What do you make of Terri never speaking to the media?

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Fine post and be well!~ :)

Thanks! Now, if someone could remove the Stephanie Sloop I have to deal with, I & my son would be much better :banghead:

If ya don't know who she is, check out the Ethan Stacy thread, heartbreaking & gut wrenching. Seeing Kyron's pictures reminds me of little Ethan so much. I don't know how anyone could harm these two, especially their own parent or stepparent. Not that we have proof yet that Terri has harmed Kryon.

If I wasn't guilty and that reporter approached me, I probably would have furiously told him to stop bothering me and go look for Kyron and keep his name in the news, not mine. :angel:
 
Respectfully snipped.

Aedrys this is not intended for you, but for everyone. I know most of you have no knowledge or dealings with the legal world, and, I hope your lives can remain that way, most likely they will not.

The BEST thing you can do, now in our age of litigation for a sneeze, is get a lawyer and shut up. Not a word, not even from your lawyer. All should be handled through the Court system, not media, not presenting your side of the story, nothing. Just do as the very BEST lawyer you can find says, and yep, take out a loan to pay the big bucks for that lawyer. Everything is now a law suit, criminal charge, or any other number of legal semantics you can imagine. Your best friend could take legal action because you told them the truth about themselves now days. (Not joking.) A murder case, innocence or guilt, you bet your boots you will stay quiet and have the best lawyer there. No matter what you do, say, or others say you do, did, say, said, will become fodder.

Please everyone, understand silence and a lawyer is a necessity, no matter your position, no matter the severity or simplicity of your case.

Nothing to even do with this case. Sorry it is OT.

Having had relatives with lawsuits and having dealt with lawyers because of a volunteer thing I do, I can say that he who has the most money seems to win.

Also, where dealing with the public, if a person is a "hometown" person, they get a lot more sympathy than an outsider in matters of law type things.

For example, a homeowner wanting a privilege from a zoning board, gets a lot more than an outsider.

Terri would be better off being an insider than an outsider.

Too late now.

If a perp isn't found, she has helped to make herself look like she is guilty.

LE may never find the perp, so she can kiss any normal life goodbye.

Poor planning.

If she is not the one, she better pray they find the person.
 
Terri wasn't talking much before she got the lawyer, was she? (To media, I mean.) TIA
 
Terri wasn't talking much before she got the lawyer, was she? (To media, I mean.) TIA

She was told not to talk to media. Not sure if it came from LE alone or from LE and Tony, Kaine, Desiree.
 
Just my thoughts. I feel that Desiree and Kaine stood by Terri as long as they could. They extended trust and belief that despite what was said that she just maybe maybe could be innocent. For whatever reasons behind closed doors, she closed that door of hope of innocence for them. I trust that whatever that was must of been very difficult for them. Noone wants to believe anyone can harm a beautiful innocent child. Noone wants to feel that this could happen in thier families. How uncomfortable just to think for once minute that the person you intrusted could betray you and your family, cut this deep without remorse!

I feel they felt that wound, they trust what they see and no longer support Terri in her innocence or believe her version of the "truth" as she knew it or told it. I don't think that came about lightly or easily. IMO

Terri could say something, could show something despite what she is told. She could have told the truth even if uncomfortable in the begining of this case. The truth if she is ummmm lets say innocent could have brought quick closure and resolution to this case. Kyron could be home. She chose not to tell the truth about the events of that day. That is why this is happening, not because she is a step mom or because she is a body builder or any other irrelevent purpose. IMOO.

So in my humble opinion. Terri could of stopped this train before it left. She took the bus and went site seeing instead. While the bus stops here....she could of taken the opportunity to say six words.
Kyron come home, I miss you.
The very words innocent strangers and the community as a whole have been echoing for weeks. The words that other family members have been saying, pleading and praying all along.

No Terri doesn't owe me anything, she doesn't have to say or show any emotion to any of us let alone on camera. She doesn't have to prove innocence or convience me of jack, nor do I have to have faith in her innocence either. Jus' saying.
 
Just my thoughts. I feel that Desiree and Kaine stood by Terri as long as they could. They extended trust and belief that despite what was said that she just maybe maybe could be innocent. For whatever reasons behind closed doors, she closed that door of hope of innocence for them. I trust that whatever that was must of been very difficult for them. Noone wants to believe anyone can harm a beautiful innocent child. Noone wants to feel that this could happen in thier families. How uncomfortable just to think for once minute that the person you intrusted could betray you and your family, cut this deep without remorse!

