Why was there a Zenaida Gonzalez looking for an apartment at Sawgrass one day after Caylee was last seen by anyone other than her mother? Actually, a better question would be.. ¿Why was she looking for apartments when she clearly has no job? Her parents didn't know she didn't have a job (crazy, I know!) Her parents had been supporting her financially this far...they could have been willing to pay for an apartment if she found one? There was also a report of Casey introducing herself as Zenaida Gonzalez! She could have been the one who filled out the guest card in disguise, and viewed the apartment, all as a way of setting up her alibi. Sawgrass is across the street from Tony's.

¿Why would the management of Sawgrass apatments say that Zenaida had above-shoulder-length, brown hair when the one on Local 6 looked like she had long blondish hair? (personally, I keep thinking there is more to this like maybe there was a third person involved that said she was zenaida. Hair does not grow that fast over a month) A wig? Dyed her hair?

¿Did LE check out other apartments on Conway to verify ZG's story? ?

¿Who is this ZG chick's boyfriend that suggested that they look at Sawgrass, anyway? Who did they say was Zenaida's boyfriend?

I have more questions but I don't want to go overboard...

Unfortunately CASEY has the answers to all of these questions, but she's not talking!!!

 

[AlwaysShocked]

Why have George and Cindy "backtracked" so much with information and then sounded like they are "making it up on the fly" when they are interviewed?

During the Greta interview George's "gas can story" did not ring true, nor did his "I saw them leave with backpacks and it was exactly 12:50 PM" story.

We all know that Casey has told multiple lies to multiple people since Day One. But George and Cindy? Why does it seem that they are now "making up stories" as they go?

 

[Thinking_Out_Loud]

Unfortunately CASEY has the answers to all of these questions, but she's not talking!!!

Originally Posted by Thinking_Out_Loud
¿Did Casey collect child support from Grund for those first ten months? Not sure about that...but they DID live with him and I THINK his parents...and he and the parents supported her and Casey until the paternity test results came back.
Did they actually live with them? I thought the word was that she was just over there every day which could mean that she went to visit every day. I know that I have visited boyfriends everyday.

¿What was this girl actually doing on June 16? Her father said that he saw her leave with Caylee around 1:50PM. I thought it was 12:50 during his favorite Food Network show? Also that was supposedly the day they were moving out. I found it odd that George didn't give Caylee hugs and kisses, etc., saying things like "we'll miss you...see you soon, etc."
You're absolutely correct about the time. I was going to put 1PM then added the :50 without changing 1 to 12. I thought he told Greta or someone that he did give hugs goodbye. I haven't heard about the food network thing, but I remember him saying that he was off to work too. There was another report where he went to work another day (24th, I believe) and left around 2PM. Why the time difference? I guess that could be easily justifiable though.

She told the police that she was working from 9AM-1PM. She sais that she dropped Caylee off at 9AM and tried to pick her up at 5PM.
¿Is her sense of time that off that she could not remember she saw her father in the afternoon? I thought she said she dropped Caylee off at Zenaida's apartment BETWEEN 9AM -1PM...guess she couldn't account for a 4 hour window?! Also if she left the father's house at 12:50PM on the 16th (according to George), then how can she be AT Zenaida's apt by 1:00PM...I believe Sawgrass Apt. are at least 15 minutes drive time away? So she couldn't have been at "work from 9-5PM" (and we now know she didn't have any sort of regular employment or legitimate job)

That's what I would like to know! She lied about the time, but then I thought that maybe she got the date wrong again because the girl has no concept of dates. Otherwise she would have said that she hasn't seen her daughter since June 16 instead of 31 days. Who counts up like that? She did it again on Facebook when she told someone that she had not been home for 9 days. Where the heck was she? She had a whole month to get her lies straight! What happened here?

¿Seriously, couldn't someone just call her out on this time conflict, and ask where exactly she went betweent 1:50PM and 5PM? Maybe someone saw them together... THAT would be nice!

¿Why was George able to remember exactly what the girls were wearing 1 1/2 months later? We don't know if that was hindsight, a lie, or some other way of establishing some sort of alibi based on Cindy's finding of Casey's outfit in the back of her car. If George DOES have a favorite show that he watches at that time, he would know to include the time in his recollection of events...but didn't necessarily HAVE to be watching the show at that moment...could have been taped/TiVoed.
The key here is the pink and blue outfit with white sunglasses and the gray slacks. He named things that he saw after the fact, and I cannot expect a man to remember what his daughter and granddaughter were wearing. I could say that he is a cop and makes a mental note of what everyone wears all the time.... I guess.. By the way, why does everyone keep saying that June 15 was the last day she was seen by anyone other than GM? GP clearly saw her the next day... Unless people just don't believe him but believe the camera instead.

