What Did Casey Tell Psychiatrists?

[elementary]

The Defense Experts HAVE examined the Defendant, but are basing their expert opinions solely on statements that the Defendant made to them (no research into her background, mental health history or diagnosis of any condition).

http://www.wftv.com/video/27525949/index.html
Kathi is incorrect in this video report when she says the Defense experts have NOT examined the Defendant...they HAVE examined her.

Kathi is confusing Ashton's statements in the Motion in Limine with the Motion for Examination by Mental Health Expert (which was filed first)

- 04/12/2011 Motion In Limine as to Testimony of Mental Health Experts
http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/casey-mental-health-0412.pdf
4. The reports indicate that the opinions of the experts are based entirely upon statements made to them by the Defendant. .[implied - when they examined her]


- 04/08/2011 Motion for Examination by Mental Health Expert
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/75720807/20110408-SA-Motion-for-Exam-by-Mental-Health-Expert
2. "The reports of those experts, and their partial depositions, reveal that their opinions will be based upon their examination of the Defendant.

This connotation of 'examination' confuses me. Did they do a Mental Status, MMPI, a bunch of objective tests? Or did they ask a bunch of questions that are not standardised, and therefore become suspect as to their objectivity (could be leading question, for example).

From the sounds of it, they asked the perp a bunch of questions or had a conversation with her, and then, just like any amateur armchair psychologist, took the statements and wove a story about the meaning of her behaviour. This would also fit in with the idea that PTSD explains her behaviour. If PTSD, for example, informed the direction of their questions, then this obvious bias is wrong on so many counts. Moreover, divorced from a complete history and testing, it's purely fiction. And to make this fiction acceptable, they will call it a 'hypothetical". The fact that any mental health professional would lend credence to this sort of chicanery just blows my mind, it's so appalling.

PS At this point I'm running with the PTSD defence.

 

[SunnyinMO]

I'm just wondering if the SA is REALLY that concerned , or if the MSM is hyping this up?

I vote for MSM hype. It looks like the only thing the State is objecting to is them giving 'expert testimony' based on what KC says....good golly Miss Molly! who could believe anything that comes out of KC's mouth. Sounds like another of CM's dirty little tricks. JA and LDB are onto thos good ole boy and his tricks. Judge Strickland had her pegged early on when he said, '"Miss Anthony and the truth are strangers."

 

[gamom]

The Defense Experts HAVE examined the Defendant, but are basing their expert opinions solely on statements that the Defendant made to them (no research into her background, mental health history or diagnosis of any condition).

http://www.wftv.com/video/27525949/index.html
Kathi is incorrect in this video report when she says the Defense experts have NOT examined the Defendant...they HAVE examined her.

Kathi is confusing Ashton's statements in the Motion in Limine with the Motion for Examination by Mental Health Expert (which was filed first)

- 04/12/2011 Motion In Limine as to Testimony of Mental Health Experts
http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/casey-mental-health-0412.pdf
4. The reports indicate that the opinions of the experts are based entirely upon statements made to them by the Defendant. .[implied - when they examined her]


- 04/08/2011 Motion for Examination by Mental Health Expert
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/75720807/20110408-SA-Motion-for-Exam-by-Mental-Health-Expert
2. "The reports of those experts, and their partial depositions, reveal that their opinions will be based upon their examination of the Defendant.

Exactly. Plus, JB wants to have the doctors take the stand and answer hypothetical questions about a hypothetical patient if the court decides to allow the state to examine her. JB does not want KC examined. Prob the smartest thing the defense has done to date.

 

[Tulessa]

I haven't read any of the posts in the thread so I'm just answering the title of the thread.

But I suspect that Casey told these "doctors" that GA is the one who killed Caylee and she knew about it and she was terrified and that's why she acted the way she did for those 31 days. And I think JB has told GA to stay out of the courtroom for the hearings and such in an attempt to make this story stick a little more.

We've all seen the bus that Casey has been driving straight for her father. And Casey is grinning ear to ear as she's doing it.

Um can we spell T-R-A-I-N ?

 

[mydailyopinions]

Casey told the doctors the following:

"My whole life has been taken from me" :boohoo:

"No one will let me speak":boohoo:

"I don't have anything to go off of":boohoo:

"Everything I have told them has been misconstrued":boohoo:

See I didn't lie about everything, I told them she was close!

SILVER FORD FOCUS!:floorlaugh:

 

[Baznme]

I call BS on the notion that she couldn't face her parents. This is the same person who wouldn't dare leave Caylee with them and tortured them by withholding them seeing Caylee whenever she got ticked off. Oh how carefree she would have been to skip back into the home without Caylee and say "Caylee who"!

I don't think she was afraid of her parents one bit. I assume she wanted to stay away and had NO intention of ever going back -- that is until Cindy tracked her down. My gut tells me she planned on living the "Good Life" for a very long time. I'm kinda suprised she didn't skip town long before Cindy could ever catch up with her.

