What happened to Rebecca Zahau?

[freespeech]

BBM.

Please explain this comment.

I think any woman that would not go out of her way to answer ALL questions any family member would have is acting suspiciously, IMO.

Perhaps if Jonah had chosen another partner, Nina would not have HAD to ask questions about how her nephew Max would up in the ICU brain dead, IMO.

BBM

Why do you think what happened to Max was Rebecca's fault?

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

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BBM

Why do you think what happened to Max was Rebecca's fault?

Because her story changed several time and then she killed herself.

 

[freespeech]

Because her story changed several time and then she killed herself.

How did her story change and why would it make her kill herself?

 

[screecher]

Because her story changed several time and then she killed herself.

BBM above and below

:what:

Wait a minute here.

Many of your posts state she refused to answer questions.

NOW you're saying her story changed several time

HTH could that be? I mean if Rebecca refused to answered questions...how could she have any story?

 

[FightTheOstrich]

IMO,

The more I read the more I think that RZ was killed and then taken to the courtyard, tied up and then someone upstairs pulled the rope leaving RZ in hanging position. I think what I'm trying to say is that I'm beginning to think that at least 2 people participated in the staging of her death.

 

[justice be served]

IMO,

The more I read the more I think that RZ was killed and then taken to the courtyard, tied up and then someone upstairs pulled the rope leaving RZ in hanging position. I think what I'm trying to say is that I'm beginning to think that at least 2 people participated in the staging of her death.

Yes, when you peel away the layers of the complexities of Rebecca's "suicide", it just was as simple as someone strung her up from below after knocking her out and tying her up. It's really alot of crap that the ruling was suicide. Anyone with a brain does not believe it for a moment.

 

[Jessica2012]

Yes, when you peel away the layers of the complexities of Rebecca's "suicide", it just was as simple as someone strung her up from below after knocking her out and tying her up. It's really alot of crap that the ruling was suicide. Anyone with a brain does not believe it for a moment.

@justice be served, this is my opinion, and I am writing respectfully. I lean more towards suicide because if she were knocked out and hoisted up from below, there would not be an inverted v ligature mark on autopsy. If you have a link to the contrary, I am completely open to learning more from you. This is all my opinion.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

Yes, when you peel away the layers of the complexities of Rebecca's "suicide", it just was as simple as someone strung her up from below after knocking her out and tying her up. It's really alot of crap that the ruling was suicide. Anyone with a brain does not believe it for a moment.

IMO,
Yup, for the longest time I was stuck on the idea of how the murderer got her off the balcony without leaving more "tracks". I have always believed it was murder but my theories are changing a bit. Especially if it is true that the room with the mesaage on the door is the room that his daughter had stayed in. Maybe it changes the meaning of the message and even DS's recent comments. She has stated that she didn't want RZ or members of her family alone with Max, maybe there was more to her request to JS. Maybe minor children were not approved babysitters and some sort of agreement with JS prevents DS from elaborating.

 

[screecher]

@justice be served, this is my opinion, and I am writing respectfully. I lean more towards suicide because if she were knocked out and hoisted up from below, there would not be an inverted v ligature mark on autopsy. If you have a link to the contrary, I am completely open to learning more from you. This is all my opinion.

Provide link to an inverted V ligature mark from ME please.

 

[Salem]

Let's not get carried away with the speculation. Make sure it relates to the documents, LE reports and MSM.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[iSleuth]

IMO,

The more I read the more I think that RZ was killed and then taken to the courtyard, tied up and then someone upstairs pulled the rope leaving RZ in hanging position. I think what I'm trying to say is that I'm beginning to think that at least 2 people participated in the staging of her death.

http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/images/rz8671.jpg

Is that why the knives were upstairs?

 

[Mrs. Holmes]

http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/images/rz8671.jpg

Is that why the knives were upstairs?

The knives were used to cut the rope.... all of the weird stuff.... rope, knives paint....

all done to disguise a rage strangulation and make it look like a hanging....

if RZ was gently hoisted from below... with the t-shirt around her neck... would you find a v mark?