¿Was she wearing the same outfit she was supposedly wearing on 6/13 when spotted at the mall with an unknown person? Caylee was reported to have been wearing a pink and blue outfit with white rimmed sunglasses--I think it was either Christina or Amy that saw them. I think George only mentioned both were wearing their backpacks when they left--not sure if he mentioned what Caylee was wearing.

It was mentioned that Caylee was wearing a white backpack with a monkey on it.
¿Was Caylee's little white monkey backpack found? ?

¿Was Casey's Seizure a one time thing or does she have a long history of seizures? When did this happen?
In the affidavit, it is mentioned that Jesse Grund had taken Casey to the hospital once because she was having a seizure. The date was not mentioned.

¿What caused the seizure and what type was it? ¿What part of her brain did it affect?
This is important because it accounts for memory loss, personality change, and location confusion.

¿Why was there a Zenaida Gonzalez looking for an apartment at Sawgrass one day after Caylee was last seen by anyone other than her mother? Actually, a better question would be.. ¿Why was she looking for apartments when she clearly has no job? Her parents didn't know she didn't have a job (crazy, I know!) Her parents had been supporting her financially this far...they could have been willing to pay for an apartment if she found one? There was also a report of Casey introducing herself as Zenaida Gonzalez! She could have been the one who filled out the guest card in disguise, and viewed the apartment, all as a way of setting up her alibi. Sawgrass is across the street from Tony's.
Sorry, I wasn't talking about Casey not having a job. I was talking about ZG. During an interview with Local6, she said that she could not get a job because people thought that she was a kidnapper. Casey did not fill out the card. It was reported that the management fills out the cards and looks at IDs. Therefore, there really was a ZG she was interviewed by police 4 times. Then interviewed by Local6. I think that it was speculation that Casey introduced herself as ZG. Sawgrass is not across the street from Tone's. He lives on University BLVD near FullSaill, and Sawgrass is on Conway. In the affidavit, it says that Casey led detectives to a senior facility that was across from the apartment of her ex-boyfriend, Ricardo Morales.

¿Why would the management of Sawgrass apatments say that Zenaida had above-shoulder-length, brown hair when the one on Local 6 looked like she had long blondish hair? (personally, I keep thinking there is more to this like maybe there was a third person involved that said she was zenaida. Hair does not grow that fast over a month) A wig? Dyed her hair?
I am more concerned with the length than the color. ZG could have been wearing a wig.... but that is suspicious too.

¿Did LE check out other apartments on Conway to verify ZG's story? ? ZG told Local6 that she and her boyfriend were looking up and down Conway for a pretty apartment. They only stopped at Sawgrass because her BF said they looked nice.

¿Who is this ZG chick's boyfriend that suggested that they look at Sawgrass, anyway? Who did they say was Zenaida's boyfriend? Nobody has given him a name yet. Worth looking into.

I have more questions but I don't want to go overboard...

 

[SelmaClue]

There's only one missing piece to the puzzle: The Truth

 

[LoriKeet]

There's only one missing piece to the puzzle: The Truth

...and it's a really big and jagged piece!!!

 

[sweetwater]

Why did Cindy think it was a good idea to report the car stolen after she had recovered it? She had a month, then almost 2 weeks since her desperate myspace post to inform LE if she was so concerned about Caylee. Did she need to disassociate herself from the smell of death?
Why did she go along with Casey's June 9 disappearance date when she had actually taken Caylee to visit the GGF? Only upon questioning by LE did she acknowledge the visit, but even then her acknowledgment crazyspeak.
I find it awfully hard to believe that a nurse and Adminstrator of a medical office is so inept and inarticulate.

 

[SelmaClue]

...and it's a really big and jagged piece!!!

Yessirreebob ... the truth cuts like a knife and I think we're all ready to bleed, gleefully. If only Casey Anthony was ready to bleed, too. But she's not ready yet. She will be soon. Soon she'll get it that she has to fess up, for once in her life. I can't even hate her at this point. I believe she's sitting in her cell, hating herself enough for all of us. And I also think she'll have the rest of her life to continue to do just that. Sadly,

 

[thatswhatshesaid]

Me too! I thought someone named DJ had already said that Caylee and Casey stayed there a few nights and everyone figured that was when the Anthony's were on vacation.

