What do you speculate that Kaine meant by this?

  • #21
I think he was simply trying to state that no one else was speaking on any of their behalfs. Seems he wouldn't even speak on Terri's behalf as she was not present. If they (the family) (or individually) had something to say they would say it, not anyone else.
That's how I took what he had to say.
 
  • #22
He doesn't answer the question. He is asked did Terri take two polygraphs he answers by talking about friends making unauthorized statements to the media. Conclusion: she took two polygraphs. Inference: it's bad news.
 
  • #23
IMO...I think KH is stating that unless you hear it from one of "us"...it may or may not be so.

If I were KH in this kind of situation (God Forbid!), I would be royally irritated if anyone spoke for anyone involved in this investigation of my missing child which could negatively impact the case.

Also, if I were Finster and I was officially speaking on TH's behalf...you better believe I'd have that in writing and end my interview with something to that effect.

Note this was after the first article was published on Friday, June 18 with Finster‘s earlier comments.

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Sunday, June 20, 2010

Reporter: "Jaymie Finster just spoke with her friend Terri Horman Saturday to make sure she was ok with Finster speaker out."

Finster: “…and she said yes, with the internet stuff going on it’s just very damaging, and I know who she is, and I know that she’s a good person, and I just wanted to speak out in regards to her character and to support her in that way.”

http://www.katu.com/news/local/96769584.html?tab=video

Sunday, June 20, 2010
PORTLAND, Ore. – A friend of Kyron's stepmother spoke out Sunday, talking about Terri Horman and the frustration she is feeling as the search for her missing stepson moves through day 17.

In an interview for "Good Morning America" filmed at KATU's Portland studio, Jaymie Finster said Terri Horman is a bit tired, wants Kyron home and is frustrated over the investigation now pointing towards her. She said Horman signed off on this interview because some of the public's accusations and speculation on the Internet has been so damaging.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/96769584.html
 
 
  • #24
IMO, so far LE has not shared with Kaine or Desiree any details of what Terri has told them or any inconsistencies there may be. In the fulness of time, that will change imo. Then, it will be very interesting to observe the family relationships and how they may change.
 
  • #25
I took this from the inerview thread with Kyrons parents as I am curious what others think about this.
originally posted by BEANE:
At about 3:00 in the raw video, the reporter asks if it's true Terri took 2 polygraphs.

Kaine: (big sigh continued through the first few stumbled words) um... (pause) my, I, based on where we're at with the case, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna comment on that. I know she was speaking on behalf of Terri um, and that's actually something that we're trying to make sure is clear in our communications outward is when, we're gonna be, our family is the only group of individuals that will be speaking on our behalf. We fully expect that other people will come out with things to say, potentially defend friends or some of our family members. We expect that but we want to make it pretty clear that we're the ones speaking on our own behalf. No one else is speaking on our behalf.

What is Kaine saying here? Is he excluding Terri from "the family" or is he saying that Terri did not authories the friend to speak. I am so confused by this statement it half way sound to me like they are not as Unified as they want us to beleive. IMO... JMO... would like to know what others think, but please be polite and state IMO as I dont want this to be a bashing thread or pointing fingers just your opinion about this statement.

IMO, it shows just how unified the four parents are. I take it to mean exactly what he says... NO one speaks on their behalf but themselves.
 
  • #26
I really think JF was trying to help and TM wanted that help but when it came off as bad as it did now the family wants to distance themselves from that "help". As far as the family speaking for themselves, does that include TM's father or mother? Or is it just the bio family? I really can't see TM speaking at all at this point.

By TM, I assume you mean Terri Horman. So it should be TH, not TM. Or at least add the H... TMH.
When I see the initials TM, I always think of Tim Miller.

eta: Thanks, no harm intended. Just clarifying.
 
  • #27
Somewhat on topic:
Kaine said in the same interview that he can't necessarily comment on how Terri is coping. Why do you think that was? Because he didn't want to speak on behalf of Terri? Terri said not to talk about her? LE said not to talk about Terri? He doesn't know how Terri is coping? He knows but it's not something that can be discussed on national television?

Hopefully Terri gets lots of family support off the record because this interview left some questions open as to what her own husband thinks about her (IMO) and it's rather sad if she didn't do anything.

Off topic: There appears to be some variation as to how the stepmother is referred to. TH, TM or TMH. Here's one article that calls her Terri Moulton.

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Second-grade-student-missing-from-Skyline-Elementary-95670454.html
 
  • #28
IMO, it shows just how unified the four parents are. I take it to mean exactly what he says... NO one speaks on their behalf but themselves.