I feel they felt that wound, they trust what they see and no longer support Terri in her innocence or believe her version of the "truth" as she knew it or told it. I don't think that came about lightly or easily. IMO

Terri could say something, could show something despite what she is told. She could have told the truth even if uncomfortable in the begining of this case. The truth if she is ummmm lets say innocent could have brought quick closure and resolution to this case. Kyron could be home. She chose not to tell the truth about the events of that day. That is why this is happening, not because she is a step mom or because she is a body builder or any other irrelevent purpose. IMOO.

So in my humble opinion. Terri could of stopped this train before it left. She took the bus and went site seeing instead. While the bus stops here....she could of taken the opportunity to say six words.
Kyron come home, I miss you.
The very words innocent strangers and the community as a whole have been echoing for weeks. The words that other family members have been saying, pleading and praying all along.

No Terri doesn't owe me anything, she doesn't have to say or show any emotion to any of us let alone on camera. She doesn't have to prove innocence or convience me of jack, nor do I have to have faith in her innocence either. Jus' saying.

ITA and thought your post warranted more than the click of a Thanks button.

Amen Angel ;}
 
Just my thoughts. I feel that Desiree and Kaine stood by Terri as long as they could. They extended trust and belief that despite what was said that she just maybe maybe could be innocent. For whatever reasons behind closed doors, she closed that door of hope of innocence for them. I trust that whatever that was must of been very difficult for them. Noone wants to believe anyone can harm a beautiful innocent child. Noone wants to feel that this could happen in thier families. How uncomfortable just to think for once minute that the person you intrusted could betray you and your family, cut this deep without remorse!

I feel they felt that wound, they trust what they see and no longer support Terri in her innocence or believe her version of the "truth" as she knew it or told it. I don't think that came about lightly or easily. IMO

Terri could say something, could show something despite what she is told. She could have told the truth even if uncomfortable in the begining of this case. The truth if she is ummmm lets say innocent could have brought quick closure and resolution to this case. Kyron could be home. She chose not to tell the truth about the events of that day. That is why this is happening, not because she is a step mom or because she is a body builder or any other irrelevent purpose. IMOO.

So in my humble opinion. Terri could of stopped this train before it left. She took the bus and went site seeing instead. While the bus stops here....she could of taken the opportunity to say six words.
Kyron come home, I miss you.
The very words innocent strangers and the community as a whole have been echoing for weeks. The words that other family members have been saying, pleading and praying all along.

No Terri doesn't owe me anything, she doesn't have to say or show any emotion to any of us let alone on camera. She doesn't have to prove innocence or convience me of jack, nor do I have to have faith in her innocence either. Jus' saying.

Great post ! My feelings exactly. KYRON is the human being we are concerned about. His family love him & so do most of USA. People like Terri have no honest feelings for anyone ,a parent,a child or a human being. It's not about you Terri. WE all want to have Kyron home ! Pretend you have blood instead of ice in your veins, you cared for him many years . Don't you have some feeling for God's little children? Bring him home.:angel:
 
wHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE GIANT JOWLS tERRI WAS SPORTING AT PRESSERS # 1 AND #2? iN PARKING GARAGE VIDEO, JOWLS ARE GONE. HOW DID SHE GET RID OF THEM, COS THEY WERE PRETTY PROMINENT.
'oops caps locks so sorry


I would not have brought this up without your post, but I thank you for providing the opportunity. I noticed other discussions about Desiree's hair and whether or not she'd had a perm and thought that it really didn't matter. If memory serves, Desiree looked completely distressed in the initial press conference, so if she used a little makeup and took some time with her hair in more recent TV appearances, I can be forgiving.

That said, I've now seen the parking garage "attempted interview" with TMH several times, and I'm convinced that she has had Botox and/or fillers for those marionette lines that were prominent in those initial pressers. Weight loss would have caused those jowls to become even more pronounced, not less. I've got almost 20 years on Terri, so I know all about those lines ;)

It's none of our business what Terri does with her time or money, but having body/facial enhancement would not be at the top of my list if my step-son were missing. I got a really bad vibe when I watched that video; I kept thinking that TMH was saying, "Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up." jmo
 
It surprizes me that people are surprized by this, actually. Why make any sort of a statement when 90% of those watching believe she is guilty? I wouldn't go to a church and lecture on the pros of atheism.

MOO
 
Everyday I post an answer to this question...

And, everyday my link is deleted.

Why?

When you "preview" or publish your post does part of the link appear in asterisks? If so, that means it's a blocked source.
 