In the interview with Greta last night Clint House (DJ) the roommate said Caylee NEVER slept over at their apartment.

 

[CarrieSis]

I have questions, too.

1. Why was Tuesday the 24th chosen? Why does it keep appearing? Why a Tuesday? I think there's a key hidden here we haven't seen or figured out yet.

2. Any interesting or unusual cases during George's time as LE that he might have spoken about in front of or to Casey about?

 

[Amberjack]

Why was Casey & Caylee asked to leave the house?

What was the argument about on Father's Day?

What did George say/do when he discovered the gas containers?

 

[ellieit]

Originally Posted by Thinking_Out_Loud
¿Did Casey collect child support from Grund for those first ten months? Not sure about that...but they DID live with him and I THINK his parents...and he and the parents supported her and Casey until the paternity test results came back.
Did they actually live with them? I thought the word was that she was just over there every day which could mean that she went to visit every day. I know that I have visited boyfriends everyday.

¿What was this girl actually doing on June 16? Her father said that he saw her leave with Caylee around 1:50PM. I thought it was 12:50 during his favorite Food Network show? Also that was supposedly the day they were moving out. I found it odd that George didn't give Caylee hugs and kisses, etc., saying things like "we'll miss you...see you soon, etc."
You're absolutely correct about the time. I was going to put 1PM then added the :50 without changing 1 to 12. I thought he told Greta or someone that he did give hugs goodbye. I haven't heard about the food network thing, but I remember him saying that he was off to work too. There was another report where he went to work another day (24th, I believe) and left around 2PM. Why the time difference? I guess that could be easily justifiable though.

She told the police that she was working from 9AM-1PM. She sais that she dropped Caylee off at 9AM and tried to pick her up at 5PM.
¿Is her sense of time that off that she could not remember she saw her father in the afternoon? I thought she said she dropped Caylee off at Zenaida's apartment BETWEEN 9AM -1PM...guess she couldn't account for a 4 hour window?! Also if she left the father's house at 12:50PM on the 16th (according to George), then how can she be AT Zenaida's apt by 1:00PM...I believe Sawgrass Apt. are at least 15 minutes drive time away? So she couldn't have been at "work from 9-5PM" (and we now know she didn't have any sort of regular employment or legitimate job)

That's what I would like to know! She lied about the time, but then I thought that maybe she got the date wrong again because the girl has no concept of dates. Otherwise she would have said that she hasn't seen her daughter since June 16 instead of 31 days. Who counts up like that? She did it again on Facebook when she told someone that she had not been home for 9 days. Where the heck was she? She had a whole month to get her lies straight! What happened here?

¿Seriously, couldn't someone just call her out on this time conflict, and ask where exactly she went betweent 1:50PM and 5PM? Maybe someone saw them together... THAT would be nice!

¿Why was George able to remember exactly what the girls were wearing 1 1/2 months later? We don't know if that was hindsight, a lie, or some other way of establishing some sort of alibi based on Cindy's finding of Casey's outfit in the back of her car. If George DOES have a favorite show that he watches at that time, he would know to include the time in his recollection of events...but didn't necessarily HAVE to be watching the show at that moment...could have been taped/TiVoed.
The key here is the pink and blue outfit with white sunglasses and the gray slacks. He named things that he saw after the fact, and I cannot expect a man to remember what his daughter and granddaughter were wearing. I could say that he is a cop and makes a mental note of what everyone wears all the time.... I guess.. By the way, why does everyone keep saying that June 15 was the last day she was seen by anyone other than GM? GP clearly saw her the next day... Unless people just don't believe him but believe the camera instead.

¿Was she wearing the same outfit she was supposedly wearing on 6/13 when spotted at the mall with an unknown person? Caylee was reported to have been wearing a pink and blue outfit with white rimmed sunglasses--I think it was either Christina or Amy that saw them. I think George only mentioned both were wearing their backpacks when they left--not sure if he mentioned what Caylee was wearing.

It was mentioned that Caylee was wearing a white backpack with a monkey on it.
¿Was Caylee's little white monkey backpack found? ?

¿Was Casey's Seizure a one time thing or does she have a long history of seizures? When did this happen?
In the affidavit, it is mentioned that Jesse Grund had taken Casey to the hospital once because she was having a seizure. The date was not mentioned.

