what are your thoughts now? *re-re-poll*

[LaLaw2000]

Wheres the selection for "Mom and another accomplice?"

I voted both, but I really like your option as well.

 

[kathryann]

I voted that I don't have a clue, but after reading some of the posts, I am leaning toward something happened and Dad is covering up. Something just isn't right with this couple, why are they not begging for her return? I'm just stumped.

 

[writer7]

Something strange is going on, and the dad strikes me as more suspicious acting than the mom. What's up with the hit by the HRD dog? And cancelling all of these interviews is just not done. Something is up with the family, imho.

If they really don't know what happened and are afraid of being arrested for it or other activities, that's not a good enough excuse, imho. Sometimes you have to bare all and let the chips fall where they may. This is their baby!

 

[Marple]

I don't know where little Lisa is but I am not convinced that the parents had anything to do with it. So far, most of the reports have been from the media and there's too much spin. Things that appear suspicious can be explained, IMO. Hopefully LE is close to getting the missing pieces and putting it all together.

 

[Leila]

I had seen some members ask for another poll. Have your thoughts changed? If so, why?

**remember no name calling and bashing or embellishing names of case players**

Yes, my thoughts have changed. Originally I was on the fence in this case. But when DBs story changed and she admitted she was drunk and possibly blacked out, I felt that she probably did it.

Now, with all the stalling and manipulation, combined with changed stories and lack of cooperation with LE, and the lack of any pleas to "the kidnapper" to bring their baby home, I think it was both parents. One did something and the other is covering for the other.

I'm inclined to think it was accidental, but at this point, I wouldn't rule anything out.

 

[nursebeeme]

somewhere the actual baby missing has gotten lost in all this hoopla that the family created

:saythat:

I cannot believe that I personally still sit on the fence but I do. I truly think the family has taken bad advice from the start and now they are in this vicious cycle that they cannot extricate themselves from.

I am still on the fence.

I am however confident in LE and the FBI that is working this case. However, that being said, how can they even clear the ground zero (where the baby was last seen) if the parents stay holed up in a house on walrond not saying a word and doing lawyer-musical chairs?

My advice to this family would be to man up and take the advice of other families that have been in their shoes.. If they continue on the way they are going and they are truly innocent.. they are wasting valuable time in letting police move beyond them..

(which of course is why I am also on the fence....):twocents:

 

[annalia]

I'm still on the fence but only holding on to it by my fingernails.

DB is highly suspicious, she is the reason that LE is looking at them. She brought it onto herself, no one made her give false statements, no one made her keep changing her story.

It's their choice not to cooperate, which in turn leaves LE in limbo, not able to clear them and move forward. It's all about them, their feelings and not finding Lisa.

But crazier things have happened with intruders and kidnapped children so even though the parents are pushing me off the fence, I'm waiting for that aha moment to put it all together, still giving them a tiny benefit of the doubt.

And now attorneys are involved with their own agendas, making it even more convoluted. So who knows if now DB/JI are only doing what attorneys are telling them to do, not knowing any better, thinking the attorneys are doing what's in their best interest?

 

[iamnotagolem]

Well I'm in the minority, I think if the parents are involved that it was Dad. It is my opinion that he's involved and has lied to DB about what happened. I don't think DB truly knows what happened and don't think she was given much time to get a story memorized to keep straight. I think she's covering for him, but doesn't know the truth about what happened.

Or a family member stole her. I'm still thinking this is likely.

 

[DairyGirl]

I really have no clue. I lean towards the parents being involved in some way but no idea how or what. But I think it could have been someone else and the parents are just unfortunate victims of their own circumstances. They sure aren't making the best choices and almost seem to be doing everything to make themselves look bad but that doesn't mean they did anything.
I also understand the LE hopefully has a lot of information that no one else does, even though obviously they don't know where Lisa is. I don't have enough information to make any solid judgments. As more information comes out I may change my mind but for now I am still pretty open to all possibilities.
I guess if I had to put a number to it I would say maybe 65% or 70% leaning towards the parents being involved.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

I've thought for awhile now that it was the mother, and I didn't think the father had a thing to do with it. Now, I still think the mother is responsible for the death of this child, but I think the father knows this and is helping cover it up...probably out of fear that he might lose custody of his son if the truth comes out.