I would not have brought this up without your post, but I thank you for providing the opportunity. I noticed other discussions about Desiree's hair and whether or not she'd had a perm and thought that it really didn't matter. If memory serves, Desiree looked completely distressed in the initial press conference, so if she used a little makeup and took some time with her hair in more recent TV appearances, I can be forgiving.

That said, I've now seen the parking garage "attempted interview" with TMH several times, and I'm convinced that she has had Botox and/or fillers for those marionette lines that were prominent in those initial pressers. Weight loss would have caused those jowls to become even more pronounced, not less. I've got almost 20 years on Terri, so I know all about those lines ;)

It's none of our business what Terri does with her time or money, but having body/facial enhancement would not be at the top of my list if my step-son were missing. I got a really bad vibe when I watched that video; I kept thinking that TMH was saying, "Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up." jmo

I would guess that TH has the jowls and double chin because she's gained body fat weight. Compare what she looks like in the garage photo to what she looks like in the photo on the KATU article:

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98176764.html

She has a much slimmer face with a newborn baby girl then she does now 19 months later. (The photo is the one from a recent issue of people magazine. KATU blurs out the facial features of the baby as well as TH's older son)

Since hair is a topic, I do think it's interesting that DY comments in the WW article about how TH talked about her hair coloring job gone wrong even though Kyron was missing (link to WW article and audioclip below):

http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/10/kyrons-parents-describe-web-of-deception-from-stepmom/
 
Your post reminded me of Dr. Fessel's post on thread #1 which is no longer available so I'm not able to bring it forward right now. But it made me just about shower my laptop with soda when I read it last evening......

He stated that it was too bad that the reporter and cameraman didn't jump into the elevator with TH and the blonde at the last minute! LOL

Now that would have been hilarious and so unbelievably uncomfortable for TH! Talk about "must see tv!"

ETA: Dr. Fessel I am quoting you from memory and I hope you do not mind. (I nominate that post as yesterday's "post of the day"!)


Dr Fessel is a he? Speaking of the elevator, that blonde lady kept saying they were on private property and needed to leave. I thought it was just a parking garage they were in? :waitasec:
 
Dr Fessel is a he? Speaking of the elevator, that blonde lady kept saying they were on private property and needed to leave. I thought it was just a parking garage they were in? :waitasec:

BBM

Judging by his sexy portrait on his park bench, I'd say yes.
 
BBM

Judging by his sexy portrait on his park bench, I'd say yes.


LOL! See, I noticed that avatars vary around here and I honestly could not tell you if the picture in an avatar was that actual poster, their child, a missing person/missing child and so on. With Dr Fessel, I thought it was some random online picture the poster found and decided to use.
 
LOL! See, I noticed that avatars vary around here and I honestly could not tell you if the picture in an avatar was that actual poster, their child, a missing person/missing child and so on. With Dr Fessel, I thought it was some random online picture the poster found and decided to use.

I am dearly hoping that is not a real pic of Dr F.

Otherwise, I may seriously have to reconsider the crush I have on him.
 
Dr Fessel is a he? Speaking of the elevator, that blonde lady kept saying they were on private property and needed to leave. I thought it was just a parking garage they were in? :waitasec:

They were in the underground parking lot of the Pacwest Building. It is a 500,000+ sq ft office tower in downtown Portland. Technically, it is private property because it is not publicly owned. But it is open to the public. So, I guess he could be asked to leave by a person in authority, but you notice when she gave the beseeching look and call out to the security guard, no security guard came to help. Maybe the reporter gave him a $20 to stay firmly seated and play deaf.
 
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He certainly presents a compelling case not to talk to the police, innocent or ilty.

I would have liked to seen the other side of it. The police officer present was given the floor to present the opposing side, but the recording was cut off at that point, so I didn't get to compare both options. I only got half the argument, so I am unable to fully evaluate if it's better or not to talk to the police, especially if I am innocent.

I'm sorry. The Part Two video, the part with Officer Bruch, was linked right there from the first part:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE&feature=related[/ame]

Basically, Officer Bruch agreed. He gave many, many examples of the techniques police can use to elicit the appearance of guilt.

His part is well worth watching as well. I simply assumed (silly me) that anyone interested in the second part would click on the link plainly labelled as "Part Two."

He gave two cases in which one man was mentally handicapped and admitted to a crime and another in which a man was insane and was convicted of a crime he didn't do, but in all the other cases I remember him presenting, the people were guilty.

KH and DY have talked to both the police and the press, as has TH. TH is the one who has appeared to lie. To me, the cell pings are the most glaring of the discrepancies in her story and do not bode well for her imo, especially since she continues to deny that she was on Sauvie that day.