¿What caused the seizure and what type was it? ¿What part of her brain did it affect?
This is important because it accounts for memory loss, personality change, and location confusion.

¿Why was there a Zenaida Gonzalez looking for an apartment at Sawgrass one day after Caylee was last seen by anyone other than her mother? Actually, a better question would be.. ¿Why was she looking for apartments when she clearly has no job? Her parents didn't know she didn't have a job (crazy, I know!) Her parents had been supporting her financially this far...they could have been willing to pay for an apartment if she found one? There was also a report of Casey introducing herself as Zenaida Gonzalez! She could have been the one who filled out the guest card in disguise, and viewed the apartment, all as a way of setting up her alibi. Sawgrass is across the street from Tony's.
Sorry, I wasn't talking about Casey not having a job. I was talking about ZG. During an interview with Local6, she said that she could not get a job because people thought that she was a kidnapper. Casey did not fill out the card. It was reported that the management fills out the cards and looks at IDs. Therefore, there really was a ZG she was interviewed by police 4 times. Then interviewed by Local6. I think that it was speculation that Casey introduced herself as ZG. Sawgrass is not across the street from Tone's. He lives on University BLVD near FullSaill, and Sawgrass is on Conway. In the affidavit, it says that Casey led detectives to a senior facility that was across from the apartment of her ex-boyfriend, Ricardo Morales.

¿Why would the management of Sawgrass apatments say that Zenaida had above-shoulder-length, brown hair when the one on Local 6 looked like she had long blondish hair? (personally, I keep thinking there is more to this like maybe there was a third person involved that said she was zenaida. Hair does not grow that fast over a month) A wig? Dyed her hair?
I am more concerned with the length than the color. ZG could have been wearing a wig.... but that is suspicious too.

¿Did LE check out other apartments on Conway to verify ZG's story? ? ZG told Local6 that she and her boyfriend were looking up and down Conway for a pretty apartment. They only stopped at Sawgrass because her BF said they looked nice.

¿Who is this ZG chick's boyfriend that suggested that they look at Sawgrass, anyway? Who did they say was Zenaida's boyfriend? Nobody has given him a name yet. Worth looking into.

I have more questions but I don't want to go overboard...

ZG ex-boyfriend is friends with Anne and Dante that lived in the SG apartments. He is also friends with the guys at the Tattoo place where CA got her tattoo. Funny how we have read all the statements but Annie and Dante's =)

 

[Meagain]

Date(s) of Chloroform search.

 

[doortonowhere]

I think I may have an answer...could it be the grandparents didn't even know about Caylee until she was 10 months old?! Casey could have hidden her pregnancy--she is very tiny, and many girls who are tiny don't even show until the last couple of months of their pregnancies--and then a relatively easy to conceal "baby bump."

Given Casey's penchant for disappearing for weeks on end. Could she have left home on some "work venture/vacation" when she started to show, had Caylee (since Cindy admits Casey had a job at the time Caylee was born and insurance paid the hospital bills), and moved in with the Grund family. Jesse was her fiance until he had a paternity test taken and it showed he wasn't Caylee's father!

Jesse kicks Casey and Caylee out, and she goes running home to Cindy and George, and that explains Cindy's MySpace entry dated July 3rd about Casey and Caylee coming in to their lives unexpectedly...(I have the entry that was deleted bookmarked, if you want to read it!) The GPs then had a baby shower AFTER Caylee moved in with them.

No cause it was already said that CA was the first one to hold Caylee in the hospital when she was born.

 

[sharpar]

1. Did LE ever reveal anything about the woman who says she met little Caylee at the airport? LE was supposed to meet with the woman and create a sketch of this woman, did they? I thought that was a phone call that Cindy had received (Caylee seen going to terminal for flight to Atlanta)...was there are REAL person? If so I missed that part!
Both Cindy and LE discredited this tip on tv interviews -
2. Why have a lot of Casey's myspace comments, and others involved been removed or deleted, ex:tlazzyo? I thought her brother Lee had taken over the management of them, and of course deleted anything that looked or sounded incriminating...pretty much everything!
Its not for certain but Lee admits messing with the computer while it
was at TonE's after Casey was removed by her mother in his LE interview.
3. Where are the cellphone records for June 17, 2008? Why have they not been revealed? THAT'S what I'd like to know! I;m sure LE is trying to locate whomever she tried calling...successful or otherwise, before releasing the info. I think LE has them

Just to name a few....