I don't think that can possibly be the case. If you believe that TH authorized JF to speak (which I do since that point was specifically made by her in both of the snippets above), then either Kaine didn't know TH had done that (not unified), or he knew/knows and disagreed with the decision(also not unified) Otherwise he wouldn't have said that no one is speaking for them.
 
  • #29
I think Kaine was specifically coached to answer in this way. Any other answer is problematic, and this way he doesn't make things worse but allows the interview to take place.
 
  • #30
Somewhat OT but might be of interest in finding out how unified the family is:

http://www.koinlocal6.com/mostpopul...pass-out-reminder/iYz0pAeluEGRdshA52iNlg.cspx

Three quotes:
Kaine Horman and Desiree Young are doing anything they can to bring Kyron home.

Michael can see the pain on the faces of Desiree and Kane. The two say they're not prepared for whatever the outcome may be.

Michael got a glimpse of a few clips from the interview with Desiree and Kaine.
"What I saw were two people that miss their boy and are doing their best to remain strong," said Michael.

It might mean something or it might mean nothing but the article does fail to mention Terri and what she's doing to bring Kyron home very conspicuously, IMO, which might tie into what DY and KH said about feeling it was important to come together as the natural parents of Kyron.
 
  • #31
IMO, it shows just how unified the four parents are. I take it to mean exactly what he says... NO one speaks on their behalf but themselves.

I think it's just the opposite. From what I can gather from the interviews and how they answered, body language, the lack of photos released with TH in them...this makes me really start to see a divide in the family. I know the lack of her being in the photos has been discussed at length and some thought it was just a matter of TH always being the photographer. I didn't see it that way at all. You would think if they were "unified" there would be at least a few with all of them. I see KH and DY as a team but not TH. JMO
 
  • #32
What I think is that it's quite clear to Kaine, Desiree, everyone else including Terri herself, that she has not been cleared in this case. Kaine and Desiree were given clear instructions about what they couldn't say. I have a feeling that suspicions were raised against Terri from the very beginning. I imagine that one or all of the other parents were suspect of her. Now that she is being fingered and grilled by the LE, perhaps their suspicions are even increasing. Of course, they are not about to say this, but I think Desiree & Kaine were both able to say with all honesty that Terri is cooperating. I think she IS cooperating, as far as being questioned, and letting them conduct searches, etc.

I thought it was astonishing that Kaine said, during one interview that he "could not speak for Terri's reaction." To me, that's even more amazing than what he's dancing around in your quote.

What I think this quote means though is that Kaine and Terri are not seeing eye to eye about who to talk to and how much to share. I think she is frantically trying to defend herself. She is sharing information with her father and with friends and maybe even requesting that they speak to the media…in spite of having been asked that SHE not speak to the media. Well…that may be going to far. I don't know exactly what's going on, but I don't think the relationship with Kaine & Terri is very rosy at the moment. I kind of wonder if things are very rocky for a variety of reasons. Even when asked do you think LE suspects Terri, the answer is "We can't talk about anything related to the investigation." Can you imagine how your relationship with your spouse would begin to disintegrate if you thought he'd done something dreadful to one of your children?

I just think they don't know what to do. That's also probably why they didn't speak out at the beginning. I'm guessing they were fighting amongst themselves.

Just my opinion, and speculations.

That was a very well written post and I agree 100%
 
  • #33
Right now it appears ---meaning that the media is making it look like-- Kaine and Desiree are very involved in finding their son, and Terri has been physically or emotionally segregated from the family and is not involved in the investigation other than cooperating with LE during questioning.

Kaine's answer to the polygraph question was not only sketchy (meaning it did not make Terri look good), but it distanced himself from her, and he in fact did not answer the question, and THAT is a bad sign. Dodging questions is never good. I'm not saying Kaine should be suspected, or is behaving badly per say---I'm saying that he knows something about the investigation---related to Terri, and it doesn't look good.

Why didn't he say, something like, :
"Yes, Terri has been polygraphed and questioned as well because she was the last person to see Kyron. We support LE in this process because they are doing their job to rule out any circumstances/people. We support Terri as well, as she is equally as devasted over Kyron's disappearance and is doing everything she can to help LE."

He didn't because MAYBE he has a reason to loose faith in Terri.

Everyone is so secretive at this point so it's still difficult to say what the heck is going on. No new breaks = not good news for Kyron :(
 
  • #34
Kyron's step-dad is a is a homicide detective, perhaps this fact makes everyone nervous. When you have family and friends speaking out and you can't control what is being said, you're sort of in a bind. Maybe when this happens, Kaine feels he is letting LE and step-dad down and hindering the case. Maybe he doesn't know how to tell the media that! just my opinion and all that stuff moo mho
 

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