The cell phone pings are suggestive to me but not enough to convict. There has been much discussion of the technology in this forum and many examples given from the personal experience of various posters where their cell phones caught towers many miles away from their own location.

I know that when I am in a particular spot on my property, if I make a cell call it shows my location as originating from a town over 30 miles away.

How can this be? I have a big grain bin on the property and when I am in a certain position relative to the grain bin, it blocks the nearest cell tower and apparently amplifies the cell tower of the next town (this is according to my cell provider).

One link posted in the cell phone thread (which I cannot call to mind right now; I hope the original poster will see this and re-post) had a list of the variables involved in cell phone ping locating. It included stuff like terrain (hilly or mountainous terrain can be less accurate than flat terrain), which towers are in service, how heavy the load on the various towers is, etc.

My best guess is that cell phone pings could be used to indicate a location but probably are not enough to take to court as the sole evidence of location without any corroborating evidence.

So, someone stole her cell phone for a couple of hours or so and drove it around on Sauvie to frame her? Where did the pings have her located at 8:20 am? How 'bout 2 pm when she was back home? Her defense cannot say, "technology was correct when it showed her at the school and at home, but it was wrong when it shows she was on Sauvie." I don't know of the other phone ping locations at 8:20 and 2 pm, but I'm guessing LE knows.

Sure they could. My cell phone bill is sometimes accurate and sometimes inaccurate, depending on where I am standing on my five acre property. If the terrain and towers around her house vary in any way from the terrain and towers around the school and/or around Sauvie Island, there's room to question.

Is she innocent or guilty? She knows. Should she have talked to the police or the press? She can't unring the bell. Just because a criminal defense attorney might have told her "under no circumstances, guilty or innocent, talk to the police" doesn't make her innocent. OTOH, doesn't make her guilty either, but she sure is looking guilty to me.

If KH and DY hadn't come forward to speak to the press and the police, I would have thought that they were all in it together somehow. It would look to me like they had something to hide imo.

So, KH and DY talked even more than KH did, so why does KH look so guilty but the other two do not?

I think one of those three does look much guiltier than the other two. However, I haven't read anything so far that would lead me to a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt.

I do know that investigative tunnel vision is a known problem. I believe that if anyone's life were put under the microscope, they could look really, really guilty. I know that I cannot vote someone guilty just because they peg my hinky meter (a good thing because I bet I peg plenty of people's hinky meter).

Finally, back to my original point: TMH has nothing to gain from talking at this point. Her lawyer has no doubt advised her not to make any comments at all and she would do well to heed that advice.
 
I doubt it. (Meaning, I do not believe he is second-guessing Terri's involvement in Kyron's disappearance nor her attempt to have him murdered). He is in shock; it is a very symbolic gesture to remove your wedding ring. He has probably taken it off, put it back on. For all we know it's on because he wants Terri to see that and respond to it.

Or heck, for all we know, he can't remove it and hasn't had time to go to a jeweller to get it removed.

My ex-husband couldn't remove his wedding ring and had to do just that when he left me. He'd broken that finger while wearing the ring a few years before; by the time he realised it wasn't just jammed and he should get that ring off, it wasn't removable.
 

I also still disagree about what ALL attorneys would advise their clients to do. For her to express nothing expressed everything.

Too bad. Were she even remotely close to appearing and being thought to be innocent, then I would be looking at her differently.


SBM

A good criminal defence lawyer is always thinking ahead: "what if this goes to trial?" Every decision they make, every piece of advice they give their client must be positioned in relation to that one possibility.

What the public thinks of TMH will not matter if they go to court. In fact, he will attempt to take steps to change venue if it appears the jury pool is widely tainted.

However, anything TMH says in public on videotape could well be used to incriminate her or impeach her credibility inside the courtroom.

Say worst comes to worst: TMH is charged with murder one in Kyron's death and convicted. In the penalty phase of the trial, if she ever made a public statement to the effect of "please look for Kyron" or "I love my stepson, I'm devastated, please help look for him" the prosecutor will play it mercilessly for the jury to illustrate something along the lines of "the depths of her depravity."

TMH's lawyer must consider this possibility. And so it is much better for her not to say a word to the media. Not even "no comment."

Her lawyer cannot, under any circumstances, be concerned about what Joe and Jane Public think. That would constitute a conflict of interest. He is TMH's lawyer and his job is to protect her interests, not anyone else's feelings.

Our system of justice is far from perfect but it is, I believe, among the best ones humans have come up with so far. A vigourous defence is what keeps everyone's rights intact.
 
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