What do you think about the West Memphis Three?

[herb4]

I don't know, but what does it matter?

Edited: Honest question, not intended to be snarky.

so, would you say that 15+ years on death row aided or hurt Damien's mental health? Assuming it's the latter, it's odd to me that he's been out and free for over a decade now and hasn't lashed out, hurt anyone nor committed any crimes at all that we know of. That's a remarkable psychological turnaround from a severely troubled teenager that allegedly culminated in committing a triple homicide child murder and sat on death row for that long, isn't it?

Not to mention the other two convicted.

None of these three have gotten into any trouble since their release except for a DUI by Jessie I think. I would personally expect a deranged, psychotic teenage killer of young kids in a Satanic Blood Orgy would only get worse during max security incarceration in Arkansas. Yet here we are.

 

[DHT1339]

so, would you say that 15+ years on death row aided or hurt Damien's mental health? Assuming it's the latter, it's odd to me that he's been out and free for over a decade now and hasn't lashed out, hurt anyone nor committed any crimes at all that we know of. That's a remarkable psychological turnaround from a severely troubled teenager that allegedly culminated in committing a triple homicide child murder and sat on death row for that long, isn't it?

Not to mention the other two convicted.

None of these three have gotten into any trouble since their release except for a DUI by Jessie I think. I would personally expect a deranged, psychotic teenage killer of young kids in a Satanic Blood Orgy would only get worse during max security incarceration in Arkansas. Yet here we are.

it wasn't even a DUI. he was arrested for driving without a license and insurance

 

[DeChino]

Do you think they are guilty or innocent?

Innocent has been my opinion for several years

 

[kukrao]

I think they're innocent. All of the evidence is circumstantial. They have some questionable qualities, but what teenagers don't. I think that the community had a beeline focus on Damien because of his hobbies and interests. To say these killings were rituals I feel is speculation. And that speculation didn't even occur to many until after they had their sights on Damien. IMO they didn't put in effort to find any other suspect because they already had their minds made up. Yes, they went to the fast food restaurant, but that was basically the end of looking into that strange man.





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I agree—the case against the West Memphis Three always seemed shaky. The focus on Damien's interests feels like moral panic rather than real evidence. A lot of the case relied on stereotypes and circumstantial connections. The lack of deeper investigation into other leads, like the man at the restaurant, is frustrating. It’s hard not to feel they were unfairly targeted.

 

[Gigiky]

Not guilty

 

[Gigiky]

It appears there is movement in this case. If what I have read is fact. Then we are currently waiting on DNA testing results? Has anyone else read anything about this? JMO

 

[snowleopard]

scott erskine maybe? he murdered two boys in a somewhat similar fashion in san diego a couple months before the WM killings

i know he had ties to FL, but not sure why he'd be in WM

I believe at the start of his book, he says he believes the killer is alive. Erskine died a while ago.....

 

[snarast]

There is no solid evidence for their guilt. None.

It seems likely to me they were killed in a room that was easy to rinse. A bathroom or maybe a truck. Or a pool.

What do the profilers say?

 

[dotr]

May 5, 2025
32 years have passed since three teens were accused of killing three 8-year-old boys.
May 5, 2025 rbbm

West Memphis Three continue 32 year fight to prove innocence

Damien Echols, Jessie Misskelley and Jason Baldwin continue their fight for justice 32 years after they were arrested for the deaths of three boys in West Memphis.

www.thv11.com

''In 2021, a potential break in the case came in the form of new evidence being uncovered. It centered around a box that attorneys were told had been destroyed in a fire. The box contained the shoelaces used to tie up the boys on May 5.
The attorney team representing Echols continued the legal battle to have his name cleared—this time with new evidence.
In 2022, a petition was filed to retest evidence. That petition would go through a two-year process, being denied by lower courts before finally seeing the Arkansas Supreme Court who ruled in favor of Echols.
That was a little over a year ago, and according to Echols, the evidence remains untested. ''

 

[herb4]

There is no solid evidence for their guilt. None.

It seems likely to me they were killed in a room that was easy to rinse. A bathroom or maybe a truck. Or a pool.

What do the profilers say?

FBI profiler John Douglas weighed in on it a while back. An adult who knew the victims and was trusted by them, had a history of violence and knew the area, among other things. I'm sure you can find it. "Not three satan inspired teenagers" essentially. He also thinks it was the murder site but I'm of the belief that the victims were transported and dumped there from a short distance away and that the bindings were used to ease transport.