 

[MsMacGyver]

It's starting to make sense to me now. I believe that DB isn't a very capable person. I think it's likely JI took care of alot of things. The first night JI works, something happens to Lisa. The FBI cadaver dog gets a hit in DB bedroom. It's possible Lisa died on the floor, maybe rolls off DB's bed or was put there when someones attempts CPR. It's possible DB's brother had spent the night since JI was working and DB didn't want to be alone all night. It's also possible someone attempts to make a phone call on the cell and gets the wrong number or a random number was called to create confusion. DB's brother takes the dead baby and walks through town making sure no one sees his face but also making sure baby Lisa is spotted by enough people. This was done to support the kidnapping story. I think the brother knows where Lisa is. LE needs to search in the area where the last sighting of the man and baby was around 4:00 am. The brother would have had to hide Lisa's body before sun rise so as not to be seen.
It could be the brother started the fire in the dumpster to destroy the babys clothing and cell phones. DB could have done this also. There is a good reason why the parents don't want the two boys interviewed by LE. It could be they heard or saw something, DB's brother spending the night. I think the house scene was staged to support the kidnapping story. Hopefully it won't take LE as long to find Lisa as it did Caylee...jmo

 

[SmoothOperator]

Haven't read anyone's comments, thoughts or opinions about where it is that they presently stand since last night.. With this news of CS being fired I may sound crazy:crazy: but I'm going to stay up here on this fence FOR NOW.. I am hoping that from what little I've read that the reason for her being fired is due to her major over media saturation this week, along with her stating that if she has it her way those boys will not ever be reinterviewed!! I am praying this is why she was fired and that this means that the parents and JT do not share her same opinion and that we will VERY SOON see forward movement including having these boys reinterviewed if that's what is necessary to move forward and find Lisa..

As I said I may be crazy, but for the moment this is what I'm praying is what's behind CS being terminated!! OTOH I cannot help but have in the back of mind that CS knowing much more than we do may in fact realize that these parents are guilty of harming Lisa thus the reason for her adamant disapproval of allowing these boys to be questioned due to her protecting her guilty clients best interests.. I just don't know yet.. But I cannot turn a blind eye to that indeed being a possibility here.. Just gonna have to wait to see what happens next..

For now continuing to pray for baby Lisa and her to be found and those responsible to be punished to the absolute fullest extent of the law..

 

[Karmaa]

I have no clue. But I do know this - I don't trust the media at all. Not the local, and not the national either. They have said things in such a way to make it look like things were said, when they actually weren't. Some of that stuff is now seen as "fact" and I believe may be influencing opinions.

I do trust LE - at least mostly. I will wait till we hear from them before I form any opinion.

 

[alien]

The media may not be always reliable, but they seldom get the facts wrong.

I feel so sick of this couple. This couple has been trying hard not to help in the investigation.

 

[natsound]

My thoughts are pretty much the same. Mom did it... acted alone... drunken accident.

 

[Dr. Know?]

My thoughts have changed quickly and still changing. Knowing names via MSM videos or articles, reading dockets, visiting & mapping addresses, sure gets you caught up on some things though. Where that leaves my op is ahead of the news but dizzy from the info.

Right now, I feel there should be a write in vote.

 

[captivagrl]

If the parents and/or attorney think live interviews are a problem, why don't they tape messages and release them? I don't understand why they're not keeping Lisa in the spotlight everyday. Exclusive media deals? I just don't get it. Where's the real concern for Lisa? It's become a guessing game...who was where when, who said what exactly??? Tell the public the truth so Lisa can be found (period) They appear to be hiding something. I can't believe a stranger abduction when parents aren't open and truthful from the start.

 

[CanManEh]

Havn't had the time to catch up yet but i thought i would say that i find this lady that recieved a phone call from the cell is all just a little too suspicous for me . She has a roll in this I think anyway what that roll is will have to wait and see I Guess.

 

[ThoughtFox]

The Mom makes my hinky meter spin continuously.

Whatever happened, happened while Mom was in charge.

 

[Curious Me]

My thoughts...

Something bad happened to little Lisa. What exactly, when, and by whose hand, I don't know. Both parents however, are complicit in the (IMO) deliberate obfuscation that started from the very beginning, and has gotten worse. There has been a lack of urgency and cooperation on the family's part in locating Lisa, and it's worsening.

The truth of what happened and where little Lisa is today is being deliberately covered up by the very ones she should have been able to trust with her life.

:goodpost: It's sad to see less and less concern everyday now for finding their baby daughter Lisa. Dad can't still be stunned or whatever. He should be breaking away on his own and talking more. Protecting one of their boys may sound noble, but it would be madness to bring this on themselves for some accident, so I don't think that's it. Dad has been included in my vote now.