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  • #81
aussiesheila said:
There are no crime scene photos of the body, but there are autopsy photos. One of them shows JonBenet's neck with the cord around it and the head is tilted to one side.

I envisage a totally different scenario from BlueCrab's.

IMO if she was held in the standing position with her arms tied at the wrists and held outstretched above her head during an abuse session, and was killed in this position, then her body could well have been left in this position when it was laid horizontally on the floor of the cellar maybe an hour or so after the killing. (doesn't a body go through an initial but temporary stiffening shortly (about an hour?) after death and remain so for a short period of time (several hours?).

If she had been left in this position on the cellar floor, the weight and shape of the head might have been enough to cause it to tilt sideways some time later, so that it came to rest on one of her outstretched arms and as it appears in the autopsy photo.

IMO this is what happened and this is how John found her when he first saw her at 1 pm the next day. John said he didn't see the rope around her neck. I think he was trying to untie her wrists and cradle her head in his arms at the same time, as a distressed father might very well do.

aussiesheila,

If she had been killed in an upright position, and left for any length of time then there should be abrasions on her wrists, arms etc where she was tethered standing up, due to gravity. But the Coroner Dr. John Meyer did not record any abrasions like this in his autopsy report!

I suspect her arms are extended above her head due to her being re-dressed, probably from some item of clothing then to the the red turtleneck and back into her white gap top?

It is very curious that Patsy wants us all to know that she and JonBenet argued over her wearing that red top, as if that is a pseudo explanation for something none of us has questioned yet?

Adding a tabloid twist to this theme, since JonBenet was encouraged to dress up and perform for her pageants, she may have been dressed up and going through some routine prior to her death?


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  • #82
UKGuy said:
aussiesheila,

If she had been killed in an upright position, and left for any length of time then there should be abrasions on her wrists, arms etc where she was tethered standing up, due to gravity. But the Coroner Dr. John Meyer did not record any abrasions like this in his autopsy report!

I suspect her arms are extended above her head due to her being re-dressed, probably from some item of clothing then to the the red turtleneck and back into her white gap top?

It is very curious that Patsy wants us all to know that she and JonBenet argued over her wearing that red top, as if that is a pseudo explanation for something none of us has questioned yet?

Adding a tabloid twist to this theme, since JonBenet was encouraged to dress up and perform for her pageants, she may have been dressed up and going through some routine prior to her death?


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re abrasions on her wrists:
Yes you have a point there UKGuy and if what you say is definitely true then I would have to reconsider my idea. But if she was not hanging, but rather standing on a chair with her arms stretched tight to ropes attached overhead, ie her body held taught but not hanging, it might be possible for only very minor abrasions to result, particularly if the Gap top sleeve ends were between the rope and her skin. But I don't know for sure.

re clothing:
I don't think she was re-dressed in the Gap top, I think that was on her the whole evening, even during the abuse.

re Patsy:
well she is so full of guilt all her answers are designed to deceive, IMO

re pageants:
I don't think pageants had anything to do with the case
 

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