 

[snarast]

FBI profiler John Douglas weighed in on it a while back. An adult who knew the victims and was trusted by them, had a history of violence and knew the area, among other things. I'm sure you can find it. "Not three satan inspired teenagers" essentially. He also thinks it was the murder site but I'm of the belief that the victims were transported and dumped there from a short distance away and that the bindings were used to ease transport.

I agree with you. I definitely think they were killed elsewhere.

 

[herb4]

I believe there were two trips made from a crime scene very nearby, which helps explain the slightly different knots used and also the difference in proximity of the bodies (one being a bit further away from the other two). Likely, the perp wanted to shift attention away from the kill site since there was probably incriminating evidence there, so he improvised and cut the shoelaces (pocket knife maybe?) in order to make them easier to carry (similar to what butchers do with animals). Perp may have had some experience working in a butcher shop or was maybe a hunter.

There are wounds on the victims that are "industrial" in nature to me. Meaning some of them weren't inflicted by animals or sticks and whatnot. One "road rash" type injury suggests to me that the victim was dragged across rough concrete or something. There's a "manhole theory" out there that makes some sense to me. The cement finishing on these could produce the type of wound I'm referencing and one of them was rather close by.

Strangely, when the supporter who came up with the theory was actively posting about it and providing on site photos, SOMEONE refinished the cement on one of those very manholes. That's a hell of a coincidence.

 

[Jovial]

I would love to provide my opinion, but I realize that this case was years ago. If I ask a question, I would rather not get a sarcastic response from other members. I am new to this case and am catching up.

 

[Soulmagent]

I would love to provide my opinion, but I realize that this case was years ago. If I ask a question, I would rather not get a sarcastic response from other members. I am new to this case and am catching up.

Some responses could seem that way, some of us have issues with tone and verbiage .
We try not to personalize . We could be talking to autistic people ,or people who aren't like us. Its okay.

 

[Soulmagent]

This is one of the most disturbing cases I have ever seen , to me.
It has always just made me feel a different way than other horrible cases.
When I travel I try not to stop anywhere near Shelby County , So I hit up the dollar general in West Memphis . It always makes me sad.
Once I stopped at a locol playground so my son could play and Chruch buses with kids pulled up , we had a great time , but it did feel like kinda creepy.

 

[snarast]

Jason and Damien would have to be first class liars to be guilty from what I’ve seen. Misskelley is too vacant to read. He’s a real tabula rasa that one. They keep saying he’s challenged - I’m not so sure. My guess is that he’s been abused his whole life and has a blank facade as armor.

I lean toward someone settling a drug debt with the obviously rather juiced Byers family, or possibly the Hobbses. Or that a drugged up person realized one of the kids could identify him after he assaulted them.

Also - Seems likely it’s someone who has seen combat - considering those sticks in the mud.

Just one person? If they trusted him, he could simply have played picaboo with them and smashed their heads in one by one without the remaining boys’ knowledge and then zeroed in on the main target, which seems to have been Christopher Byers.

The latter scenario sounds like slapstick though.

IMHOO

 

[Swirlz]

It was Stevie Branch's stepdad, Terry Hobbs. DNA in a hair found in one of the shoelaces used to tie up the boys, matched the DNA of Hobbs. Stevie's younger half sister has come forward as an adult with the claim Hobbs sexually abused her. Another member of the family has said Stevie made statements suggesting sexual abuse of himself by Hobbs. Michael Moore's father said Michael spent a lot of time at Stevie's house. There were signs of physical abuse (deep lacerations from a belt whipping) on Christopher Byers body at autopsy. Christopher's stepdad, Mark Byers, admitted to whipping Christopher earlier that day. The three boys were seen riding their bikes toward the woods that evening, past the time they were supposed to have gone home. Someone called out something like, "Go home, you're going to get in trouble!' and Christopher responded with , "I don't have to listen to you!" and the three of them kept peddling.

I think the most likely scenario is that all 3 boys were attempting to run away together, Stevie to escape abuse by Hobbs and Christopher to escape abuse by Mark Byers. It's also possible something happened to Michael Moore at Hobbs' house that he was running from. I think Hobbs followed them into the woods and the rest is history.