 

[Quester]

Just curious ... given the way the rope was secured to the bed, it looked like it had to have been secured first. If so, how do you imagine RZ could have been hoisted from below? TIA

 

[FightTheOstrich]

The knives were used to cut the rope.... all of the weird stuff.... rope, knives paint....

all done to disguise a rage strangulation and make it look like a hanging....

if RZ was gently hoisted from below... with the t-shirt around her neck... would you find a v mark?

If someone hoisted her after the rope was attached and someone else was upstairs...and if that person only had to give a little tug.....might explain the t-shirt.....might also explain what really happened to the table....

 

[iSleuth]

Just curious ... given the way the rope was secured to the bed, it looked like it had to have been secured first. If so, how do you imagine RZ could have been hoisted from below? TIA

I google searched- using rope as a fulcrum

http://sunshine.chpc.utah.edu/javalabs/java12/machine/act2/lab4.htm

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX48pyWO7Pc"]Rope and Pulley Systems: Segment 5 - What Is a Simple Pulley System?pds.m2ts - YouTube[/ame]

:waitasec:

 

[bourne]

If someone hoisted her after the rope was attached and someone else was upstairs...and if that person only had to give a little tug.....might explain the t-shirt.....might also explain what really happened to the table....

Rebecca suffered a brutal, violent, humiliating death. I cannot see her being gently tugged upward by her murderers. I also think the murder was a matter of expedience and efficiency. If the killers were interrogating and assaulting Rebecca in the balcony room, why would they take the time and the possibility of dropping evidence all over the house to carry Rebecca downstairs only to hoist her back up again? The murderers could simply throw her over the balcony and be done while in the balcony room.

 

[freespeech]

Rebecca suffered a brutal, violent, humiliating death. I cannot see her being gently tugged upward by her murderers. I also think the murder was a matter of expedience and efficiency. If the killers were interrogating and assaulting Rebecca in the balcony room, why would they take the time and the possibility of dropping evidence all over the house to carry Rebecca downstairs only to hoist her back up again? The murderers could simply throw her over the balcony and be done while in the balcony room.

The autopsy findings seem to indicate that she was probably thrown over after she was already dead. That would account for the torn shoulder muscles and deep rope ligature mark. it may also possibly account for why there was no injury to the cervical neck bones after a long drop hanging. At this juncture I'm agreeing that hoisting her up may have been to "gentle" for lack of a better word. Imo, that probably would not explain all the internal damage that was found.

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

Many of you are saying that Rebecca was murdered, without also stating that is is your opinion. The FACT is that she committed suicide. At this point, the case is CLOSED and the California Attorney General has turned down reopening it one. So at this point, it is officially a SUICIDE.

And the ME has stated that Rebecca was ALIVE when she went over the balcony.

 

[screecher]

Many of you are saying that Rebecca was murdered, without also stating that is is your opinion. The FACT is that she committed suicide. At this point, the case is CLOSED and the California Attorney General has turned down reopening it one. So at this point, it is officially a SUICIDE.

And the ME has stated that Rebecca was ALIVE when she went over the balcony.

BBM above and below

No.

The FACT is, SDSO along with Lucas ruled a suicide.

Doing so, doesn't necessarily make it true, Rebecca murdering herself.

The attorney general DID NOT turn it down. She returned it saying it had to go through the proper channels in order for her to look at it. Once it had gone through those channels she was given it and afaik, has NOT turned it down.

Hopes this helps you to understand it better.

 

[freespeech]

Many of you are saying that Rebecca was murdered, without also stating that is is your opinion. The FACT is that she committed suicide. At this point, the case is CLOSED and the California Attorney General has turned down reopening it one. So at this point, it is officially a SUICIDE.

And the ME has stated that Rebecca was ALIVE when she went over the balcony.

Imo, Rebecca was murdered. The 'fact' as you claim is being disputed by Rebecca's family and their lawyer. Many support that. Over 1,600 people signed a petition to have the case reopened because they question the ruling of suicide.

The California Attorney General did not turn down but rerouted the request to be be petitioned through appropriate channels first. That was done and the request has been resubmitted.

We are currently waiting to hear whether the California Attorney General will open a new investigation into the matter.

Also, many people wonder if she was hung while dead or alive. Imo, she was hung after they murdered her. The autopsy report does not show the expected long drop hanging broken neck or decapitation. However since she had torn shoulder muscles and a deep rope ligature mark, that indicated, imo, that she was thrown over the balcony after they murdered her.