MOO

Mel

ITA

Accident? Afraid of her parents? Uh-uh..not buying it at all. The computer searches for how to make chloroform and neck breaking don't indicate it was an accident. Being afraid of her parents? How does the theft of all that money right down to her grandfather's nursing home funds indicate that? She lived there for free, and when they got fed up with her, she left yet she sneaked BACK into the house while they weren't there, stealing gas, stealing food and CONTINUED to use their computer - sneaking back out of the house to do her pole partying and to stay with whoever had a bed. Beyond the one video we know of Caylee and her crying over it as per TL, she didn't seem to have a care in the world about any accident or Caylee or fear of her parents.

 

[krisskross]

Im gonna go with Caylee was stolen from the car or the mall. She couldn't bear to tell Cindy, she'd been so negligent or that she didn't have a nanny for two years. :floorlaugh: .

I reserve the right to change my mind after Friday's hearing. :crazy:

 

[MaryAnn]

I can't even imagine what she told them! Her Father and Brother molested her. Her Mother treated her horribly and expected her to actually get a job and not be able to spend all her quality time with Caylee. I'm sure everything out of her mouth was something twisted and made to make ICA the victim.

 

[Tulessa]

HHJP want to borrow my :HHJP: ?

http://www.wesh.com/r/27548107/detail.html

 

[Tulessa]

I sure wouldn't want to be in JB's shoes come tomorrow. I'm beginning to wonder if they will have enough time to discuss all that is developing?
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/new...ithdraws-in-Casey-Anthony-trial?cmpid=twitter

 

[ZsaZsa]

The last thing anyone would believe about ICA is that she fears CA or GA.
We have heard many times how she treats them both with contempt, not something you do if you fear that person.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Courtesy of a post on Hinky Meter...

Definition of PTSD per Casey = Party Time Snothead's Dead.

 

[strach304]

I call BS on the notion that she couldn't face her parents. This is the same person who wouldn't dare leave Caylee with them and tortured them by withholding them seeing Caylee whenever she got ticked off. Oh how carefree she would have been to skip back into the home without Caylee and say "Caylee who"!

I don't think she was afraid of her parents one bit. I assume she wanted to stay away and had NO intention of ever going back -- that is until Cindy tracked her down. My gut tells me she planned on living the "Good Life" for a very long time. I'm kinda suprised she didn't skip town long before Cindy could ever catch up with her.

MOO

Mel

I'm sure she would have taken off but she had no where to go. I don't think the jury will buy the fear of her parents as a reason any more than we do. We have seen how she treated her parents and it's all coming in as evidence. While the DT trys to paint ICA as a scared young mother the prosecution will be showing the real Casey through phone calls, witness statements and theft from her mother and grandparents.

 

[tasylshari]

I wish I was a little fly on the wall to hear what exactly she told the experts...

Also, would anyone in WS land WANT to be on the jury???

I can't wait until tomorrow - should be exciting to say the least!!!

 

[MaryAnn]

I sure wouldn't want to be in JB's shoes come tomorrow. I'm beginning to wonder if they will have enough time to discuss all that is developing?
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/new...ithdraws-in-Casey-Anthony-trial?cmpid=twitter

Wow, this is good news! I have to admit JB is starting to put up a good fight even though it is dirty!

 

[logicalgirl]

:floorlaugh:
Did you find one?

Still looking - in fact I am thinking of going "abroad" to find one..:ufo:...

 

[Just Jayla]

I remember a doc seeing KC early on, and CA asking KC if she had a chance to talk to the doctor and if she felt safe opening up.

Of course, she said no.

I think the answer is still no-I don't think she told them anything worthwhile, which is why they KNOW she is a sociopath. Maybe she started talking football again...No matter what she told them, we can pretty much bet that it was laced with pretty little lies, since Ms. Anthony and the truth are strangers.

 

[Capri]

I always wondered about the defiant side of ICA. If she wanted to be with TL, why didn't she just walk out of the house and leave Caylee Marie? Were the feelings of rage towards her parents so strong that she would kill her instead of leaving her in the comfort of her own home? If that's the case, then she most definitely has a wack-a-doodle syndrome. If the DT can get the MHE's in, then we might get to the bottom of this. I don't think JA should worry about whether they come in or not (I'm kind of curious as to what her mental health was at the time myself). Any sane jury would still say, I don't care if you felt this way or the other, you still killed your daughter. No matter what the diagnosis is, it doesn't give you a get out of jail free card.

MOO

Mel

BBM. I don't think so, remember what a chameleon and master-manipulator ICA is. She would have been at her finest with a psych giving her his full attention. She could say anything she wanted & I'm sure she did.

 

[Curious Me]

Grandma Shirley P. cut through all the baloney when she said, "Casey hated her mother more than she loved Caylee."

 

[katydid23]

If they go with the accident/coverup defense they need to explain her demeanor during that 31 days. If we give her the benefit of the doubt that she couldn't face her parents, etc. then I want to know how she lived so carefree after the death of her daughter. That imo is where these mental health experts come in at. Her lying, hiding out at Tony's would fall in line with her being afraid of her parents because she couldn't produce Caylee but certainly do not explain her behavior otherwise.

If she was so afraid of them why didn't she run off and start a new life. Instead she stayed in the same town and hung out with the same old friends and was easily found. If she was so terrified she could have disappeared.